[Zerdame]

(02-25-2016 11:00 AM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:  

(02-24-2016 07:12 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

My bad on that, I have actually met Asians who speaks Russian but I never got around asking them because I met them while I was working and I couldn't open. Alot of those I saw were models working for agencies, are these girls largely hired right out of their home countries or were they scouted while living abroad themselves?

they were picked up in their home countries, you see a lot of eastern european models going to Asia for that reason. A lot are lonely and depressed, learn a bit of russian and give them a good time!

A lot are also trafficked for sex, white girls are a huge premium in asia.

Look up the documentary Girl Model if you wana learn more about it.

I have met a couple of East European models in Japan and Singapore, they've always been stunning. I used some simple Russian phrases I learnt off the web on them. They always appear aloof before warming up considerably once they know you better. I had something going on with one before sadly having to leave Japan because my year long visa was up. Would be looking to meeting up with her when I go back to Japan in June for vacation.

Swuglyfe, looking forward to your stories and good luck man!

[WalterBlack]

(02-22-2016 07:41 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 05:38 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  

Does Central Asia count?

Hell yeah, I'm looking towards gaming Indian girls. Made out with a North Indian girl in a Singapore club the other day but didn't manage to close cause she was flying out the next morning and there wasn't time. Would like to know more about this region.

British Indian guy here - for Indian women the most attractive ones are mostly from the north, but most of the Indian population in Singapore and Malaysia are south Indian so the quality must be pretty low in SE Asia.

If you want to bang an Indian woman your best bet would be to go after a expat/tourist who is western born and raised Indian. Indian women who are raised in Asian countries tend to be a lot harder to bang than those raised in the west. The worst place to try to bang an Indian woman is India - stay the fuck away from that place!

[Zerdame]

(02-26-2016 03:41 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 07:41 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 05:38 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  

Does Central Asia count?

Hell yeah, I'm looking towards gaming Indian girls. Made out with a North Indian girl in a Singapore club the other day but didn't manage to close cause she was flying out the next morning and there wasn't time. Would like to know more about this region.

British Indian guy here - for Indian women the most attractive ones are mostly from the north, but most of the Indian population in Singapore and Malaysia are south Indian so the quality must be pretty low in SE Asia.

If you want to bang an Indian woman your best bet would be to go after a expat/tourist who is western born and raised Indian. Indian women who are raised in Asian countries tend to be a lot harder to bang than those raised in the west. The worst place to try to bang an Indian woman is India - stay the fuck away from that place!

Yeah, most of the Indians here are South Indians so they're not really my type. I tend to find the North Indians with their paler skin and eyes so much more alluring. Most of the Indians I hit on who are in this category of looks are normally North Indians who grew up in the West. I had one Indian girl who spoke with a thick British accent so that was kinda entertaining. Indian girls are definitely underrated.

[worldtraveler3]

I have never ever seen a east Asian with an Indian girl. Never

[Zerdame]

WARNING: LONG POST AHEAD

Spent the week in KL with a few friends. I've been to the city many times and I have a decent size harem to tap on on slow nights like Mondays or if I encounter a dry spell. My friends were there to sign a contract with suppliers and I just wanted a reason to get out of the country. So this is a detailed write up about my 5 day week in KL, no weekends just weekdays.

Day 1:

Arrived in KLIA around 10am and took a cab into the city and to my hotel. I always get Berjaya Time Square as my base since its in in the heart of Bukit Bintang and is in a mall so you pretty much can get anything you need. I was alittle tired, not having sleep much the night before, so I knocked out for a couple of hours in my room.

Woke up around 4 and headed to a restaurant in the mall for lunch. Flirted abit with one of the cute waitresses and it turns out its her first day on the job. Told her "I don't want to get you fired on your first day for flirting with a foreigner, what if your boss* gets jealous that her pretty new hire is getting all the attention?" She blushed and waved my comment away. Number closed after I finished my meal.

* in Mandarin/Cantonese, there is a word for "female boss" so there wasn't any inference needed on her part.

I headed for Pavilion, which was another mall in the Bukit Bintang area. I prefer Pavilion over BTS because it houses more of the international brands and is considered a higher tier mall as compared to BTS and lots of hot international models hang out here on their rest days in the Starbucks and such. Got chatting with a Polish model,Yulia, who was lamenting on the fact that Malaysian men were boring and "all they want are those skinny chinese girls who speak funnily." She was obviously referencing the unique Malaysian Chinese accent that the KL girls had, combined with the "kawaii" syndrome that Asian girls suffer from, that produce the ear-bleeding accent that the girls have. Her long legs and Eastern European accent were a killer for me but sadly she was flying out to Manila that night and wouldn't be back till next week. Oh well, number closed her and told her to let me know if she comes down to Singapore.

By 7, I was getting bored of the city already so I texted one of the girls I banged on a previous trip if she was up for a drink and that I was in her city. She was free and we were back in my room by 10. It was an early night but I needed something to get the trip starting on a good note.

Day 2:
I told my girl that I was leaving KL that very day so that she wouldn't pester me for the whole duration I was there. She was disappointed and whined that she wouldn't have came over if she knew I was leaving so fast but I told her that I had a plane to catch and she needed to go to work.

I went out of the city to Mid Valley Mall in Subang after breakfast, a short 30min taxi ride. Daygaming in Malaysian malls are the best as the girls are bored and since traffic was significantly slower on a Tuesday, the shop attendants were more than willing to talk to a charming foreigner.

