I discovered the red pill about two years ago and have been a reader of this forum for about 1 1/2 years. I've read much of the literature (Bang!, The Mystery Method, Heartiste, etc) and have been applying the principles to my work and social life, and I've really seen a difference. I'm starting this thread to log my experiences applying these principles to specific situations, including approaches of course. I'm a white American over 40 years of age.
I will start out with a story of how I applied the concepts to social circle game, with very near success. The happened relatively recently.
In the community where I live there was a fitness trainer, crossfit instructor at the local gym. She is hispanic and close to my age. Like many women who are fitness fanatics, she has successfully kept the wall at arms length, with a really tight, muscular, lean body and skin that's still fairly tight and wrinkle/crows-feet free. Think Maria Kang with bigger boobs. I never really talked to her that much, but our paths crossed often because she worked at the gym I went to. She moved away a couple of years ago.
I looked her up on Facebook awhile ago and messaged her something. I don't remember what I said, but it was something like, "Did you ever run that marathon you were thinking of running?" or something like that. She didn't answer for several months, so I thought she was ignoring me. I didn't send a follow-up email, because I knew that would communicate thirst. Awhile later, she messaged me back and said, "Sorry, I didn't see this until today because I access Facebook on my smartphone and it's difficult to notice the "Other" folder." We texted for a few minutes and it came up naturally in conversation to "friend" each other, so we did.
I was careful after that to follow game principles. I don't post a bunch of crap to my Facebook wall and don't have much personal information about me in my profile, and I don't check it very often. I only use it for messaging friends. When she would post stuff on her wall, I was careful to give her "likes" that were few and far between. When she would post attention-whoring photos of herself in tight fitness clothes, I never gave a like to those. If she texted me, I would always wait twice as long to respond and keep my texts shorter than hers. She had plenty of orbiters who would drop platitudes to her in English and Spanish. I never joined in with that.
One day, she complained that her legs were sore from some workout and she had to give a class that day. Several of her orbiters immediately posted stuff like, "Que lastima que las piernas tan bonitas como las tuyas sientan dolor (what a shame legs as beautiful as yours are experiencing pain)" and crap like that. I posted, "Suck it up and get it done." She immediately "liked" my post and thanked me for it. She didn't give any likes to any of the comments she had gotten from the other guys, so I knew I was in. I made sure my communication with her continued to be irregular, short, and straightforward. I messaged her in Spanish sometimes, because I've found that Spanish women enjoy it when a white guy talks to them in their language.
I was traveling for work to her city and messaged her and asked to meet. She immediately said yes. I won't go into the boring details, but she had to bend over backwards to make time to see me. I didn't make much effort to go out of my way to make it easier to see me, because I was using it as a compliance test. I also asked her to dress up because I would be dressed up. She complied and showed up in a slinky, tight dress and high-heels. She had her husband drive her and drop her off at the hotel I was staying. I took her to the hotel bar.
I ran the routines that I've read about on this forum: question game, love test, etc and escalated the kino by touching her arm and lower back when I emphasized certain points in the conversation. I asked her to go for a walk to get some fresh air, then interlocked arms as we walked. I suggested going by my room to see the view or something like that, and then kissed her in the elevator, but broke it off first.
In the room I poured her a glass of wine and started pushing the make out immediately. Long story short, we made out and groped each other/dry humped for about 30 minutes, but she stopped short, saying that she had never cheated on her husband before and she was too nervous to go through with it.
I tried some LMR-overcoming techniques like the "That's ok, we don't have to have sex tonight" and a mild freeze-out (I checked my texts) but when we reengaged she would still stop me when I tried to put my hand in her panties. I decided that it wasn't going to happen and figured it would be best if I were the one to end the interaction as it would make me look non-needy and hopefully leave her wanting more. Also, I had another date lined up for later that night. I walked her to the hotel lobby door and her husband picked her up to take her home.
