[Irenicus]

OK guys, on one hand serious, and on other hand a fun topic.

On one of my online auction selling accounts, one "girl" (lets pretend she really is one) wanted to buy one of my expensive suits I am selling (Hugo Boss Selection).

She said that she is sending a courier to pick it up when I notify her that I got my money deposited on my PayPal account (SPOILER: I do not have one ). I would have to provide email, phone and address to a link she posted (carry on reading).

Since this suit is expensive shit (selling it for around 400 Euros), I asked the auction site to check her profile. It was a fake one and got closed.

Also, Paypal said that the link to their site she sent is a fake one ( a VERY, VERY good one, so you guys be careful).

Now, since it is Sunday evening, and me being little drunk and looking to do some trouble, what should I do?

The first option is to give her a fake address ( i know one street that has nothing but trash cans) and a fake Gypsy first and second name, as well as description. I would let her...wait all eternity (I would constantly delay until she loses her mind).

The second option is to give the address and details of one guy I really hate - I would be untraceable, since I would send the required information from a fake email.

And the last option is to just say to her fuck off and eat shit on e - mail, and then block her.

Why I am doing this? In my country, there is a saying " Ako ces biti djubre, onda budi djubre do kraja (if you are planning to be a disgusting piece of shit, do it properly). I am following this saying to the letter.

Also, did someone of you also have...some fun with the scammers? And what was your story?

[thisisright]

My guess is that she'll never show up. It's a guy or an organization collecting data on people. Possibly a black hat operation to crack accounts.

That being said, don't do "evil". And stop thinking that you are "untraceable". Unless you are tech-aware, you can be traced from your IP, emails, laptop fingerprints, etc...

Techies use Tor, Proxies, special Operating Systems and hardware. And they still get caught.

[Cattle Rustler]

This happens all the time on craigslist. They're mostly nigerian scammers who focus on stuff over 500 bucks.

One fucker said he worked for a large construction company and that it was a gift for his wife. Who the fuck gives dinning tables as a gift?

[Suits]

My issue with this is that you are selling off-the-rack suits for 400 Euros. No one should pay that much money for an off-the-rack suit.

Bespoke all the way.

[Irenicus]

It is one of my old ones, Suits

The other alternative is to give it away, but I am not that nice.

And besides, wasting scammers time is always fun. At least, hopefully, he will be scamming a little bit...less.

[the Thing]

I read about this a while back in a Turkish newspaper.

Someone called a 16 year old high school student, claiming that his bank account was hijacked by a terrorist organisation and he should wire all his money to them in order for the funds to be safe.

The kid replied "I have a car worth 40,000 Lira (~$16k), I bought it with a bank loan and need 2,000 Lira ($660) to release the lien"

They actually bought it and wired the money to the kid, which he used to buy an iPad that he (I suppose) promptly jerked off on.

[Paracelsus]

(01-10-2016 06:25 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  

It is one of my old ones, Suits

Goddammit! So close! I was hanging on you saying It's one of my old suits, Suits!

[Sooth]

(01-11-2016 03:43 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(01-10-2016 06:25 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  

It is one of my old ones, Suits

Goddammit! So close! I was hanging on you saying It's one of my old suits, Suits!

Missed opportunity of the year! That's how I read it in my head and had to double take because the sentence written how it is now is wrong.

[Omad]

Here's a site dedicated to scamming the scammers or scambaiting as they refer to it. They consider it a community service.

http://www.419eater.com

Quote:

So what is scambaiting? Well, put simply, you enter into a dialogue with scammers, simply to waste their time and resources. Whilst you are doing this, you will be helping to keep the scammers away from real potential victims and screwing around with the minds of deserving thieves.

It doesn't matter if you are new to this sport or a hardened veteran; if you are wasting the time of a scammer, or frustrating them in any way well that's good enough for us, and we would welcome you to join with our now very large community.

If you've got some time to waste there's some funny stuff on there.

