[johnbozzz]

Aside from churches, which have already been mentioned, and maybe organizations like the young Republicans. I live in a blue state and finding girls IRL who might eventually become LTR are tough to find.

[Silver_Tube]

Country western bars. Get yourself a pair of cowboy boots, learn to walk in them without looking like an idiot. Protip, nobody respects clean new unscuffed boots, you have to wear them a lot.

republican campaign organizations, particularly now when they are at their most active.
Indie wrestling/mma/rodeo/monster trucks/nascar/associated events. More fun than you might think.
Day game in general. Coffee shop during the morning, they'll be the ones looking like they are actually studying.

These people tend to keep to themselves and don't advertise their movements. You really have to build a network to get in with a good bunch. Lots of hot girls are conservative because they are attracted to traditionally masculine men. You go to a group of them and you'll sometimes find the shy one that the sluts managed to drag out of the house for the evening. Don't overlook the brunettes. I live in the south so it is obviously different out here.

[johnbozzz]

(03-01-2016 07:52 PM)Silver_Tube Wrote:  

These people tend to keep to themselves and don't advertise their movements. You really have to build a network to get in with a good bunch. Lots of hot girls are conservative because they are attracted to traditionally masculine men. You go to a group of them and you'll sometimes find the shy one that the sluts managed to drag out of the house for the evening. Don't overlook the brunettes. I live in the south so it is obviously different out here.

Thanks, this last bit seems true. Sadly, my social connections are limited to those who I know in high school and college, most of whom are great people, but fairly liberal and not RP.
Oh, and your signature is right on the mark!

[Silver_Tube]

My sig is a quote from Donald Trump's 2007 book, "Think Big and Kick Ass"

(copied here for posterity in case the sig changes at a later date)

Quote:

"In primitive times women clung to the strongest males for protection. They did not take any chances with a nobody, low-status male who did not have the means to house them, protect them, and feed them and their offspring. High-status males displayed their prowess through their kick-ass attitudes. They were not afraid to think for themselves and make their own decisions. They did not give a crap about what other people in the tribe thought. That kind of attitude is associated with the kind of men women find attractive. It may not be politically correct to say but who cares. It is common sense and it's true- and always will be."

[The_e_man]

Sorry to derail, but is Trump's book worth a read?
I'm worried that since he is such a big name, that his book will be written mostly by some co-author and it will be distilled and watered down to be easily palatable for the masses.

But if it's a no-nonsense red pill book them I'm willing to order it from Amazon.

[Anabasis to Desta]

I went to college in a blood-red state where most girls were as, if not more slutty than their urban counterparts.

You might argue it's expected from a college campus but even the women off campus were nasty. Married early, divorced at 25 with 2 kids .. then ride the cock-coaster till they hit 40 or so.

My recommendation for top marriage material from experience?

Chicks who work in low-level healthcare professions (Nurses, Dental hygienists, Behavioral health specialists).

They're responsible enough to be wifey material, earn enough that if something happens to you she can take care of your kids, educated enough so you can have a conversation with her ... but not too educated where she feels superior to everyone around her and expects you to be a Neurosurgeon to be worthy of her attention. They tend to come from lower-middle or middle class families and tend to be less entitled and more practical.

Unlike girls in other professions i also noticed they are willing to settle down early. They're also slimmer than your average girl.

Conclusion: As good as a woman can get in the west unless you plan on converting to become a Mormon.

[Silver_Tube]

Well said Mr. Desta, nurses are an excellent choice when you can get them. I work near a hospital and I'm always seeing these groups of hot ass nurses in their little scrubs out getting lunch together. I've tried to talk to them a few times when they are in line nearby, I get smiling and blushes and giggles but not much else. I've never had much luck walking up to a group of them while they are sitting at a table. That's an approach I'd be happy to hear some advice on.

Trump's 2007 book was awesome. He writes like he talks and makes a pretty good case for how winners operate. He had a co author for that book and the other guy chimes in with a passage in each chapter. I think he may write the books himself. He's done a whole series and it feels real because some of them came out before he got crazy famous. He doesn't give super specific advice about getting rich but nothing about his suggestions is sugar coated. I particularly enjoyed his chapter on the importance of seeking revenge. I read the book out of curiosity because I had already read Carson's book and felt like I didn't know anything about Trump aside from the TV. I was more impressed with him than I expected to be.

One of my buddies likes to open his approaches with "do you consider yourself a feminist?" and most of them say no. I think our chances of finding traditional girls isn't as dismal as it sometimes looks.

[TooFineAPoint]

Look for local choirs, and classical music performances. Typically those put on by universities/colleges. Girls who play string instruments are typically attractive.

Go attend symphonies, operas and, if you are in a major city, serious ballets (no bullshit modern stuff, canon only -- if it's in the back of a fucking coffee shop or a loft it will be filled with broken women who have no taste). As a bonus, you get a little culture.

