[TigerTim]

I never understand why Americans complain about germany. Its for me a huge upgrade from the anglosphere, women might be not as femenine as Russian or Even polish, but they are for sure smarter,more mature and better in the long term for something that is really worth (specially compared to Russian/Ukranian and other east slavic nations), and there are just as many naturally beautiful women in Germany as there are in eastern countries, the only difference is that german women are not as femenine, thus they arent perceived as being that attractive due to their nearly unexistant non-verbal (body) language. I think It goes down the line wether you prefer the germanic or the slavic looks.. and wether you prefer playing with women's mind, and having easy targets( eastern europe/slavic or in the more extreme case SE Asia), or settling down for a woman who see yourself as an equal and who is more mature and sincere about what she thinks (german and other germanic women). Now anglo women are a completely different matters (US/UK/AUS) They are not only objectively far lower in quality than those (non-anglo) European women but they have a fake femminism movement which is carcinogenic, they claim to support equality but at the same time they do love when a man is up to pay for the date or he does all the job and she sits at home. Also the American/British femminism is way different, because it involves women not caring at all about their own appearance , getting fat, and dressing as unfemenine as possible only because men should like them anyways.

[lugubrius]

(01-09-2016 01:38 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

I never understand why Americans complain about germany. Its for me a huge upgrade from the anglosphere, women might be not as femenine as Russian or Even polish, but they are for sure smarter,more mature and better in the long term for something that is really worth (specially compared to Russian/Ukranian and other east slavic nations), and there are just as many naturally beautiful women in Germany as there are in eastern countries, the only difference is that german women are not as femenine, thus they arent perceived as being that attractive due to their nearly unexistant non-verbal (body) language. I think It goes down the line wether you prefer the germanic or the slavic looks.. and wether you prefer playing with women's mind, and having easy targets( eastern europe/slavic or in the more extreme case SE Asia), or settling down for a woman who see yourself as an equal and who is more mature and sincere about what she thinks (german and other germanic women). Now anglo women are a completely different matters (US/UK/AUS) They are not only objectively far lower in quality than those (non-anglo) European women but they have a fake femminism movement which is carcinogenic, they claim to support equality but at the same time they do love when a man is up to pay for the date or he does all the job and she sits at home. Also the American/British femminism is way different, because it involves women not caring at all about their own appearance , getting fat, and dressing as unfemenine as possible only because men should like them anyways.

Their lack of femininity is the main thing that turned me off of most of german women, i'd turn on the TV and all i would see is short haircuts and masculine body language. 70% of the German female population lacked sexual dimorphism which forms the basis of attraction.

[coverdoc]

(01-10-2016 10:44 AM)lugubrius Wrote:  

(01-09-2016 01:38 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

I never understand why Americans complain about germany. Its for me a huge upgrade from the anglosphere, women might be not as femenine as Russian or Even polish, but they are for sure smarter,more mature and better in the long term for something that is really worth (specially compared to Russian/Ukranian and other east slavic nations), and there are just as many naturally beautiful women in Germany as there are in eastern countries, the only difference is that german women are not as femenine, thus they arent perceived as being that attractive due to their nearly unexistant non-verbal (body) language. I think It goes down the line wether you prefer the germanic or the slavic looks.. and wether you prefer playing with women's mind, and having easy targets( eastern europe/slavic or in the more extreme case SE Asia), or settling down for a woman who see yourself as an equal and who is more mature and sincere about what she thinks (german and other germanic women). Now anglo women are a completely different matters (US/UK/AUS) They are not only objectively far lower in quality than those (non-anglo) European women but they have a fake femminism movement which is carcinogenic, they claim to support equality but at the same time they do love when a man is up to pay for the date or he does all the job and she sits at home. Also the American/British femminism is way different, because it involves women not caring at all about their own appearance , getting fat, and dressing as unfemenine as possible only because men should like them anyways.

Their lack of femininity is the main thing that turned me off of most of german women, i'd turn on the TV and all i would see is short haircuts and masculine body language. 70% of the German female population lacked sexual dimorphism which forms the basis of attraction.

You both make solid points, but like I said before, for players like us, there is more than enough attractive feminine germanic chicks to go around. Not once did I hit a venue or spend a day gaming and say to myself "Man it's nothing but manly looking butch chicks in here." Plus you guys are forgetting the influx of foreigners from all over.

I will be the first to admit how pleasantly surprised I was by how feminine and willingness to let a man lead some of the german girls were.. Some of my dates would try to be bossy and spout that feminist stuff and i'd say my usual "fuck that shit" to them, grab their hand, and take the interaction in the direction I wanted. Every now and then I would go out with some bossy chick only to bounce after a few minutes. The last being some big nose Bosnian chick, that date lasted all of 45 minutes and I was back home in time to catch something else.

I say just give Berlin a try, but don't be passive about it. Girls will talk if you show them you aren't phased by their "coldness." They'll fuck for sure if you show them you're a man willing to lead, and they'll definitely stop spouting that feminist//refugee bull shit if you tell them in the most genuine way: "I don't give a shit about that."

Apologies for any misspellings, running off barely any sleep

-CD

[NextStop100]

did you get cell service or just use wifi?

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I got a cell data plan for like $16 a month. had like 500mb and 20 mins of talk time. This was more than enough as literally every place has free wifi in Berlin.

-CD

[supermanshazam]

Great data sheet. I've been living here for 4 months and I can agree with pretty much everything.
IMO Alexanderplatz and the malls at Schloss are the best for daygame. Mitte is too many old people and half the Kreuzberg locals are shifty AF. Get an apartment in Kreuzberg or Prenzlauer Berg, great date spots of all varieties within walking distance.
German men are very tall and good looking, and in Berlin they're incredibly well groomed, even for Europe. Get style or lose the race.
You'll find better women in Europe than Germans, but there's definitely feminine ones and they're way taller, thinner and facially hotter than anglo saxons. Plenty of Eastern European chicks come here to study, escape their poor country etc. You'll have more fun with them.

A cultural thing to note is 20 yrs ago, German men used to go bars and clubs to party, definitely not to meet girls. And no one talks to strangers, not even "how are you?" at the supermarket... Guys are still catching up, plenty of groups go out because clubbing here is good and they are not looking to hook up. It's starting to change, it's nightlife isn't vegas yet.

A cool positive thing to mention is the amount of girls who move here to study work etc. There's an incredible amount of people coming to live and going here. So many girls floating around Alexanderplatz who recently moved here don't know many people, which makes it great timing for you to approach and instant date. And there's heaps tourists everywhere, all year, same deal.

I've heard random shit about German bitch shields, not true, pretty much it's that often Germans find it difficult to be present and are afraid to lower their armour too fast. It's armour, but not bitchy armour. Be slow and empathetic, they'll catch up, in a country where no one sees it much you would be too. Being open and full of energy refreshing for them to see like CD experienced