Here's a tip to our Asian brothers, if you can pull off a few strings of Korean and can pass off the look, say that you're Korean. If not, say that you live in the US and are working in Singapore. That tremendously increases your value because as much as Malaysians will hate to admit it for some patriotic pride, the girls are envious of Singaporeans or/and their richer Asian counterparts. Living in Singapore, I can kinda understand why since a hard labourer in Singapore can earn a higher wage than a white collar graduate in Malaysia so many of these girls, especially those who come from 2nd or 3rd tier Malaysian cities, really want to get out of Malaysia to work overseas and you are potentially their ticket out of the shithole they live in.

I number closed about 7 girls in 3 hours and I was picky, only picking my personal 8s and above. 2 of which were willing to hang out that very day after they ended their mid day shift so I made plans for a date with one that night and waited for the other in a Starbucks since her shift was about to end in an hour. I took her back to KL and to a nice restaurant in BTS for an early dinner and then suggested that we chill out over a nice view in my room. I deliberately left out the fact that I lived right in the mall and she playfully teased me that I "planned everything out" and I just took her hand and walked her to the lobby, could have sworn she creamed her jeans just with that.

Took her up to my room and she gave me some LTR like "we've only met for a few hours" before I told her that we would play a game and if I won, I could continue and if she won, she could do anything including walking out of the room immediately. Naturally I won because well the game is rigged and she gave in. I knew I didn't need to do the whole game thing and she would probably have given in anyway but I wanted to refresh playing the game so I wouldn't fuck it up later when I use it in the clubs or bars. Easy lay, easy day.

Day 3:

I had a date that night with the girl from the previous night but I was spending the day sightseeing with my friends and didn't do much game and didn't technically get back into the city until 7pm where I washed up and got ready for my date. Met her at Changkat for drinks and it was pretty obvious she was a horny little slut so I didn't waste my time or money too much gaming this one, willingly went back to the hotel with me after a few drinks. She gave me one of the best BJ I've had in my life and I opted to have her finish the night with another BJ after fucking her, she swallowed every drop with a smile. Sometimes I like sluts.

Day 4: I woke up with a really bad headache and it didn't really go away much throughout the day so I slept in for the most part and chilled at the hotel pool. I was admittedly pretty worried that I was coming down with the flu so I didn't want to take risks, slept the day away.

Day 5: I was feeling alot better after resting the day before but I still woke up late and took my time to get up. I got up around 3 and did some shopping in BTS before getting ready to hit the clubs.

Got some dinner with friends and went off to Changkat to drink abit and pre game with some of the Western backpackers, bullshitted a bunch of fat American girls who were telling me how "pitiful the Asians here are for living in such a slum of a city." Maybe it was the fact that they were ugly or just that I had some alcohol in my system but I just laid it at them telling them something like "at least the girls got some decency to not look like a whale and have enough cash in their pockets to get themselves some decent clothes" before I laughed and waved the waitress over to pay for our drinks. After some laughs about the ordeal, my friends and I were pretty stoked and hyped and we wanted some high energy riding when we hit the clubs. We went to Zouk KL which is a sister club of the Zouk in Singapore and it was pretty crowded given that it was a Friday. Anyways, the moment I stepped into the club, it reminded me of why I hated clubs in Asia. There is always the rich kid that blows his money in the club and acts like he owns everyone in the club and would fight you to the death for "stealing his girl" when all you did was gave her a smile over the bar. This mofo shoved me from the side for apparently "hitting on his girl" He didn't know I was foreign so he was spewing away in Cantonese. The thing I hated about the whole thing was that I understood Cantonese and by default understood what this faggot was screaming at me. But I knew I would have the upper hand if I just pretended I din't understand what tf he was saying and I yelled back in English. Can't really remember what I said but he didn't understood anything I said anyway so all he knew was I was not a typical Malaysian and he started spewing some xenophobic shit(again in Cantonese) and I told him that he could go fuck himself. This mofo was short even for Chinese standards so I was taller than him and his buddies pulled him back before he got himself in trouble. The bouncer was also surprisingly chill and told me that the dude gets into a fight almost every week and that he wasn't worth my time. Appreciated his effort in explaining it to me and I tipped him good when I left the club that night.

I was dancing up to this 8 and I have admittedly bad dance game and I pulled her relatively quickly to the bar to get drinks. One of my buddies was making out with a girl he pulled so good for him

After I went off to the toilet, I came out and saw a dude hitting on the girl earlier. After the early fiasco, I wasn't really in the mood for another conflict so I went over and whispered in my girl's ear that I'm bouncing to another bar and if she wanted to come and she came along. The rest of the night was pretty much the same routine, location swap, hotel, bang.

We had an early flight out of KL the next day and I was home in Singapore by 1pm. Its hard to go wrong in KL and with the relatively cheap cost of living, its definitely somewhere I might put up long term in the future.

[whiteknightrises]

(02-25-2016 09:37 PM)swuglyfe Wrote:  

Just booked my first ever trip to the Phils, Jun. 9-23. This is my first real game trip back to Asia, I'm gonna see if I can take full advantage of slipping under the white foreigner ASD, while maintaining the allure of being American. Pipelining starts now, lads...

