[quino_16]

(10-02-2015 01:08 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

Rodgers killed six persons. They were 19,19,20,20,20 and 22 years old. I can't imagine him doing this with his fists or a stick.
He also injured 13 more. Breivik shot 69 persons.
It is simply way more difficult if not impossible to do this without a gun.

I know that a ban on gun would not make the situation safer but I think if there were no guns it would be safer.

Eliot Roger stabbed three of his victims to death. He didn't use a gun for those three victims. As for the 13 he injured, they were hit by his car while he was trying to get way.

If you don't believe me, here is the police report

Your entire argument - "we need less guns to prevent violence" - is out of touch reality.

Humans are prone to violence. We have been killing each other since day one.

[SunW]

(10-02-2015 05:43 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  

Eliot Roger stabbed three of his victims to death. He didn't use a gun for those three victims. As for the 13 he injured, they were hit by his car while he was trying to get way.

If you don't believe me, here is the police report

Your entire argument - "we need less guns to prevent violence" - is out of touch reality.

Humans are prone to violence. We have been killing each other since day one.

Cars and trucks could easily be far more destructive as weapons than guns. If they actually ban guns, I'd expect that we'll see a lot more McVeigh-type events, which will be far worse and far more destructive. A pyscho's gonna pscyho.

This is similar to the US' dumb drug war that actually created meth, a far worse drug than cocaine and marijuana. If they had just allowed teenagers to retard their brain with cocaine and company, meth wouldn't exist.

There is only one way to stop evil, as we saw in Nazi Germany. You must arm good to the point that good can stop evil. Trying to disarm evil will only disarm good and evil will rule. I promise you that this paragraph will always be true for all time; good must be armed to stop evil. Evil will never disarm because evil doesn't obey "rules."

[eradicator]

(10-02-2015 01:08 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

Rodgers killed six persons. They were 19,19,20,20,20 and 22 years old. I can't imagine him doing this with his fists or a stick.
He also injured 13 more. Breivik shot 69 persons.
It is simply way more difficult if not impossible to do this without a gun.

I know that a ban on gun would not make the situation safer but I think if there were no guns it would be safer.

Not even sure what you are talking about here, rogers killed half of his victims with a knife.

[Sexus]

I hate to say this, but we are essentially talking about a failure on the part of local SJW's to identify said beta and fuck him up (and down, and sideways, and left and right -- literally). It's Loser Game, but it would have saved lives.... and he would have loved it and not gone out and killed people and ruin a vet's life and his son's birthday and upbringing. He would have been given "hope"... if only for a short while. It's time for SJW's to start doing the good work!

[kaotic]

(10-02-2015 06:36 PM)Sexus Wrote:  

I hate to say this, but we are essentially talking about a failure on the part of local SJW's to identify said beta and fuck him up (and down, and sideways, and left and right -- literally). It's Loser Game, but it would have saved lives.... and he would have loved it and not gone out and killed people and ruin a vet's life and his son's birthday and upbringing. He would have been given "hope"... if only for a short while. It's time for SJW's to start doing the good work!

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic....but how would an SJW help identify this "beta" ? How would that even help ?

[Sexus]

(10-02-2015 06:40 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic....but how would an SJW help identify this "beta" ? How would that even help ?

Partially sarcastic, partially honest. The news reports show plenty of "warning signs" that were coddled together in the aftermath -- in the real world and not just on myspace and 4chan. The idea is for loser SJW to identify wierd/strange beta and befriend and fuck his violent nonsense away. He was obviously frustrated sexually. Of course, it goes without saying that if he was serious about his violence, and could not let it go or be tempered by heavy women who like to talk, then he'd probably be thrown in jail (due to some dv thing) rather than shooting up a college campus and killing people. The most positive outcome would be for him to just accept his lot in life and remain sat on by the particular SJW heavy. No harm, no foul... and no one dead or in jail. And then... this conversation will never happen again.

[AnonymousBosch]

(10-02-2015 05:13 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

While the media will play this up for days, not one person made mention of this tonight.

In the end, no one cares.

It's 2015 - men in dresses are legally-considered women; heterosexual marriage is an oppressive institution but gay marriage is apparently about love; looking at or talking to a woman is equivalent to raping her; dismembering baby parts for profit causes no widespread outrage or change in government policy whatsoever; publicly-talking about grooming your sister for sex allows you to be friends with the president's daughter and gets you invited to interview the next would-be Liberal President; the media starts normalising pedophilia and it's the one time Liberals decide a discussion needs to be framed rationally and not emotionally; and the nine women I know who have had babies in the last four years have all required teams of medical experts to make the pregnancy happen.

What's one more atrocity, really? I can't even get fired up on this topic.

[Chauncey]

(10-02-2015 03:42 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 11:39 PM)Sexus Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 11:03 PM)armint Wrote:  

... and even for a tough, trained fighter that means keeping in mind the potential aftermath of "trying to play cowboy" and not getting mixed up in that shit.

That is where training comes into play. You are not worrying about aftermath. You are saving your people and/or trying to destroy the enemy's objectives. There is no other more noble cause... aside of being in the real fight.

Relevant and breaking: one of the civvies did try and stop the dude.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...3dad6bc3f9

That said, surprise surprise, said civvie was a US Army veteran, in his first week of classes. Took five bullets. Will have to learn to walk again, but tried to stop the guy going into one of the classrooms.

Chris Mintz gofund me page
It was at $18k this morning when I first saw it, now it is up to almost $400k from 12000 people. Good to see that his recovery will be taken care of financially.



Despite the lunatics in this world today there are still a lot of good people out there.