[I DIDN'T KILL MY WIFE]

Not exactly a scammer, but I was selling some old sports pants and some dude actually had the gall to message me and ask me if I would deliver it PERSONALLY to a city 1h drive away. Told him there I can ship it to him (like 4$, peanuts) but he insisted he only wants it personally delivered.

He had a name like Ibrahim and a lot of minimal wording combined with grammar errors. So I just told him that personal delivery would include rates for my personal time which would be 60$, plus driving surcharge for gas etc. He suddenly got an acute case of sour grapes, told me the pants are ugly anyway and he doesn't want them. I added on another 30$ surcharge for delivering to a dangerous Muslim-heavy area and he told me "wee are bettter then u anway!!!1" I lol'd and was done with that episode.

It's always some Arab or Indian trying to haggle with you over 1$ on ebay

[Irenicus]

I remember that once, some girls in Chechenia were approached by ISIS on the internet and asked if they want to come join them in Syria. The girls said that that they would, but that they have no financial means to get there and asked for some money (few thousand dollars I think). ISIS wired them that money, and the girls...well...I guess they went for a shopping spree somewhere.

I will try to use a similar tactic ( fake account and bank name). Time to get creative.

[Brisey]

(01-10-2016 06:16 PM)Suits Wrote:  

My issue with this is that you are selling off-the-rack suits for 400 Euros. No one should pay that much money for an off-the-rack suit.

Bespoke all the way.

Where are you getting bespoke suits for 400 euros? What kind of material? How many visits to the tailor?
I had a made to measure done recently that took 8 weeks and didn't leave much change from 2 grand. Would have been extra grand and an extra few weeks for full bespoke, if I'd have said my budget was 400 the tailor would have shown me the door. Concerning off the rack, I've have some that I'm very happy with from Zegna, Etro, Paul Smith that cost considerably more than 400.

[Suits]

(01-12-2016 04:02 PM)Brisey Wrote:  

(01-10-2016 06:16 PM)Suits Wrote:  

My issue with this is that you are selling off-the-rack suits for 400 Euros. No one should pay that much money for an off-the-rack suit.

Bespoke all the way.

Where are you getting bespoke suits for 400 euros? What kind of material? How many visits to the tailor?
I had a made to measure done recently that took 8 weeks and didn't leave much change from 2 grand. Would have been extra grand and an extra few weeks for full bespoke, if I'd have said my budget was 400 the tailor would have shown me the door. Concerning off the rack, I've have some that I'm very happy with from Zegna, Etro, Paul Smith that cost considerably more than 400.

[BallsDeep]

^^^^Suits can you answer his questions though?

What kind of materials are you getting on your $400 bespoke suits? Can you describe the pattern making process you went through?

Since your name is Suits, I'd imagine you're not running around in polyester.

[Suits]

(01-13-2016 12:54 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  

^^^^Suits can you answer his questions though?

What kind of materials are you getting on your $400 bespoke suits? Can you describe the pattern making process you went through?

Since your name is Suits, I'd imagine you're not running around in polyester.

Actually, I pay about $120 USD for my bespoke suits.

I started building my collection in 2010. The first tailor that I experimented with turned out to be very reliable and offered very good quality. Not a large shop, although marketed at tourists and more sales staff (3-5 most days) than your average boutique sales front, I've actually ended up discovering that many of my friends here in Beijing also use this tailor. I've tried others at the same price point and been very disappointed.

My favourite suit was also one of the second batch of four that I had done in early 2010. The jacket got weekly wear most of the time and didn't show signs of wear until mid-2015. Just some change in colour along the edges of the lapels. Next time I go in for another four custom suits, I'll ask for the same material again. I definitely got my money's worth. None of my other suits from this tailor have any signs of wear or damage. I haven't even lost any buttons.

The material is slightly suspect. I'm confident that the linen they've sold me is 100%, although the quality doesn't blow the mind. It does it's job, however, looks good (in my opinion) and keeps me cool in the summer. I've had three linen suits done and really enjoy wearing all of them regularly.