There's no reason to start pipelining 3 months in advance. Made that mistake (~1 month in advance though) before I went to Bangkok and had way too many convos to handle.

From what I understand, Philippines is even easier than BKK

[Jack Of All Trades]

2 weeks is more than enough to pipeline going into the Philippines. I haven't tried daygame there, but I think it would be a lot better than just using online, line up as many dates as possible and keep adding more and more. The girls can be pretty flakey, you also should screen for logistics as well.

[Zerdame]

Pipelining early is good for countries like Japan where everyone makes plans months in advance and is considered the norm. Instadates are frown upon in Japan and girls who agree to them are judged as "having no friends" or "no guy asked her out" so Japanese society can be pretty shitty about this and the girls care ALOT what people think about them.

On the other hand, most other Asian countries don't really have that problem and girls are perfectly fine to go out with you if you make plans a few days in advance or even on the day itself. Pipelining too early in advance can then be seen as needy or weird as these girls would think "Don't you have any stuff on from now till your trip?" Funny how different cultures work.

Speaking of pipelining, how do you guys do online in countries such as Indonesia and Phil? I feel like my results are decent but you get the occasional "I only want white guys" kinda things posted on these girls profile. I checked with my white friend and our match rates are way off with him almost getting a match with every swipe. This is Tinder we're using but I find that the girls that actually match me tend to be more responsive and I actually get laid more than him even though his match ratios are like 4:1 with me. What do you guys think about this?

[262]

(03-07-2016 04:19 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

Speaking of pipelining, how do you guys do online in countries such as Indonesia and Phil? I feel like my results are decent but you get the occasional "I only want white guys" kinda things posted on these girls profile. I checked with my white friend and our match rates are way off with him almost getting a match with every swipe. This is Tinder we're using but I find that the girls that actually match me tend to be more responsive and I actually get laid more than him even though his match ratios are like 4:1 with me. What do you guys think about this?

Interesting. Sounds like the online girls want to see if they can get the attention of white guys, but when it comes to pulling the trigger and actually being seen with them, they get shy.

That, or they simply don't consider the next step when they swipe, since as we all know, girls are less future-oriented, and focus more on their present feelings.

Pure speculation, of course.

Another explanation may simply be that your Game is better than his.

Edit: Or he could have something outside his primary picture that DLVs him - like a non-primary picture with a clearly unattractive girl.

[Zerdame]

(03-07-2016 04:34 AM)262 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 04:19 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

Speaking of pipelining, how do you guys do online in countries such as Indonesia and Phil? I feel like my results are decent but you get the occasional "I only want white guys" kinda things posted on these girls profile. I checked with my white friend and our match rates are way off with him almost getting a match with every swipe. This is Tinder we're using but I find that the girls that actually match me tend to be more responsive and I actually get laid more than him even though his match ratios are like 4:1 with me. What do you guys think about this?

Interesting. Sounds like the online girls want to see if they can get the attention of white guys, but when it comes to pulling the trigger and actually being seen with them, they get shy.

That, or they simply don't consider the next step when they swipe, since as we all know, girls are less future-oriented, and focus more on their present feelings.

Pure speculation, of course.

Another explanation may simply be that your Game is better than his.

Edit: Or he could have something outside his primary picture that DLVs him - like a non-primary picture with a clearly unattractive girl.

I think what you said is a valid possibility, he's older but later to the Game than me . He's a real decent dude to hang around, very nice guy but I haven't be down in the bars or gaming with me so I can't speak of his game levels.

Its also interesting that he gets many instant replies after matching or even girls initiating conversations only for them to go radio silence on him soon afterwards. In comparison, girls never start conversations with me(maybe 1 or 2 in a long time) but they tend to stick around and most convert to dates. I have a theory that they are talking to multiple white dudes at the same time and are more picky with the white dudes than they are with me, an East Asian. I like to go all high and mighty and credit it all to me having great game but I'm pretty sure that the reality is just that I'm capitalizing on my novelty and getting it to work in my favor. Still, whatever that works

[swuglyfe]

(03-07-2016 04:19 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

Pipelining early is good for countries like Japan where everyone makes plans months in advance and is considered the norm. Instadates are frown upon in Japan and girls who agree to them are judged as "having no friends" or "no guy asked her out" so Japanese society can be pretty shitty about this and the girls care ALOT what people think about them.

On the other hand, most other Asian countries don't really have that problem and girls are perfectly fine to go out with you if you make plans a few days in advance or even on the day itself. Pipelining too early in advance can then be seen as needy or weird as these girls would think "Don't you have any stuff on from now till your trip?" Funny how different cultures work.

Speaking of pipelining, how do you guys do online in countries such as Indonesia and Phil? I feel like my results are decent but you get the occasional "I only want white guys" kinda things posted on these girls profile. I checked with my white friend and our match rates are way off with him almost getting a match with every swipe. This is Tinder we're using but I find that the girls that actually match me tend to be more responsive and I actually get laid more than him even though his match ratios are like 4:1 with me. What do you guys think about this?

It's quite possible I overcooked it, but I've already got about half a dozen really solid leads, and I'm filtering new additions not based solely on whether they'd be good fucks; one of the girls I have right now literally said "I'll be your own personal porn star"

Rather, one is thinking about all the places to take me around the city and see the sights (which is half of the reason I'm there), while another one's dad is a beach resort owner and is trying to hook me up there on the DL.

