[liberlandio]

Hello guys,

It's a fact that the introduction of social media and smartphones has given women access to unlimited men willing to date, marry, or have casual sex with them. You could argue that this tech advances benefit men as well but as Roosh has pointed out before in his article, Women Who Own iPhones Lose The Ability To Love, it isn't quite so.

At the beginning of this technological revolution there used to be two solutions:

1. Work on your game
2. Travel to South America, Asia, Eastern Europe, Africa
   

While it's true that improving your game and/or traveling to other countries are still great options for men, things seem to be getting more difficult. Even non-western girls now own smartphones and are active on whatsapp, facebook, instagram, etc.

This is how I plan to deal with the new challenges:

1. Improve my game
2. Travel to countries with the highest demand or preference for foreign men. In other words, only go to those countries where your SMV increases the most just for being a foreigner.
3. Leverage international dating sites to find girls in second or third-tier cities. These girls have more limited options and you will have less competition from other foreign men.
4. If you are religious and are looking for LTR, target religious girls within these countries. I believe religious girls have the least options.
   

What are you guys doing to succeed in the sexual market in spite of women's current tech advantage?

[the Thing]

I just came back from Philippines a couple weeks ago, smartphones are widespread and the hot ones still have hordes of dudes hitting them up constantly on their Viber, Whatsapp etc. while I'm trying to work my magic.

Couple years ago I had bought one of these just for fucks sake. I lost it while moving but I'm sure as shit going to get another one:

https://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholes...eter_Range

It had a range of around 5 meters which was more than enough for my purposes. Put that phone down and talk to me you slut.

[The Beast1]

(01-20-2016 06:47 AM)the Thing Wrote:  

I just came back from Philippines a couple weeks ago, smartphones are widespread and the hot ones still have hordes of dudes hitting them up constantly on their Viber, Whatsapp etc. while I'm trying to work my magic.

Couple years ago I had bought one of these just for fucks sake. I lost it while moving but I'm sure as shit going to get another one:

https://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholes...eter_Range

It had a range of around 5 meters which was more than enough for my purposes. Put that phone down and talk to me you slut.

Jammers are incredibly illegal, but at the same time i'm curious how this worked for you. Story time?

[the Thing]

(01-20-2016 06:54 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 06:47 AM)the Thing Wrote:  

I just came back from Philippines a couple weeks ago, smartphones are widespread and the hot ones still have hordes of dudes hitting them up constantly on their Viber, Whatsapp etc. while I'm trying to work my magic.

Couple years ago I had bought one of these just for fucks sake. I lost it while moving but I'm sure as shit going to get another one:

https://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholes...eter_Range

It had a range of around 5 meters which was more than enough for my purposes. Put that phone down and talk to me you slut.

Jammers are incredibly illegal, but at the same time i'm curious how this worked for you. Story time?

Basically you keep it in your coat pocket and flick the switch when you need it. Cell phones in a 2-3 meter radius go to "no service" or the signal level drops extremely weak that it doesn't work properly. The range is quite weak with the small ones so it's not a major disruption in communications and goes unnoticed. Usually it was only me and the girl that lost service. Maybe the girl sitting one table over, who also was (usually) with another guy and checking her phone constantly, which meant I was doing some public service as well.

One level up from this could be an IMSI catcher that only lets emergency calls through, but those devices are very expensive and usually quite bulky so I don't think so.

Also, let's not derail the thread but I'm just going to leave this here: https://secupwn.github.io/Android-IMSI-C...-Detector/

[WestIndianArchie]

Horrible mindset, this technological apocalypse thinking.

It has never been easier to fuck strangers than right now. Most of you guys eating off of Tinder and OkCupid would have been playing Duke Nukem in the early 2000's. Cats afraid to approach chicks playing candy crush? We had to befriend entire groups of people to get to the target. Now you can spam 100 attractive cute girls in your boxers watching Netflix. Even if you went to a party school you couldn't do that.

There are so many ways to improve yourself for in person game, and so many ways to optimize internet game. Most of the dating technology and tips are free. You want diet advice, body building techniques, openers, translation tools? Available at the click of a mouse.

If you aren't banging regularly in 2016, it's laziness.

And here's one, feminism and hypergamy make it easier to have sex with chicks. A chick with a good education, has a good job, and HER OWN PLACE.

What world are you guys living in where you don't see things as infinitely better?

And miss me with that women were more chaste and virginal in the 50's. Like they invented blow jobs in 1989.

WIA

[brick tamland]

Signal jamming = controlling the frame

[serpico]

I must admit i view Tinder and the like in a negative light. Not even in game terms, just that it seems so weak to me, as a man. I was chatting to some guys on my sports team the other night, about girls and pulling. Seems like none of them go out and approach in bars, some even have a negative connotation around it. One guy said 'i always found that sleazy', yet they all seem to brag about using Tinder to pull 6s on the reg. Well whoopee shit...

If you're using it and getting laid, then more power to you, but the fact that it seems to have replaced the necessity to cold approach (as it was back in the 90s) to get girls for this generation just seems sad to me. That society has become so detached from what was face-to-face interaction, that people living alone sitting around spam approaching (if you can even call it that) on an Iphone has become the new 'going out on the pull'.

[262]

OP, what do you mean by success?

IMO, I'd say what we're seeing is similar to rising wealth inequality. Call it rising poosy inequality.

5's and below? Much easier. There's proportionally more of them now than before thanks to a bunch of factors (obesity, feminism, socialism, etc). Just keep swiping right on Tinder. Not sure if you want to marry any of these though.

6's and 7's? No change. Proportionally the same as in the past. The big catch now is that you can't follow mainstream advice like our fathers and those before them did. Being a civilization-building Beta provider alone doesn't work, especially in the West (unless you're chasing women 30+, but those are effectively 5's and below in my book - you pump and dump them, you don't marry them [infertility, jadedness, cock carousel, etc]).

8's and 9's? Much harder. There's proportionally less of them now due to the same factors that make 5's abundant. In this range, I'd argue no guy is exempt from quite a bit of effort (raising his SMV, approaching quite a bit, etc).

Note that I'm not saying rising inequality is a bad thing. Put another way, it means the market is becoming more efficient at rewarding valuable contributions. Note however that these contributions are not civilization-building Beta qualities as much anymore (thanks to socialism and feminism).

Finally, note that most women aren't exactly fairing well either. The catch is it's their imperative - the Feminine one - that's actually making it worse for most of them. The Feminine Imperative is where fat-acceptance, feminism, and socialism come from. So unless they manage to shake their own imperative off, they usually end up getting pumped and dumped more than they'd like (remember, men's goal is sex with hot girls, but women's goal is commitment from powerful guys).

[Silver_Tube]

The online tools are useful for access to women, they give you opportunities to approach that you wouldn't have otherwise.

They are awful at letting people get to know each other or deciding if they are worth knowing. You want to arrange a meetup as soon as you can and do that part in person.
Aziz Ansari's "modern Romance" described our current condition in an entertaining way, but doesn't present much of a method for succeeding.

I don't do very well online, I'm tall and in fair shape but my face looks a little fucked up. I have that Michael Strahan looking front tooth gap and a Paris Hilton looking lazy eye. It isn't ugly at all but when I'm lined up next to hundreds of other dudes the girl isn't likely to pick me out from the catalog. I had surgery to lift my eyelid and it helped but didn't make it go away completely. I'm too old to get braces to fix a tooth gap.