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Why Donald Trump is Not 'Red Pill'

Why Donald Trump is Not 'Red Pill'

Quote: (01-19-2016 11:26 PM)ordinaryleastsquared Wrote:  

Its about making the world a better place for human beings to exist in, improving problems and creating efficiency and equity in the bureaucracy, and building alliances domestically and abroad to make these goals a reality.

Wrong. The president of the United States should put the interests of his nation and it's citizens above those of the rest of the world. If the US president is more concerned with the welfare of the rest of the world (in reality, more concerned with the welfare of the elite world), more than the welfare of US citizens and their future, then there is a huge problem. In fact, this is our current problem in case you haven't noticed.

I agree that the welfare of US citizens depends in part on building alliances globally, but the primary focus of the US president should always be to promote the interests of his people, not some other people, and certainly not some esoteric ideal.
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Why Donald Trump is Not 'Red Pill'

Quote: (01-25-2016 07:56 PM)poutsara Wrote:  

Quote: (01-19-2016 11:26 PM)ordinaryleastsquared Wrote:  

Its about making the world a better place for human beings to exist in, improving problems and creating efficiency and equity in the bureaucracy, and building alliances domestically and abroad to make these goals a reality.

Wrong. The president of the United States should put the interests of his nation and it's citizens above those of the rest of the world. If the US president is more concerned with the welfare of the rest of the world (in reality, more concerned with the welfare of the elite world), more than the welfare of US citizens and their future, then there is a huge problem. In fact, this is our current problem in case you haven't noticed.

I agree that the welfare of US citizens depends in part on building alliances globally, but the primary focus of the US president should always be to promote the interests of his people, not some other people, and certainly not some esoteric ideal.

If you use the world "SHOULD" that mean that you already that is not the case.

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Why Donald Trump is Not 'Red Pill'

Quote: (01-20-2016 04:25 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

7 day ban for OP.

While the ban was well-deserved, I'm looking forward to it expiring tomorrow. It could be most entertaining.

And yes, I stand by my analysis.
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Why Donald Trump is Not 'Red Pill'

The question is...Does OP still?

Quote: (01-19-2016 11:26 PM)ordinaryleastsquared Wrote:  
I stand by my analysis.
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Why Donald Trump is Not 'Red Pill'

Quote: (01-20-2016 02:29 AM)dads Wrote:  

Self-sacrifice is inherently "blue pill". Only men living in a fantasy world think they will (or should) be appreciated for their sacrifices. I don't really have an opinion on US politics either way, but there's so many other places you could have gone to post this sentiment where you might've found people who agreed with you.

What about the soldier (or wingman) who jumps on a grenade? It seems like altruism but they're really just playing the long game. The wingman hopes his buddy will reciprocate the next time they go out; the soldier hopes to further his genetic heritage by keeping alive the republic that defends his family. If he happens to survive, he might get to wear a Medal of Honor.

Making sacrifices for the good of others is very red pill. Did GBFM receive any royalties in return for the labor he invested in creating and making available to us the "ONE COC- RULE" video? I think not. Trump donated millions of dollars to his own campaign, and now is refusing all but $1 of his Presidential salary. His sacrifices are appreciated by his fans. There is no contradiction between being "red pill" and offering (seemingly) selfless acts of devotion to one's family, community, and nation.

In the end, people have to take care of themselves in order to help others anyway, so the line between selfishness and altruism can get pretty blurry. Trump had to look out for his own interests first in order to build the fortune and brand that allowed him to run a campaign that wouldn't be dependent upon special interest donations. Also, even if he's criticized for being divisive now (rather than "building alliances"), he had to cooperate with (or at least buy off) mainstream politicians like Hillary Clinton until he became powerful enough to not need her help anymore. You can't build alliances with everyone; sometimes you have to say "no" (or "you're fired") to people who would otherwise get in the way.

By the way, in contrast to the OP's statement, "Because being a 'red pill' president isn't about banging hot girls, being arrogant, and expecting the whole world to sniff your piss stains," being red pill is very much about harnessing the power of narcissism to become the man whom other men want to be, and women want to fuck. Overconfidence leads to boldness, which leads to success.

As for "creating efficiency and equity in the bureaucracy," that's an impossible task, since bureaucracies are inefficient and hierarchical by their very nature. With regard to "solving complex issues that involve multiple stakeholders and interests and realizing the world and policy is not black and white," when the Code of Federal Regulations fills more than 200 volumes, I think it's fair to say that our leaders have overcomplicated things. The principles of nature, economics, and mathematics are simple and elegant, so why not morality, politics, and legislation too.
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