Bottom line, overkill perhaps, but it's turned out alright.

[Jack Of All Trades]

I suggest checking out manila bay. The strip is really nice especially at sunset, it's a nice date spot but it's out of the way if your living in makati.

[El Chinito loco]

(03-07-2016 04:55 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

Its also interesting that he gets many instant replies after matching or even girls initiating conversations only for them to go radio silence on him soon afterwards. In comparison, girls never start conversations with me(maybe 1 or 2 in a long time) but they tend to stick around and most convert to dates. I have a theory that they are talking to multiple white dudes at the same time and are more picky with the white dudes than they are with me, an East Asian. I like to go all high and mighty and credit it all to me having great game but I'm pretty sure that the reality is just that I'm capitalizing on my novelty and getting it to work in my favor. Still, whatever that works

I get pretty good match rate on Tinder throughout asia i'd first re-examine your pictures too and see if there's anything you can do to improve it.

You're right about some of those assumptions. Some girls will swipe right on every obvious foreign looking guy based on the first picture as long as they are decent looking. Then afterwards they will filter it down to the best looking guys that reply back. Which could be a shitload of matches especially in the Makati area.

Girls that tend to swipe right on me are looking more for local guys and/or read my profile and realize i'm asian from abroad. It's more targeted so the flake rate I get from girls is also pretty low.

I don't get much crossover on Tinder where girls who exclusively like foreign looking white guys also match with me. However, in regular day/night game I have laid quite a few girls who have been with a variety of foreign men..especially in the Philippines.

It's really not hard to game these girls even the minority out there with very particular foreigner fetish preferences.

I don't know how much time you have in country but you should go more for social circle and day game anyways. The payoff is much higher. Tinder should always be passive filter for pussy.

[booshala]

Nice writeup on KL... only been there once in transit for 36 hours and I didn't know anyone there at the time so just wandered around aimlessly. Sounds like if you're focused and have a good group you can do damage. All of these girls you banged were Chinese-Malaysians?

[Zerdame]

@El Chinito: I don't normally have much time in the phil so I would only pipeline and meet those that I'm interested since I'm normally there for exhibitions held in a hotel and we would get a room in that hotel specifically to save on cost. These stuff always start and end late so not much time there to do much walking around. I would pipeline these girls and get them to come to the hotel for a drink at the bar. I would normally say I'm there for work and would be busy so that filter out a significant bit and only those who are on the same wavelength with me. I'm not a big fan of Phil girls so I don't put as much effort.

@Booshala: Yup, I've never tried going for the Indians and Malays. Most of the Indians in Msia are South Indians and are not exactly my type. I tried gaming the local Malays but its not as easy and I cant be bothered too much as well. I find that my Korean card plays really well with the Chinese-Malaysians and I would be there only for a few days working the ground so I focus on getting easier lays. Would be looking to put up in KL for a month in the future, more time to work the other races and see where it goes from there.

[HOD]

Didn't see the point of checking out the night clubs in Guangzhou, the weather sucks right now. Will report when weather is better.

Shenzhen, China Datasheet

3/11/16 to 3/13/2016 March 11th, 2016

Went to the Shenzhen for two days on Friday and Saturday for business reason.

Probably not the best time to go due to the rain and cold. Please do not go there during this time of the year, due to how cold the temperature is (50 degrees) and how rainy it is. Looks like Jan - March is a bad time due to weather. Pussy never does well in cold and rainy weather.

I was there by invitation to meetup with Chinese business associates I met in Guangzhou. One of the advantage of being an Chinese American, they consider you a countryman, even though you are an American. This is one of the coolest things for being an Asian guy in Asia. It's always kool to do some male bonding. In the US the Chinese really dont like each other and you will get very little help from other Asian brothers in the US. Asians in general, don't like each other. Probably a competition or scarcity mindset. I am always very mindful of which person I should help, rather they are Asian american men or not. They seem to be a real contempt and jealousy for each other, I have learned a long time ago to adopte a more American culture of, "Give and take". Cooperation is key.

I have also heard from American associates in China, the Chinese from each region in China don't really like each other.

Perhaps they only respect Chinese American men. Which I do notice.

I also notice every introduction to a Chinese businessmen, was received with puzzlement and condemning me for my poor mandarin. "You must learn mandarin."

I am focker. Shit it ain't easy. Reading, writing and speaking. With different tones and symbols. Damn language is like studying Calculus.

But most Chinese Businessmen English is quite good, with poor accent.

Mandarin is very dominate in Shenzhen, I didn't here alot of Cantonese talk. I also notice in Canton, there is a heavy movement towards Mandarin.

Travel from Guangzhou to Shenzhen by High speed train:

Another kool thing about Guangzhou is the High speed train between the two cities.
I rode the highspeed train from Guangzhou South Station. Because they offer a direct high speed train that only takes 30 minutes and can be non-stop (Chose the train that is non stop) to North Shenzhen train station. The north Shenzhen station offers a direct shot into the CBD area. Use the Subway line 5 train at the North Shenzhen Train station, which will take you directly to the Convention center area near the CBD. If your lazy you can than transfer using the line 1 to get around or get closer to Cocopark or other CBD areas. Its a very walk-able area. There are tons of restaurant in the subway tunnels.