Correct application of game principles almost scored me a bang with a woman who was being chased by a lot of dudes. I didn't spend too much time chasing her, as I had other spinning plates that I'll talk about in future posts. The fact that I didn't get the bang tells me that my game wasn't quite tight enough. I'm not sure what I could have done differently, but hopefully I'll get better at it in the future.
I will start out with a story of how I applied the concepts to social circle game, with very near success. The happened relatively recently.
In the community where I live there was a fitness trainer, crossfit instructor at the local gym. She is hispanic and close to my age. Like many women who are fitness fanatics, she has successfully kept the wall at arms length, with a really tight, muscular, lean body and skin that's still fairly tight and wrinkle/crows-feet free. Think Maria Kang with bigger boobs. I never really talked to her that much, but our paths crossed often because she worked at the gym I went to. She moved away a couple of years ago.
I looked her up on Facebook awhile ago and messaged her something. I don't remember what I said, but it was something like, "Did you ever run that marathon you were thinking of running?" or something like that. She didn't answer for several months, so I thought she was ignoring me. I didn't send a follow-up email, because I knew that would communicate thirst. Awhile later, she messaged me back and said, "Sorry, I didn't see this until today because I access Facebook on my smartphone and it's difficult to notice the "Other" folder." We texted for a few minutes and it came up naturally in conversation to "friend" each other, so we did.
I was careful after that to follow game principles. I don't post a bunch of crap to my Facebook wall and don't have much personal information about me in my profile, and I don't check it very often. I only use it for messaging friends. When she would post stuff on her wall, I was careful to give her "likes" that were few and far between. When she would post attention-whoring photos of herself in tight fitness clothes, I never gave a like to those. If she texted me, I would always wait twice as long to respond and keep my texts shorter than hers. She had plenty of orbiters who would drop platitudes to her in English and Spanish. I never joined in with that.
One day, she complained that her legs were sore from some workout and she had to give a class that day. Several of her orbiters immediately posted stuff like, "Que lastima que las piernas tan bonitas como las tuyas sientan dolor (what a shame legs as beautiful as yours are experiencing pain)" and crap like that. I posted, "Suck it up and get it done." She immediately "liked" my post and thanked me for it. She didn't give any likes to any of the comments she had gotten from the other guys, so I knew I was in. I made sure my communication with her continued to be irregular, short, and straightforward. I messaged her in Spanish sometimes, because I've found that Spanish women enjoy it when a white guy talks to them in their language.
I was traveling for work to her city and messaged her and asked to meet. She immediately said yes. I won't go into the boring details, but she had to bend over backwards to make time to see me. I didn't make much effort to go out of my way to make it easier to see me, because I was using it as a compliance test. I also asked her to dress up because I would be dressed up. She complied and showed up in a slinky, tight dress and high-heels. She had her husband drive her and drop her off at the hotel I was staying. I took her to the hotel bar.
I ran the routines that I've read about on this forum: question game, love test, etc and escalated the kino by touching her arm and lower back when I emphasized certain points in the conversation. I asked her to go for a walk to get some fresh air, then interlocked arms as we walked. I suggested going by my room to see the view or something like that, and then kissed her in the elevator, but broke it off first.
In the room I poured her a glass of wine and started pushing the make out immediately. Long story short, we made out and groped each other/dry humped for about 30 minutes, but she stopped short, saying that she had never cheated on her husband before and she was too nervous to go through with it.
I tried some LMR-overcoming techniques like the "That's ok, we don't have to have sex tonight" and a mild freeze-out (I checked my texts) but when we reengaged she would still stop me when I tried to put my hand in her panties. I decided that it wasn't going to happen and figured it would be best if I were the one to end the interaction as it would make me look non-needy and hopefully leave her wanting more. Also, I had another date lined up for later that night. I walked her to the hotel lobby door and her husband picked her up to take her home.
Correct application of game principles almost scored me a bang with a woman who was being chased by a lot of dudes. I didn't spend too much time chasing her, as I had other spinning plates that I'll talk about in future posts. The fact that I didn't get the bang tells me that my game wasn't quite tight enough. I'm not sure what I could have done differently, but hopefully I'll get better at it in the future.
