[Jagnum]

I’ve been thinking a lot about a post on RooshV.com about what Roosh would teach his son. He mentions how he would avoid the conventional education curriculum. Instead, he’d teach subjects like woodworking, exploring nature and music. However, the most important of all the subjects to teach his son would be the scientific method—the process in which one gathers data, draws insights and shares discoveries.

With that in mind, I’m seeking to gather data on successful text conversations and text game, successful in the sense they result in a date (or a bang). To gather how guys operate from that first text until the date. Once there are 10 – 20 replies, I’ll begin to piece together insights and share. After the first reply, I’ll post one of my own.

Texting conversations:

• Pick one conversation.
• Post it in full. Begin with the first text up until the moment she meets you for the date.
• Use either screenshots or a written transcription. It’s fine if this occurs over multiple days.
• Don’t post a partial conversation.
• Briefly give context. Where did you meet her? What’d you talk about? How much interest did you perceive from her?
• It doesn’t have to be a first date. It can be setting up a second date so long as you give context for how the first date went.
  

The other goal is to create a thread for complete text conversations. I'm aware there are threads with shorter text exchanges scattered throughout this forum. While those are somewhat helpful, I think having a chance to see complete text exchanges will be more useful from which to learn and discover insights. I know it can be time consuming and may take 20 - 30 mins to write and redact a full text exchange. (If there’s private info and you prefer to PM or email me, I’ll keep it private and only include any general findings in the analysis.)

[Mess O.]

This is an excellent idea, and I'm looking forward to seeing the thread evolve.

[Indy]

Great idea! I'll work on putting together a few conversations with different girls from opener to meet where it resulted in a bang. Looking forward to seeing the data and using it to improve my overall text game.

[heavy]

I'm unsure on this. I like the idea of the thread, but whenever I post text exchanges, I have *huge* chunks of missing data / communication that happens outside of text. This can be anywhere from face to face conversation, which is by far most common and most effective, to large spaces of silence where I have on multiple occasions had chics text me months later saying they wanted to hang out (presumably because no more boyfriend or fuck-buddy).

I'm not trying to kill a thread idea, just offering up the question...

Do you want us to fill in the huge chunks of information in between texts?

[kaotic]

Co-Sign with Heavy, you can some super alpha mega texter, but how's your game in person ?

More details are needed such as a detailed date report, and bang report as well.

Also, you'll more than likely have censor names, pictures, locations, etc.

[HankMoody]

[HankMoody]

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[Mess O.]

^^^ Nice.

[ryanf]

Good once she's hooked, I hope someone posts something during the earlier phase.

[HankMoody]

(10-20-2015 07:57 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

Good once she's hooked, I hope someone posts something during the earlier phase.

Very first text exchange with currently girl I'm dating, not sure if this is helpful. She's a solid 8.5.

Quick background - we met on OkCupid. I sent her like 4 messages and then was like "u seem cool, lets grab drinks this week at [bar]. whats ur cell #?" (I'd have to dig the actual exchange off OKC).

This exchange ensued over about two weeks. It's my initial text after getting digits from OKC, up to the bang.

[I pull digits on OKC. We text back and forth here and there prior to the first date]

Hank Moody:
yo ladycakes, it’s hank. wed is no good for me because i have a thing but thursday looks good
Ladycakes:
Cool cool. Yea, Thursday works better for me too. I've actually been to [bar]. Let's meet there around 8 thursday?
Hank Moody:
sounds like a plan man
Ladycakes:
Cool dude
So can we say 8:15-8:30ish. I'm gonna workout from 6:30-7:30. I don't want to rush tho when I get done
Hank Moody:
sounds good. i have to get back in at crossfit this week. the winter killed me.
Ladycakes:
You like crossfit? I've done it once or twice
Hank Moody:
i love it. great community and workout. the hard part is scheduling it and then getting in the gym.
Ladycakes:
True. I just had to switch trainers
My schedule just didn't make sense
How long have you done Crossfit?
Hank Moody:
started in 2013. got really hardcore about it in 2014. this year has been rough w the weather and a few jury trials. i am out celebrating w a client and its taking every bit of discipline not to down a plate of tater tots.
Ladycakes:
Dude...gimme a tot
That's good. I like to workout so I can eat whatever I want
Hank Moody:
File Transfer: IMG_0442.JPGgoddammit.  