Tips on taking High-speed train for Foreigners:

The train ticket is mostly in Chinese, use this website, if your mandarin sucks. It can be confusing.

http://www.travelchinaguide.com/china-tr...ickets.htm

Remember, the gates are in the upper right corner. Very important, when reading train tickets. Make sure you are 15 minutes early before departure, it can take quite some time to get from the gate to the train. Because there is a long line to get on the train. It can also take 15 minutes to get pass security and get to the Gates. In addition, all seats are assign.

Also, the only way to buy and pickup your ticket is at the train station, even if you bought it online! Which is annoying there can be long lines and can take 30 to 1 hour. You must bring your passport purchasing train ticket and to go through security line in order to enter the trains station.

In addition, you cannot use the vending machine, because you must have a Chinese ID to operate it. Which no foreigner has. Total cockblock.

The main reason for the long lines at the train station, maybe due to migrant workers don't have ID and students are not allow to use the vending machine. Another cockblock. Another form of big brother oppressing the bottom and marginal class of society.

Riding the high speed train:

I rode in first class, the seats are assign and are bigger than airline seats, and has the option to leans back and offers a bigger table for your laptop. There is no plugins and no refreshment for your short 30 min trip. The chair is made out of cloth and cheap material. Hey what do you expect for 99 rmb. The train does reach a top speed of 303 km which is around 186 mph. Kind of kool.

Watching the train pass cars and landscape is interesting. We can only dream about highspeed train in California.

I than road in second class on the way back, because first class was sold out. It was about 75 rmb. The main difference is a much smaller seats and it is more crowded. The seats can not lean back and the seats are similar to airplane seats. Probably ideal for short 30 min trips.

Went to a night club restaurant on top of Coco park, no-then special to write about due to the weather, I think it was just an opportunity for the group to meet and greet and brag.

They always seem to like to joke about there Mistress or pros, I haven't figure out which is which yet. They seem to bring these girls around after dinner.

Starting to notice how Chinese business is done, through corruption and who you know.

The Talent: Granted its winter in Shenzhen, rainy and cold. You will see a diverse crowd of Chinese Girls around Coco Park. They are more attractive and have better skin tone than there Guangzhou counter part and much taller. But to say they are hot, is being generous. There just different. Its like saying American girls are hot. There is definitely a myth among non american men, around the world, that American girls are hot. Australian men definitely believe in this. They definitely have a thing for American girls.

The pretty one looks more Korean or Japanese. I think alot of foreigners are giving them too much credit and the girls know that. I saw a good looking westerner with an average Asian women. Looks like California, she was quite happy with her catch. I think Shenzhen and Guangzhou is overrated and disappointing. Being an Asian man, who have dated and banged girls from Taiwan, China, Japan and Korea, I know the true value of these girls. There just hustling dudes with there average looks.

I say don't bang Shenzhen or Guangzhou, there are better options in Asia. You will be spending money in these cities. I burn through some cash to research this. It was not worth it for me. This could explain why there are very few or any Asian men recommending Guangzhou or Shenzhen. I have yet to meet any Asian American, saying this place is awesome.

Further analysis, to learn mandarin, than understand the culture, deal with non-western tiolets, spitting, pollution, and than spend thousands of dollars on travel to Guangzhou and Shenzhen. That has to be the worst ROI. I was running the numbers. I have come to realize I have spent quite alot of time and money. The amount of effort and thirst needed to get these girls. I rather learn Russian, Japanese, Spanish or Korean. The ROI on these girls are low. I have really regretted visiting Beijing, Guangzhou and now Shenzhen. The only kool factor, I am Chinese I did learn about my culture. That was kool and I am, now balls deep into mandarin and cannot turn back now. Thousands of dollar and hours was spent to meet average Asian women. Could of just went to little Saigon or Korea town in LA, and mack on the FOBS there. Chinese girls are not hot. They got some really nutritional issues. But given better nutrition, I believe they have the talent to be hot. They really need to stop eating pork in the South. Pork is really bad for the human body. They seem to love pork in Guangzhou.

I will not be visiting anymore Chinese cities, they all look alike accept for Beijing.

[Cattle Rustler]

Have you tried other parts of china like Dalian, Kunming, Chongqing, etc?

[HOD]

(03-13-2016 11:44 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Have you tried other parts of china like Dalian, Kunming, Chongqing, etc?

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm done, moving on to better ROI, I think I've seen enough and spent enough. Like most western men, there is alot of compromising in China. You have to give up alot of western comfort, to enjoy China. I have made alot of concessions. But it was a kool experience. I am Chinese, and I got to meet alot of kool Chinese people. I also learn the cruel reality of big brother government and the top 1% power over the masses. I have great empathy for the migrant workers, and to see how the top 1% treat them, brings a true humbleness to my existence. China has answer alot of Asian American issue I have, where I needed to resolve and understand. Where I came from and how I fit into western society. I am truly humble by my experience of Chinese people.

[jayko]

(03-07-2016 11:35 PM)Zerdame Wrote:  

@El Chinito: I don't normally have much time in the phil so I would only pipeline and meet those that I'm interested since I'm normally there for exhibitions held in a hotel and we would get a room in that hotel specifically to save on cost. These stuff always start and end late so not much time there to do much walking around. I would pipeline these girls and get them to come to the hotel for a drink at the bar. I would normally say I'm there for work and would be busy so that filter out a significant bit and only those who are on the same wavelength with me. I'm not a big fan of Phil girls so I don't put as much effort.

