[KorbenDallas]

I had a chance encounter with a writer for the Washington Post a couple of months back.

Older, white, def used to be hot, but I could tell was either single or divorced, and I doubt she had a lot of kids, if at all. So basically, your typical annoying mainstream media liberal reporter.

So, I start off by insulting reporters saying they lie a lot, and then charm her because she was offended, and she starts to cool down and open up, and later I tell her its crazy how nasty twitter users on the left are towards Donald Trump.

What she then told me was very interesting. She told me every writer in the newspaper gets massive amounts of nasty hate mail. She told me its the same for other national newspapers and that many writers have hundreds of people that specifically focus on them, rebutting every article and sending in snail mail and emails by the hundreds.

I had never thought about what it would be like to be on the other side. But basically, they know we hate them and they read our arguments. Don't think for a second that every person in the media isn't 100% complicit in the crimes being committed against the native western population. They know what's going on and choose to be accomplices anyway.

They know the facts about feminism, they know our government is funding ISIS, they know the migrants are radical Islamists, and they know that you hate them. They hate you back.

[Paracelsus]

Good.

[CynicalContrarian]

I know many like to deride the 'Communist Goals' as listed in the book 'The Naked Communist' (1958).
Yet, many of the goals listed are quite uncanny for how life eventually imitated art :

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

18. Gain control of all student newspapers

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV


No. 25 - Lena Dunham anyone?

[RedPillUK]

"Don't think for a second that every person in the media isn't 100% complicit in the crimes being committed against the native western population. They know what's going on and choose to be accomplices anyway."
"They know the facts about feminism, they know our government is funding ISIS, they know the migrants are radical Islamists, and they know that you hate them."

I find this hard to believe. I think they are like the liberals you meet in everyday life, as in they strongly believe in their religion.

Are you sure she wasn't just trying to play the victim and get some sympathy from you? Maybe so you would give journalists more respect? It seems to have worked.

I would have laughed and told her they deserve it if she tried to complain that journalists get a few nasty letters and tweets to me.

[Hades]

I would argue that maybe 10-15% of the media are savvy and the rest are just useful idiots parroting the same bullshit.

[Jvramerys]

(12-04-2015 02:56 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

I know many like to deride the 'Communist Goals' as listed in the book 'The Naked Communist' (1958).
Yet, many of the goals listed are quite uncanny for how life eventually imitated art :

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

18. Gain control of all student newspapers

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV


No. 25 - Lena Dunham anyone?

Exactly that is the advantage of the left they are more strategic and patient they think in the long term 20-30 years and more. In the 30's and 40's they didn't had the power and the influence they now have, they were the minority, when the frankfurt school(cultural marxist theorist) guys arrived in the U.S. in the 30's they were a bunch of obscure people, but 30 years later they were viewed as gods in the universities. That how they operated gaining position by position everywhere in the media, universities, government etc... The right were outsmarted by the left. Of course they had the help from the elite especially financially.

They were treated like they were simple intellectuals and political theorist like any other under a democracy. They weren't they should be treated as enemy of war, because even though they didn't possess any army or weapons of destruction they ideas was equally destructive, it can bring a nation to it's knees because its nothing but destruction and that was exactly what they intended. They should have been exposed and their allies at the top as well and be treated as traitors and enemy of civilization. But that didn't happened.

[The Beast1]

Honestly, I went to a comm school and I know the type of idiots that work in todays multimedia networks. They are complicit idiots parroting the libtard line.

I frankly am looking forward to the violent culling that is coming. The media, higher education, and government are infested from the top to the bottom. A heathy purge is needed.

Personally as much as I am all for idiots like these hang, history has shown us that those who solve problems with violence tend to lose. I believe defunding and starving these idiots from working is the easiest way to kill the beast without well killing it for real.

1. For the media, force the original mandate copyrights had in the constitution. I believe the limit was something paltry like 20 years. Next, force a la carte TV pricing models. Half of Hollywood would go belly up over night.
2. Higher Ed: eliminate student loans and all government assistance for degrees outside of STEM. Take it a step further and require all universities receiving federal funds to end tenure for professors outside of STEM research roles. If they argue that tenure "protects" professors from doing risky research, say that university ethics panels have neutered any avant guard research for the past 50 years.
3. For government, eliminate all aspects of the welfare system by starting a "living wage" that every citizen gets a piece of while simultaneously laying off everyone attached to the welfare system. Basically cut the government down by 65%. The federal government needs a complete re-org. You're telling me the navy needs it's own police force (NCIS?) or that every single government agency needs its own IT department? Yeah, right.
4. End female suffrage and ban Islam. I don't care what the courts say. Self explanatory.