The cotton has also similarly impressed, although I've only had one cotton suit done and while I loved the pants, the jacket is a bit stiff, which I understand can be normal for a cotton jacket.

Most of my 20 or so suits have been done in what my tailor's sales staff claim is a cashmere-wool blend. I've confident that they are lying, as I've had apparel experts look at the material and they say it has polyester in it. That doesn't bother me at all, however. I'd take a high quality polyester-wool blend over a low quality 100% wool material.

The important part is that the material looks great, feels great and fits my body perfectly. These suits have earned me a lot of compliments and made it possible for me to upgrade my wardrobe to a much better level than my budget would normally allow if I wasn't willing to cut some corners.

However, the tailoring is impeccable. Always a great fit, always comfortable. They'll do any options I ask for with no extra cost. Working button holes on the sleeves, ticket pockets, etc.

I purchased my entire suit collection while I was still a poor student, so I was pretty happy with what I could get for the price. Someone who has experience paying $2000 for a bespoke suit might be disappointed, but I haven't spent that much money, so I don't know what I'm missing.

Now that I'm finish university and am start to have some success in business, I can see myself investing in some bespoke suits that I have personally purchased the material for. I'll see if there is a noticeable difference. I'll still have my regular tailor do the actual tailoring, though. I trust them 100% to get the fit right.

Normally, we've always done a single fitting on one suit and then they've made the rest of the suits in the order to the same specifications. There's never been a problem or a need for alterations.

I highly recommend my tailor to anyone coming to Beijing who is on a budget and would like to give their wardrobe some punch.

[BallsDeep]

(01-15-2016 06:03 PM)Suits Wrote:  

I'm confident that the linen they've sold me is 100%, although the quality doesn't blow the mind. It does it's job, however, looks good (in my opinion) and keeps me cool in the summer. I've had three linen suits done and really enjoy wearing all of them regularly.

I'd imagine your linen suits get wrinkled constantly in that summer Beijing humidity. Do you have to get them pressed every time you wear them?

[Suits]

(01-16-2016 02:14 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 06:03 PM)Suits Wrote:  

I'm confident that the linen they've sold me is 100%, although the quality doesn't blow the mind. It does it's job, however, looks good (in my opinion) and keeps me cool in the summer. I've had three linen suits done and really enjoy wearing all of them regularly.

I'd imagine your linen suits get wrinkled constantly in that summer Beijing humidity. Do you have to get them pressed every time you wear them?

No, not even close. I have three linen suits. Two of them are lightweight and wrinkling is a bit of an issue, but I keep it at bay simply placing the suits in the proximity of a hot, steamy shower. The other is a heavier grey weave and it barely ever wrinkles.

The biggest issue is how quickly very light coloured suits get dirty. As such for summer, I shoot for lighter colours that aren't light enough to quickly show dirt. Then I'll mix in the occasional white blazer into the mix.

Also, I often pair a machine washable pair of pants with a dry-cleaning only jacket. This really cuts down on the per item costs of getting dry cleaning done. Although I do this year round, in the summer, I'll pair white pants with slightly darker jackets that are dark enough to not visibly stain within one wear. This keeps me much more comfortable and avoids constant dry-cleaning.

[DVY]

Goodness poly blends are crap. Hand feels off, loses its sheen fast, doesn't drape properly. It's also much hotter for summer. Also retains smell much more. I have a poly v neck (uniqlo) which fits me perfectly and is cheap and looks good but it needs to be washed after each wear.

Wool on the other hand esp high twist doesn't stain that much and breathes much better which helps if you rock your clothes in smoky areas.

I dry clean my suit only when visibly soiled or when it needs to be pressed

I would much rather buy barely used high end suits off eBay(new without tags) and spend the $ to tailor it probably.

I personally think bespoke is a huge waste of $ unless you are just ultra loaded and want to go that extra 10% of improvements or you have a weird body shape