@Booshala: Yup, I've never tried going for the Indians and Malays. Most of the Indians in Msia are South Indians and are not exactly my type. I tried gaming the local Malays but its not as easy and I cant be bothered too much as well. I find that my Korean card plays really well with the Chinese-Malaysians and I would be there only for a few days working the ground so I focus on getting easier lays. Would be looking to put up in KL for a month in the future, more time to work the other races and see where it goes from there.

Go for north indian in Msia or Singapore, once you go north indian, you won't go back! but they sure have very strict social circle that is not for everyone to break into with ease.

The trick of getting into the pant of malay chicks is to have some guitars skills and bike skills. I would rate them as one of the easiest.

[jayko]

(03-13-2016 10:38 AM)elimanning Wrote:  

Didn't see the point of checking out the night clubs in Guangzhou, the weather sucks right now. Will report when weather is better.

Shenzhen, China Datasheet

3/11/16 to 3/13/2016 March 11th, 2016

Went to the Shenzhen for two days on Friday and Saturday for business reason.

Probably not the best time to go due to the rain and cold. Please do not go there during this time of the year, due to how cold the temperature is (50 degrees) and how rainy it is. Looks like Jan - March is a bad time due to weather. Pussy never does well in cold and rainy weather.

I was there by invitation to meetup with Chinese business associates I met in Guangzhou. One of the advantage of being an Chinese American, they consider you a countryman, even though you are an American. This is one of the coolest things for being an Asian guy in Asia. It's always kool to do some male bonding. In the US the Chinese really dont like each other and you will get very little help from other Asian brothers in the US. Asians in general, don't like each other. Probably a competition or scarcity mindset. I am always very mindful of which person I should help, rather they are Asian american men or not. They seem to be a real contempt and jealousy for each other, I have learned a long time ago to adopte a more American culture of, "Give and take". Cooperation is key.

I have also heard from American associates in China, the Chinese from each region in China don't really like each other.

Perhaps they only respect Chinese American men. Which I do notice.

I also notice every introduction to a Chinese businessmen, was received with puzzlement and condemning me for my poor mandarin. "You must learn mandarin."

I am focker. Shit it ain't easy. Reading, writing and speaking. With different tones and symbols. Damn language is like studying Calculus.

But most Chinese Businessmen English is quite good, with poor accent.

Mandarin is very dominate in Shenzhen, I didn't here alot of Cantonese talk. I also notice in Canton, there is a heavy movement towards Mandarin.

Travel from Guangzhou to Shenzhen by High speed train:

Another kool thing about Guangzhou is the High speed train between the two cities.
I rode the highspeed train from Guangzhou South Station. Because they offer a direct high speed train that only takes 30 minutes and can be non-stop (Chose the train that is non stop) to North Shenzhen train station. The north Shenzhen station offers a direct shot into the CBD area. Use the Subway line 5 train at the North Shenzhen Train station, which will take you directly to the Convention center area near the CBD. If your lazy you can than transfer using the line 1 to get around or get closer to Cocopark or other CBD areas. Its a very walk-able area. There are tons of restaurant in the subway tunnels.

Tips on taking High-speed train for Foreigners:

The train ticket is mostly in Chinese, use this website, if your mandarin sucks. It can be confusing.

http://www.travelchinaguide.com/china-tr...ickets.htm

Remember, the gates are in the upper right corner. Very important, when reading train tickets. Make sure you are 15 minutes early before departure, it can take quite some time to get from the gate to the train. Because there is a long line to get on the train. It can also take 15 minutes to get pass security and get to the Gates. In addition, all seats are assign.

Also, the only way to buy and pickup your ticket is at the train station, even if you bought it online! Which is annoying there can be long lines and can take 30 to 1 hour. You must bring your passport purchasing train ticket and to go through security line in order to enter the trains station.

In addition, you cannot use the vending machine, because you must have a Chinese ID to operate it. Which no foreigner has. Total cockblock.

The main reason for the long lines at the train station, maybe due to migrant workers don't have ID and students are not allow to use the vending machine. Another cockblock. Another form of big brother oppressing the bottom and marginal class of society.

Riding the high speed train:

I rode in first class, the seats are assign and are bigger than airline seats, and has the option to leans back and offers a bigger table for your laptop. There is no plugins and no refreshment for your short 30 min trip. The chair is made out of cloth and cheap material. Hey what do you expect for 99 rmb. The train does reach a top speed of 303 km which is around 186 mph. Kind of kool.

Watching the train pass cars and landscape is interesting. We can only dream about highspeed train in California.

I than road in second class on the way back, because first class was sold out. It was about 75 rmb. The main difference is a much smaller seats and it is more crowded. The seats can not lean back and the seats are similar to airplane seats. Probably ideal for short 30 min trips.

Went to a night club restaurant on top of Coco park, no-then special to write about due to the weather, I think it was just an opportunity for the group to meet and greet and brag.

They always seem to like to joke about there Mistress or pros, I haven't figure out which is which yet. They seem to bring these girls around after dinner.

Starting to notice how Chinese business is done, through corruption and who you know.

The Talent: Granted its winter in Shenzhen, rainy and cold. You will see a diverse crowd of Chinese Girls around Coco Park. They are more attractive and have better skin tone than there Guangzhou counter part and much taller. But to say they are hot, is being generous. There just different. Its like saying American girls are hot. There is definitely a myth among non american men, around the world, that American girls are hot. Australian men definitely believe in this. They definitely have a thing for American girls.