[SudoRoot]

Bookstores and Librarys. Girls may be a Little introvert, but are usually really feminine and intelligent. It's not packed with hot chicks of Course, but you will find a keeper from time to time.

[General Stalin]

Girls that study or go to bookstores are not indicative of being "traditional" - just means they are bookworms. They could be still be shrill feminists cat ladies who are just more on the quiet side.

Any woman that works in care-taking is likely your best bet. Nurses, nannies, personal aides, childcare, etc. Any woman who makes a living off of her feminine qualities.

In a city a hospital, nursing home, daycare, or assisted living center would be your best option I suppose. Not sure what your excuse would be for being at a daycare when you have no child but whatever.

My personal opinion is that trying to find a "traditionally minded conservative woman" in a metropolitan area is almost useless, unless you happen to find a girl that was born there and never left and somehow hasn't been too damaged by city-life.

[johnbozzz]

(03-02-2016 12:35 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Girls that study or go to bookstores are not indicative of being "traditional" - just means they are bookworms. They could be still be shrill feminists cat ladies who are just more on the quiet side.

Any woman that works in care-taking is likely your best bet. Nurses, nannies, personal aides, childcare, etc. Any woman who makes a living off of her feminine qualities.

In a city a hospital, nursing home, daycare, or assisted living center would be your best option I suppose. Not sure what your excuse would be for being at a daycare when you have no child but whatever.

My personal opinion is that trying to find a "traditionally minded conservative woman" in a metropolitan area is almost useless, unless you happen to find a girl that was born there and never left and somehow hasn't been too damaged by city-life.

Thanks. I've been trying to keep my eye out at specialty markets near the vitamin/wellness sections, so far.

[johnbozzz]

(03-01-2016 10:34 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

Chicks who work in low-level healthcare professions (Nurses, Dental hygienists, Behavioral health specialists).

The biggest problem I've had with girls in these fields (I go to the dentist and doctor yearly, so hygienists and nurses), is that they are often married and in their mid-30's to mid-40's, and often tell me about their kids as a point of conversation.

[greekgod]

(03-01-2016 10:34 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

I went to college in a blood-red state where most girls were as, if not more slutty than their urban counterparts.

You might argue it's expected from a college campus but even the women off campus were nasty. Married early, divorced at 25 with 2 kids .. then ride the cock-coaster till they hit 40 or so.

My recommendation for top marriage material from experience?

Chicks who work in low-level healthcare professions (Nurses, Dental hygienists, Behavioral health specialists).

They're responsible enough to be wifey material, earn enough that if something happens to you she can take care of your kids, educated enough so you can have a conversation with her ... but not too educated where she feels superior to everyone around her and expects you to be a Neurosurgeon to be worthy of her attention. They tend to come from lower-middle or middle class families and tend to be less entitled and more practical.

Unlike girls in other professions i also noticed they are willing to settle down early. They're also slimmer than your average girl.

Conclusion: As good as a woman can get in the west unless you plan on converting to become a Mormon.

Yeah, cosign this 500%.

They are orderly, work in a hierarchy, and by definition, strike that self invested yet risk adverse mentality. Nursing has a high floor monetarily yet it isn't a careerist, cunt profession. In other words, they prefer safety over flash.

I've been in and out of hospitals a lot lately because of my bicep surgery. I was walking down the hall and this nurse eye fucked me into next week. Right behind her was a world class surgeon, no joke I recognized this dude from the website, and he had this puzzled ass look on his face, "why is this dude strutting thru the hallways of my hospital and why did my RN just make him light up?"

the RN for my surgeon is a wifey prototype. Great chick.

Also, keep in mind, the better the nurse, the smarter the guy she is working around. Yes, these doctors are mental/academic alphas but because of the sugar coated nature of their business, are out of touch with their masculinity. Slight but notable difference.

Like anything else, its a law of averages, some women who work in medicine are repugnant.

I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that eye test is the #1 sign for quality girls.

[johnbozzz]

(03-02-2016 02:09 PM)greekgod Wrote:  

[quote='Anabasis to Desta' pid='1236246' dateline='1456889651']

I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that eye test is the #1 sign for quality girls.

Can you expand on the eye test aspect? I see a lot of girls throwing around the sad, overworked, puppy dog eye look these days, like, "Get me out of the office!" eyes. The "save me!" kind of eye look.

[greekgod]

(03-02-2016 02:16 PM)johnbozzz Wrote:  

[quote] (03-02-2016 02:09 PM)greekgod Wrote:  

I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that eye test is the #1 sign for quality girls.

Can you expand on the eye test aspect? I see a lot of girls throwing around the sad, overworked, puppy dog eye look these days, like, "Get me out of the office!" eyes. The "save me!" kind of eye look.