[H1N1]

A big part of the problem that gets lost in all of this - perhaps the major reason for the disconnect between 'left' and 'right', and something I rarely see discussed - is that our brains are fundamentally different. I have seen AnonymousBosch argue compellingly on another thread that leftists are basically insecure and aware of their own limited intelligence, and that mockery is the most effective way to 'win' against these people. I think this is true, but it goes beyond this.

It is not that leftists are 'less intelligent' necessarily, it is that due to the weight of ideology that inhibits their use of language, and their ability to think free from the encumbrance of mythology, they are not actually able to think properly. A comparison would be with the Hellenic tradition of oral history and rote learning via mythology and theatre which came to such a dramatic end with Plato and Aristotle. People underestimate the extent to which language is the most fundamental tool for thought, and consequently how, when words take on different meanings and thought is practiced through a prism of leftist ideology, the actual reality of the world that person is living in changes.

So, when you criticise a leftist, when you use reason and rational argument that strikes at Truth, you are doomed to fail precisely because your Truth can never be their truth. Quite simply, you are not arguing about the same thing. For the leftist, their ideology is a metaphysical, a priori, truth from which all thought structures and language is derived. You are, in a sense, not even speaking the same language as they are - words do not mean for them what they mean for you.

This is why mockery is so effective, as AB has pointed out. It is not, in my opinion, because they exist in a state of insecurity - quite the opposite in fact, as a group they exist in a state of fervent certainty about their world - rather it is because by mocking them you isolate them, personally, from the crutch of ideology. In doing so, they are forced to rely on the thought structures that a collectivist philosophy has given them, which are wholly inadequate for a battle of wits that aims at supremacy - an anathema to their entire reasoning process.

[Speculation]

I think that journo's either believe what they're selling or they treat it as a job and don't believe their own bullshit.

For the useful idiots, its likely that they convince themselves that the dissenters are the minority.

Think about it; Assuming all big media writers get 100's of hate mailers/arguers regardless of what they write. Their feedback channel is essentially jammed to the point where they think 'haters gonna hate' whether they're close they are to the pulse of public opinion or not.

Their 'readers don't agree with me' sense is completely oversaturated they learn to ignore it rather than considering they might be off base. Green reporters are probably even advised to take this attitude by the old hands.

Considering how painful cognitive dissonance is, it doesn't surprise me at all that they would just ignore opposing views, otherwise they would never be able to do their job. They would have a breakdown by the end of their first month.

As for the cynics who just write what their editor tells them to write, they probably just throw their reader mail in the garbage.

[Roosh]

They also read anything you send them on Twitter.

[Sherman]

Trump says 70% of the media is scum. I think he is being generous. The Washington Post is one of the worst. He is showing them how impotent they have become. They are no longer the king makers.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(12-04-2015 02:11 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

What she then told me was very interesting. She told me every writer in the newspaper gets massive amounts of nasty hate mail. She told me its the same for other national newspapers and that many writers have hundreds of people that specifically focus on them, rebutting every article and sending in snail mail and emails by the hundreds.

I had never thought about what it would be like to be on the other side. But basically, they know we hate them and they read our arguments. Don't think for a second that every person in the media isn't 100% complicit in the crimes being committed against the native western population. They know what's going on and choose to be accomplices anyway.

They know the facts about feminism, they know our government is funding ISIS, they know the migrants are radical Islamists, and they know that you hate them. They hate you back.

Korben, do you imagine that a Washington Post journalist "knows" these things to be true because they are stated in the hate mail she receives, both the email and the far more elite (ideally handwritten) snail mail?

No, LOL. What she really "knows" is that this hate mail contains the inane ramblings of Internet losers, trolls, and assorted crazies (and of course, in 99% of the cases, that's exactly right). So seeing the "facts", such as they are, stated in hundreds of hate mails only serves to make her and others like her more secure in their convictions.