The pretty one looks more Korean or Japanese. I think alot of foreigners are giving them too much credit and the girls know that. I saw a good looking westerner with an average Asian women. Looks like California, she was quite happy with her catch. I think Shenzhen and Guangzhou is overrated and disappointing. Being an Asian man, who have dated and banged girls from Taiwan, China, Japan and Korea, I know the true value of these girls. There just hustling dudes with there average looks.

I say don't bang Shenzhen or Guangzhou, there are better options in Asia. You will be spending money in these cities. I burn through some cash to research this. It was not worth it for me. This could explain why there are very few or any Asian men recommending Guangzhou or Shenzhen. I have yet to meet any Asian American, saying this place is awesome.

Further analysis, to learn mandarin, than understand the culture, deal with non-western tiolets, spitting, pollution, and than spend thousands of dollars on travel to Guangzhou and Shenzhen. That has to be the worst ROI. I was running the numbers. I have come to realize I have spent quite alot of time and money. The amount of effort and thirst needed to get these girls. I rather learn Russian, Japanese, Spanish or Korean. The ROI on these girls are low. I have really regretted visiting Beijing, Guangzhou and now Shenzhen. The only kool factor, I am Chinese I did learn about my culture. That was kool and I am, now balls deep into mandarin and cannot turn back now. Thousands of dollar and hours was spent to meet average Asian women. Could of just went to little Saigon or Korea town in LA, and mack on the FOBS there. Chinese girls are not hot. They got some really nutritional issues. But given better nutrition, I believe they have the talent to be hot. They really need to stop eating pork in the South. Pork is really bad for the human body. They seem to love pork in Guangzhou.

I will not be visiting anymore Chinese cities, they all look alike accept for Beijing.

Well, now that you have done with China's adventure, what is your next stop? somewhere western?

[HOD]

(03-13-2016 12:50 PM)jayko Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 10:38 AM)elimanning Wrote:  

Didn't see the point of checking out the night clubs in Guangzhou, the weather sucks right now. Will report when weather is better.



Further analysis, to learn mandarin, than understand the culture, deal with non-western tiolets, spitting, pollution, and than spend thousands of dollars on travel to Guangzhou and Shenzhen. That has to be the worst ROI. I was running the numbers. I have come to realize I have spent quite alot of time and money. The amount of effort and thirst needed to get these girls. I rather learn Russian, Japanese, Spanish or Korean. The ROI on these girls are low. I have really regretted visiting Beijing, Guangzhou and now Shenzhen. The only kool factor, I am Chinese I did learn about my culture. That was kool and I am, now balls deep into mandarin and cannot turn back now. Thousands of dollar and hours was spent to meet average Asian women. Could of just went to little Saigon or Korea town in LA, and mack on the FOBS there. Chinese girls are not hot. They got some really nutritional issues. But given better nutrition, I believe they have the talent to be hot. They really need to stop eating pork in the South. Pork is really bad for the human body. They seem to love pork in Guangzhou.

I will not be visiting anymore Chinese cities, they all look alike accept for Beijing.

Well, now that you have done with China's adventure, what is your next stop? somewhere western?

Definitely not western. Probably somewhere in the FSU. I had success with these women in the past.

[jayko]

(03-13-2016 12:58 PM)elimanning Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 12:50 PM)jayko Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 10:38 AM)elimanning Wrote:  

Didn't see the point of checking out the night clubs in Guangzhou, the weather sucks right now. Will report when weather is better.



Further analysis, to learn mandarin, than understand the culture, deal with non-western tiolets, spitting, pollution, and than spend thousands of dollars on travel to Guangzhou and Shenzhen. That has to be the worst ROI. I was running the numbers. I have come to realize I have spent quite alot of time and money. The amount of effort and thirst needed to get these girls. I rather learn Russian, Japanese, Spanish or Korean. The ROI on these girls are low. I have really regretted visiting Beijing, Guangzhou and now Shenzhen. The only kool factor, I am Chinese I did learn about my culture. That was kool and I am, now balls deep into mandarin and cannot turn back now. Thousands of dollar and hours was spent to meet average Asian women. Could of just went to little Saigon or Korea town in LA, and mack on the FOBS there. Chinese girls are not hot. They got some really nutritional issues. But given better nutrition, I believe they have the talent to be hot. They really need to stop eating pork in the South. Pork is really bad for the human body. They seem to love pork in Guangzhou.

I will not be visiting anymore Chinese cities, they all look alike accept for Beijing.

Well, now that you have done with China's adventure, what is your next stop? somewhere western?

Definitely not western. Probably somewhere in the FSU. I had success with these women in the past.

Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia or Belarus I suppose? have you started learn some Russian language skill?

Mainland Chinese do view ABC in a cool way for the most part. But I can't say the reverse is true. I am overseas Chinese, I find talking to Mainland Chinese is easy as long as you speak their lingo, and show your interest in knowing the country and culture there.

[HOD]

(03-13-2016 01:09 PM)jayko Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 12:58 PM)elimanning Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 12:50 PM)jayko Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 10:38 AM)elimanning Wrote:  

Didn't see the point of checking out the night clubs in Guangzhou, the weather sucks right now. Will report when weather is better.



