[iknowexactly]

Well, the title kind of says it.

You go to arctic Russia, remotest Ukraine, or Kyoto and -- one of them asks this, or asks more generally
"What do you think of American women?"

I've been pipelining on a dating site for Russia ( I won't name it because I don't recommend it, like most of them it's mostly
scamming) but this question has been put to me by someone I feel is a legitimate possibility.

Ideas?

[DadaLand]

Really, don´t get into philosphy about American girls. Usually, why foreign chicks ask this particularly question is because they want to hear you saying:

"Cause Russian girls are more beautiful etc".

[The Duke]

I always say "I like American women". I say it because for me, it's true, and I like remind the foreign girl that there is competition.

[azulsombra]

Absolutely. When I'm abroad i make sure I let the foreign women know they have competition. I say, american women are beautiful and come in all different flavors, but they are too career focused and don't know how to love like the women of ______ insert country.

[ManAbout]

If you tell them that you don't like American women you will come across as bitter. No girl wants to be with a man who carries around bitterness and hatred for other women.

If a Russian girl asks me, I just tell them that I prefer Russian women because I think they are the most beautiful girls in the world. It appeals to their national pride, and compliments them without directly doing so.

[Roosh]

I've tried a few angles.

In Poland, what works is trashing American girls and hyping Polish girls, while NOT hyping the girl you're talking about. What it does is set up a challenge to see if she can live up to the expectations you've set up. For some girls this doesn't work (e.g. Argentine), but in Poland it's fine. Example:

Girl: "So why do you like Polish girls more than American girls?"

Me: "Well, Polish girls are more sexy, feminine, affectionate, gentle, caring, funny, they can cook better, they know how to dance, and they know how to take care of men. Did I miss anything? "

She'll smile, say no, and then maybe I'd joke with her that her heels aren't high enough, that "other Polish women I've dated" had higher heels.

Depending on where you are (and how much experience you have with the local women), I'd simply experiment with your answers and then pick the one that gives you the best response. I don't think there is an optimum answer for all girls of the world. You can imagine how different my answer would be in a place like Denmark.

[at350zguyy]

(09-12-2011 03:10 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I've tried a few angles.

In Poland, what works is trashing American girls and hyping Polish girls, while NOT hyping the girl you're talking about. What it does is set up a challenge to see if she can live up to the expectations you've set up. For some girls this doesn't work (e.g. Argentine), but in Poland it's fine. Example:

Girl: "So why do you like Polish girls more than American girls?"

Me: "Well, Polish girls are more sexy, feminine, affectionate, gentle, caring, funny, they can cook better, they know how to dance, and they know how to take care of men. Did I miss anything? "

She'll smile, say no, and then maybe I'd joke with her that her heels aren't high enough, that "other Polish women I've dated" had higher heels.

Depending on where you are (and how much experience you have with the local women), I'd simply experiment with your answers and then pick the one that gives you the best response. I don't think there is an optimum answer for all girls of the world. You can imagine how different my answer would be in a place like Denmark.

I think this line can work in a lot of situations, not just on foreign girls. I like it, Roosh!

[oldnemesis]

(09-12-2011 11:43 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

"What do you think of American women?"

That's a common shit test. She is trying to measure your relationship with women in general, i.e. are you a loser who left America because you could not get laid there, or you are high value male who left America because the women there could not live up to your expectations.

The important point here is to be positive, not negative - i.e. talk about how good woman X is, not how bad woman Y is. See how well Roosh put it down.

[iknowexactly]

Thanks for the input. I'm guessing Roosh's "trash the 'murkan's" idea will work best when the locals are insecure-- to quote the great Morcheeba song, "We all love looking down." Effectiveness also probably varies inversely to self-worth of particular target.

But I'm also wary (as some warned) of looking "loserish"-- so I think I'll try something like this that has a secondary goal:

"American women are really nice, but they are working all the time like all Americans."
I do feel the majority of Murkan women try to be nice to guys they blow off, at least they are with me. It would just take about 8 times the
work here to get the kind I want.

This will enable me to keep positive but move into one of the reasons I want out of USA-- pandemic climbing and workaholism. These make the women into men and the men into wealthy, deadly competitors.

ONe thing I'm noticing with EE women is there is a subset that is made for America and are very motivated to get here-- unfortunately these are the women most constitutionally similar to the American women I am trying to escape: ambitious, valuing possessions over free time, and thrill seeking.

It's funny how they tell me how great America is and how I shouldn't live in EE when they've never been here. I've at least been in EE a few months.

What they mean, without knowing it, is that THEY should live here, and they're right: they'd get way more attention, more money, and the massive attention leap would make up for the fact of losing their mother culture-- just as it does for me when I go to EE.

So if I only trash the workaholism of 'Murkan girls, it will get us on the topic of material ambition, and help me weed out the climbers. Of course, ambitious, adventurous people made America the technologically advanced country it is, but climbing is pretty much over for me.

I want to spend a lot of time watching my hot EE wife puttering about the house doing stuff, marveling at her beauty. Ambitious, I know.

[mycleverid]

"Because, you see dear, I've impregnated them all and had to flee the country to avoid hundreds of outstanding child support orders."

[Roosh]

Quote:

But I'm also wary (as some warned) of looking "loserish"

Yes you don't want to make it seem like you failed with American women and then are running away. The feeling you want is: "I dated a lot of them, but was not satisfied."

For me, my hatred of them is so deep that any answer that doesn't reflect that would be incongruent. So I let my complaints fly. Often times they agree with me ("Yes American girls are fat... why is that?!" etc.)

[iknowexactly]

(09-15-2011 07:27 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

For me, my hatred of them is so deep that any answer that doesn't reflect that would be incongruent. So I let my complaints fly. Often times they agree with me ("Yes American girls are fat... why is that?!" etc.)

It's taken a while, but my training and the duration of my sentence so far on Earth and in Murka has beaten some compassion into me.

I actually like middle class white Murkan women in a lot of ways. I just can't get the ones I want with any reasonable ROI.

Amidst the spread of Whale-ism, there's paradoxically a subset of Murkan chix that are super athletic, and are very graceful and slim.

One of the most overwhelming erotic scenes ever for me was when I was riding my bicycle in the Berkeley Hills, and the Univ of Calif women's cross country team was training, running up there.

A crowd of 5'8" gazelles, slim like models but stronger, floating along with ethereal grace.

The only problem is I was 47. So Fate was on a bike behind me, sneering, "You can't have one, you can't have one!"

Why would they go out with a guy twice their age who hadn't even been to an elite university like they were going to?

Like Ahab says in Moby Dick,
"It is chiefly the thing behind the mask that I hate!"

[clr]

I tell em, they don't cook, they don't clean, and Latinas are better in bed, I come across trashing them because, like roosh, that's how I feel. BUT it's that they don't meet MY standards, then I tell them girls from (insert country) are so much more (insert qualities I want) and voila I told her what I expect from her.

Then often I will reinforce, Latina a, do you cook? Do you know how to give massages? Etc and then after about 3 I will tell her she is cool enough and meets my standards. Happened last night, talk about qualifying her self to me jejeje oh yeah my mom is a chef she taught me blah blah