Yeah, listen, women are women. They are spontaneous, emotional, feral little creatures.

The differences are subtle between a whore, a slut, a good girl opportunist, a prude, a republican skank, a conservative farmers daughter, etc, etc.

The look you are referencing is not the look I'm referencing.

The eyes are THE window to the soul; remove beauty, or try to block it out, and look deep right at the plaything itself. By 24-25, her decisions and past will reveal themselves in her eyes. Not her eyelashes, make up, or color of eye but the essence.

Might be esoteric but you'll know it when you see it.

[johnbozzz]

(03-02-2016 03:51 PM)greekgod Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 02:16 PM)johnbozzz Wrote:  

[quote] (03-02-2016 02:09 PM)greekgod Wrote:  

I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that eye test is the #1 sign for quality girls.

Can you expand on the eye test aspect? I see a lot of girls throwing around the sad, overworked, puppy dog eye look these days, like, "Get me out of the office!" eyes. The "save me!" kind of eye look.

Yeah, listen, women are women. They are spontaneous, emotional, feral little creatures.

The differences are subtle between a whore, a slut, a good girl opportunist, a prude, a republican skank, a conservative farmers daughter, etc, etc.

The look you are referencing is not the look I'm referencing.

The eyes are THE window to the soul; remove beauty, or try to block it out, and look deep right at the plaything itself. By 24-25, her decisions and past will reveal themselves in her eyes. Not her eyelashes, make up, or color of eye but the essence.

Might be esoteric but you'll know it when you see it.

Hey thanks. This is helpful. I don't think I'm as intuitive as you are with these kinds of things.

[Kid Twist]

Interesting insights (no pun intended).

No doubt the classic (caretaker) professions for women are best.

[johnbozzz]

(03-02-2016 04:59 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

Interesting insights (no pun intended).

No doubt the classic (caretaker) professions for women are best.

True, but like I mentioned earlier, it's finding ones who aren't married and, most importantly, having an excise to go in. I would like to find women who work in interior design or some other feminine field, but these all seem like closed off industries.

[PapayaTapper]

[johnbozzz]

Sad. But I'm an optimist. I'm 23.

[WalkingMan]

(03-02-2016 05:38 PM)johnbozzz Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 04:59 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

Interesting insights (no pun intended).

No doubt the classic (caretaker) professions for women are best.

True, but like I mentioned earlier, it's finding ones who aren't married and, most importantly, having an excise to go in. I would like to find women who work in interior design or some other feminine field, but these all seem like closed off industries.

Hit up a college? I live in NY and I'm looking forward to fooling around at FIT. They're suffering through a severe case of heterosexual man drought lol.

[The Black Knight]

On paper, nurses should be solid choice.

But my experience has not been great with nurses. I seem to run into the ones who have a self-righteous complex due to the line of work and are very status conscious; but not in the overt materialistic way a lot of women can be like.

In America at least, I also don't buy into this perception that country/non-city chicks are better ("traditional"/conservative) than city chicks in any significant way. It's all one pile of crap throughout with a minority of decent women in the entire pile. Some locations are better vs others.

In a city, I would be targeting immigrant meet-up locations, clubs, and organizations. Any place where 1st and/or 2nd generation immigrant women congregate. These women from my experience have a decent consistency of being more traditional, feminine, and conservative (or at least conservative in the ways that matter).

Very rare to find a hardcore feminist among them. However, I do remember talking to a feminist spoil daddys girl Peruvian chick one time who wanted to get into women's issues as a career. I was in borderline shock since it was such a huge contrast from 99% of my experiences with Latin American immigrant women. It was repulsive and made me sick to my core.

Outside that (as mentioned already), a Mormon foothold, ward, or church if targeting non-immigrant women.

[johnbozzz]

(03-02-2016 08:43 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

But my experience has not been great with nurses. I seem to run into the ones who have a self-righteous complex due to the line of work and are very status conscious; but not in the overt materialistic way a lot of women can be like.

Self-righteous, as in, boasting about the difficulty of their jobs/additional volunteer work, online (Facebook) or in person?

[262]

IMO, a better bet for the OP at 23 is to stack paper and Game casually until he's at least 30. Then do some combination of living off those investments and starting location-independent businesses to escape the West.

[Kid Twist]

(03-03-2016 05:27 AM)262 Wrote:  

IMO, a better bet for the OP at 23 is to stack paper and Game casually until he's at least 30. Then do some combination of living off those investments and starting location-independent businesses to escape the West.

This is what I've done but I've unfortunately not been able to stay in places longer than a short-ish vacation (I've been to mostly Espana and Hellas). I think culturally and religiously the EE fit me best ... mid 30s now, my question is if the age discrimination (making younger girls feel bad for dating older guys) culture is less so over there. Or, would it just be compounded by the fact that I'm a "foreigner" even though we shared a same culture/religion?