Further analysis, to learn mandarin, than understand the culture, deal with non-western tiolets, spitting, pollution, and than spend thousands of dollars on travel to Guangzhou and Shenzhen. That has to be the worst ROI. I was running the numbers. I have come to realize I have spent quite alot of time and money. The amount of effort and thirst needed to get these girls. I rather learn Russian, Japanese, Spanish or Korean. The ROI on these girls are low. I have really regretted visiting Beijing, Guangzhou and now Shenzhen. The only kool factor, I am Chinese I did learn about my culture. That was kool and I am, now balls deep into mandarin and cannot turn back now. Thousands of dollar and hours was spent to meet average Asian women. Could of just went to little Saigon or Korea town in LA, and mack on the FOBS there. Chinese girls are not hot. They got some really nutritional issues. But given better nutrition, I believe they have the talent to be hot. They really need to stop eating pork in the South. Pork is really bad for the human body. They seem to love pork in Guangzhou.

I will not be visiting anymore Chinese cities, they all look alike accept for Beijing.

Well, now that you have done with China's adventure, what is your next stop? somewhere western?

Definitely not western. Probably somewhere in the FSU. I had success with these women in the past.

Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia or Belarus I suppose? have you started learn some Russian language skill?

Mainland Chinese do view ABC in a cool way for the most part. But I can't say the reverse is true. I am overseas Chinese, I find talking to Mainland Chinese is easy as long as you speak their lingo, and show your interest in knowing the country and culture there.

Yes, learning Russian is paramount, just like learning Mandarin is required resume for gaming Chinese girls. If you want the pretty ones.

I enjoy talking to the Chinese, they are our countrymen.

[jayko]

(03-13-2016 01:15 PM)elimanning Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 01:09 PM)jayko Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 12:58 PM)elimanning Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 12:50 PM)jayko Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 10:38 AM)elimanning Wrote:  

Didn't see the point of checking out the night clubs in Guangzhou, the weather sucks right now. Will report when weather is better.



Further analysis, to learn mandarin, than understand the culture, deal with non-western tiolets, spitting, pollution, and than spend thousands of dollars on travel to Guangzhou and Shenzhen. That has to be the worst ROI. I was running the numbers. I have come to realize I have spent quite alot of time and money. The amount of effort and thirst needed to get these girls. I rather learn Russian, Japanese, Spanish or Korean. The ROI on these girls are low. I have really regretted visiting Beijing, Guangzhou and now Shenzhen. The only kool factor, I am Chinese I did learn about my culture. That was kool and I am, now balls deep into mandarin and cannot turn back now. Thousands of dollar and hours was spent to meet average Asian women. Could of just went to little Saigon or Korea town in LA, and mack on the FOBS there. Chinese girls are not hot. They got some really nutritional issues. But given better nutrition, I believe they have the talent to be hot. They really need to stop eating pork in the South. Pork is really bad for the human body. They seem to love pork in Guangzhou.

I will not be visiting anymore Chinese cities, they all look alike accept for Beijing.

Well, now that you have done with China's adventure, what is your next stop? somewhere western?

Definitely not western. Probably somewhere in the FSU. I had success with these women in the past.

Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia or Belarus I suppose? have you started learn some Russian language skill?

Mainland Chinese do view ABC in a cool way for the most part. But I can't say the reverse is true. I am overseas Chinese, I find talking to Mainland Chinese is easy as long as you speak their lingo, and show your interest in knowing the country and culture there.

Yes, learning Russian is paramount, just like learning Mandarin is required resume for gaming Chinese girls. If you want the pretty ones.

I enjoy talking to the Chinese, they are our countrymen.

Russian script is giving me hard time, it is so much different than what we used to. but if you put in effort, I am sure you will get there. So now you are back in the States and planning your FSU trips and slays?
Mandarin is essential, if you know the dialect,now that is an added bonus for sure. lol

[HOD]

(03-13-2016 01:28 PM)jayko Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 01:15 PM)elimanning Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 01:09 PM)jayko Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 12:58 PM)elimanning Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 12:50 PM)jayko Wrote:  

Well, now that you have done with China's adventure, what is your next stop? somewhere western?

Definitely not western. Probably somewhere in the FSU. I had success with these women in the past.

Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia or Belarus I suppose? have you started learn some Russian language skill?

Mainland Chinese do view ABC in a cool way for the most part. But I can't say the reverse is true. I am overseas Chinese, I find talking to Mainland Chinese is easy as long as you speak their lingo, and show your interest in knowing the country and culture there.

Yes, learning Russian is paramount, just like learning Mandarin is required resume for gaming Chinese girls. If you want the pretty ones.

I enjoy talking to the Chinese, they are our countrymen.

Russian script is giving me hard time, it is so much different than what we used to. but if you put in effort, I am sure you will get there. So now you are back in the States and planning your FSU trips and slays?
Mandarin is essential, if you know the dialect,now that is an added bonus for sure. lol

No, I'm still in Guangzhou, researching business ideas. Need to continue learning mandarin. My original reason was to talk to Chinese girls, but its now more for my personal heritage. My Mandarin continue to still sucks, going to keep at it until I'm decent. Learning how to read and write now. I have started researching Russian Language. Just studying both now as my new hobbies and working out. I am no longer putting in any effort into meeting Chinese women. Redirecting that energy into making more money instead and enjoying life.