What is true enough is that there is quite a bit of hatred on both sides, more than enough to go around. There are many -- many -- SJW white women and male feminists, for example, who would gladly see me beheaded ISIS-style for certain things I've written on this forum, if they were to read them; nothing political, just certain descriptions of pussy and what I think about it. And it is a lucky thing that, for various reasons, these people remain largely committed to non-violence and to operating through legal and professional channels. If that were ever to change, the world would rapidly become a strange and interesting place.

[KorbenDallas]

She didn't seem so comfortable in her convictions Lizard.

I see what your getting at and I think this is how these people viewed the population a short while ago circa 2009 after Obama was elected. With scorn and supreme pleasure that they had "won".

But this was not the case in my interaction. I had left a tech gathering and was at a hipsterish place of my city and she was alone drinking wine and eating some appetizer.

She was attracted to me somewhat, but I am younger than her. Stating that I was a Donald Trump supporter openly, it didn't really hurt my her perception of me in her eyes, she didn't look down on me. It was sort of the other way around. I looked down on her.

She was a former beauty who had chosen this "career" and she seemed more worn out than anything.


Her telling me about the hate mail wasn't in a dismissive type of way concerning losers on the internet. It was more a genuine vibe of fear.

This was after I complemented the Post for being better since Bezos bought it and we talked about the changes.


Yes, she did seem sure in her convictions in so much as she said that she doesn't think the media is that biased, but I was very persuasive concerning the bias in reporting the refugee crisis in Europe, but she claimed that money is drying up for foreign correspondents so they have to rely on simply what everyone else rights.


In our interaction, a crazy homeless person wandered into the restaurant and was headed straight for her. I cut him off and handled the situation. She seemed even happier after that, sad to go to her engagement she was going to.



So, in conclusion, I got a glimpse of the life of the "establishment hack". It wasn't anything to be envious of. I doubt she's married and she didn't look happy, just worn down, and afraid.


Yes, I can't imagine the emailing haters are viewed as "winners" by these people, but it is becoming harder for these people to ignore the realities of the instability they have wrought. They can't really express it with words or go against the narrative, but I felt beneath her liberal veneer, was a terrified woman who probably admits to her shrink she regrets a lot of her choices.


She may have viewed the hatemailers with derisive pleasure a short time ago, but she relayed that her collegues and her are feeling genuine fear and discomfort from those who sit around and send them negative mail. The voices of discontent are legion, and members of this board are relatively moderate compared to the private opinions of many of the masses.


That's the truly crazy thing to think about. This board is moderate, for both sides.

[Barron]

(12-04-2015 04:56 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

I frankly am looking forward to the violent culling that is coming. The media, higher education, and government are infested from the top to the bottom. A heathy purge is needed.

Personally as much as I am all for idiots like these hang, history has shown us that those who solve problems with violence tend to lose. I believe defunding and starving these idiots from working is the easiest way to kill the beast without well killing it for real.

Heh, wish I could say the same.
For perpetuating a system of degeneracy and hedonism, for being cowards and going along with the will of an overlord, most of all for all the destruction, misery, and psychological torment they've proudly taken part in, I wouldn't object to every last one of these minions being lined up against a wall and shot. And that's getting off easy.

[N°6]

I write this dispassionately without any cold blood running through my veins but there will be a time when media barons and functionaries will be seen as legitimate targets by a traditionalist backlash.

Look how Putin took power after the Russian media and oligarchs backed the Soros friendly drunk Boris Yeltsin. The media is part of the control system MAtrix.

You can continually single out the same group as the most racist, bigoted, Christian fundamentalist, sexist for only so long until that group starts to realise that being the tolerant cuck makes wives and her victim lovers hate it all the more.

There was another twitter hullabaloo in the UK this week involving a bloated and effeminate looking male MP. He went into victim mode after someone tweeted knife emojis to him after he voted for air strikes in Syria which will inevitably smash up women and children. A more sickening case of passive-aggressive victimhood I have never seen. If you are big enough to contribute to infanticide from the safety of the parliament, then you better brace yourself for unsavoury tweets - especially when the same parliament has been complicit with importing the very same people who are being bombed to pieces.

[Glaucon]

Being in the wrong side of history is never easy...