File Transfer: IMG_0442.JPGgoddammit.  

[Hank sends a picture of tater tots, with a hot chick in the background]

Ladycakes:
Haha. Good for you!
Let ya know when I'm on my way

[we met up this night in person for the first time]

Hank Moody:
sounds good. i’m still in my 7pm meeting. clients were running late. gotta get changed. i’m not going to [bar] in a suit
Ladycakes:
Haha. Is 9 good then?
Hank Moody:
perfect
on my way
Ladycakes:
In a cab
Here
I got a booth
File Transfer: IMG_5752.JPG
My "I'm almost drunk face" [she sends me a selfie]

[Later that night after we ate dinner, we proceed to hook up and make out in a cab. I get home and get this text]

Ladycakes:
Thanks again. I had a blast
Hank Moody:
cool
Ladycakes:
I still want that unicorn from on the wall.
Hank Moody:
hahaha it's going in my office.

[next day]

Hank Moody:
come out in [my part of the city] tonight
also, [my law partner] got to examine witnesses today in court. it was epic. i cant stop laughing watching him clown them lawyers.
im gonna call u ladycakes mcfancypants from now on

[a few hours later she responds]

Ladycakes:
Hankpants
Whatchya got going on in [your part of the city]?
Hank Moody:
that’s mr. hank fancypants, esquire. we’re probably going to hit up quizzo and karaoke. then one of my buddies is a bartender at [another bar] because meat [hot female friend working at an upscale BBQ joint]
Ladypants:
I LOVE [that bar]
Hank Moody:
it’s like three blocks from my house. uber over. we're all here

[we meet up, have drinks, and then bangs ensue. this has been going on since February].

Moral of the story, looking back on it.

1. Texting isn't what generates attraction, it's all the shit in between
2. You can only fuck shit up via text. I would have probably dialed it back even more in hindsight.
3. LTR game is different than initially getting the bang. My insanely laconic game probably would not have resulted in a bang.

Most importantly... text messaging is a reflection of how much she likes you. You don't generate attraction with text messages. You can fuck up attraction, though. Keep them short, simple, stupid, and non-dramatic.

[Jagnum]

^^^

You've got a chill vibe while texting. If you actually nicknamed her "ladycakes" that's good.

Dropping bait about crossfit and she bit. Good sign.

I wonder what those first few messages looked like on OKC. Again, once she agreed to grab drinks, it's then a matter of logistics. But what I like that you still kept it conversational and interesting, telling her what you were doing at that moment, joking that it takes you "every bit of discipline to not eat a tater tot" instead of saying something boring like, "I'm at a dinner now. I can meet you at 9 pm". Good work dude.

[LINUX]

At the end of your study, you'll come to conclusion that it doesn't really matter what you text.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to this:

"What is it about you, that will make her friends envious of her?"

Women don't do the things they do to impress men, they do the things they do to impress other women.

No one is going to be envious of her because she fucked a guy who could text well.

[Jagnum]

(10-20-2015 11:34 AM)heavy Wrote:  

I'm unsure on this. I like the idea of the thread, but whenever I post text exchanges, I have *huge* chunks of missing data / communication that happens outside of text. This can be anywhere from face to face conversation, which is by far most common and most effective, to large spaces of silence where I have on multiple occasions had chics text me months later saying they wanted to hang out (presumably because no more boyfriend or fuck-buddy).

I'm not trying to kill a thread idea, just offering up the question...

Do you want us to fill in the huge chunks of information in between texts?

Totally reasonable critique, Heavy. My interest is keeping this thread focused on text examples from first contact to a meet.

My recommendation to post is to give us context, maybe a paragraph for how you met her and what her interest level was. This is so that men here can "put themselves in your shoes". It's a best practice I learned from WIA when it comes to sharing on this forum.

The convos in which she texts you a few months later may not be best to include. Perhaps you have one example to share in which you made an approach, got a number, had some text chat and went on date in a reasonable time afterwards.