[Quintus Curtius]

(10-02-2015 06:56 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(10-02-2015 05:13 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

While the media will play this up for days, not one person made mention of this tonight.

In the end, no one cares.

It's 2015 - men in dresses are legally-considered women; heterosexual marriage is an oppressive institution but gay marriage is apparently about love; looking at or talking to a woman is equivalent to raping her; dismembering baby parts for profit causes no widespread outrage or change in government policy whatsoever; publicly-talking about grooming your sister for sex allows you to be friends with the president's daughter and gets you invited to interview the next would-be Liberal President; the media starts normalising pedophilia and it's the one time Liberals decide a discussion needs to be framed rationally and not emotionally; and the nine women I know who have had babies in the last four years have all required teams of medical experts to make the pregnancy happen.

What's one more atrocity, really? I can't even get fired up on this topic.

It's posts like this that make me love AB that much more.



You guys need to reread his post, and remember that AB actually does look like this photo (below) in real life. No bullshit, I am not kidding. AB is the Humongous:

   

[Sexus]

(10-02-2015 07:36 PM)Chauncey Wrote:  

Chris Mintz gofund me page

Thanks for the link! Everyone who can spare the cash should support this vet's recovery! He did a great fucking deed and probably off-set the shooter for when the cops took him down.

[GlobalMan]

I'd address the anti-gun morons, but my warning level is too damn high

[username]

[Wutang]

^ Looks like media outlets are starting to pick up on a lot of the lingo, the above video mentioned "Chad" and "normies" while the CNN video posted a few pages back talked about "beta males".

[El Chinito loco]

(10-02-2015 10:30 PM)Wutang Wrote:  

^ Looks like media outlets are starting to pick up on a lot of the lingo, the above video mentioned "Chad" and "normies" while the CNN video posted a few pages back talked about "beta males".

The taiwanese animator guys are not all comprised of fobs. They are actually pretty red pill and have a pretty good understanding of satire especially with regards to politics and U.S. culture. They just make videos in this style because it's funny.

[Blackhawk]

I'm surprised these dorks are still standing around holding guns in their hands.

There's been much speculation about when military grade drones will be used for by a nutbag for attacks on the homeland. Military's been using them for years in the middle east. Only a matter of time until some well financed nutbag brings that technology home and starts to snipe random people.

Main limitations against this:
Currently military drones need a lot of maintenance per hour of flight time.
Access to spare parts to enable maintenance for a stolen military grade drone are non-existent.
Military drones, which are damn loud, don't get close enough to use civilian grade ammunition. They instead use military-grade only rockets, generally carrying only 3 per flight.

Still, if you're in an active shooter situation, don't forget to look up --and look for the fucker with a console nearby to beat the shit out of. It's only a matter of time before someone juryrigs a homemade shooting drone with street level shit.

[Captainstabbin]

No surprise that he turned out to be a Satanist of some kind. It's usually not found out this quickly, and almost never reported, but most of these shooters are.

So, we have a satanic shooter targeting Christians - which flag do we ban? Or will the media completely ignore that part and focus only on gun control?

Quote:

“[He started] asking people one by one what their religion was. ‘Are you a Christian?’ he would ask them, and if you’re a Christian, stand up. And they would stand up and he said, ‘Good, because you’re a Christian, you are going to see God in just about one second.’ And then he shot and killed them,” Stacy Boylen, whose daughter was wounded at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore., told CNN.

Quote:

Two officials familiar with the contents of the note say 26-year-old Christopher Harper Mercer, who was killed in after an exchange of gunfire with police Thursday at Umpqua Community College, wrote that he would be "welcomed in Hell and embraced by the devil."

[Brodiaga]

(10-02-2015 10:07 PM)username Wrote:  

What the fuck did i just watch?

[FireStarter]

(10-02-2015 10:35 PM)Blackhawk Wrote:  

It's only a matter of time before someone juryrigs a homemade shooting drone with street level shit.

Already done. With only slightly more engineering this could be an effective and literal killing machine:

[El Chinito loco]

(10-02-2015 10:45 PM)FireStarter Wrote:  

(10-02-2015 10:35 PM)Blackhawk Wrote:  

It's only a matter of time before someone juryrigs a homemade shooting drone with street level shit.

Already done. With only slightly more engineering this could be an effective and literal killing machine:

It doesn't even need to be that sophisticated. A crazy man could outfit a drone with infrared cam and then use it as a spotter at night to snipe people from far away with a scoped hunting rifle with suppressor. Boar hunters already do this and it's very effective.

Of course if a consumer drone has the carrying capacity to be modified with a gun, ammo, and firing mechanism then it can also be modified into an airborne IED. A true madman with some bomb making skills (think unabomber) could really do some damage. Not to mention it doesn't take much explosive to fuck up the wing flaps of parked planes or damage helicopters on an airfield.

[AnonymousBosch]

(10-02-2015 07:42 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

It's posts like this that make me love AB that much more.

It sounds jaded, but, we've been here, multiple times.

I know the political and media institutions have been so thoroughly-subverted that they'll be completely-inept at their original functions: to lead a nation effectively, or to give a factual, impartial account of events.

I know the responses of the media, the politicians and the social commentators before they even open their mouths: frame the discussion in a way further their particular personal agenda.

I don't expect any deep insight or new angle.

Shit, I was digitising old demo tapes a few months back and found a terrible song I wrote in 1993 about the media's reaction to the James Bulger case, (since was the Gen X style at the time). I rhymed 'believe' with 'Chucky 3', which should clue you in on how bad it is. Why? Because the media used the murder to further its own agenda: calling for the banning of 'video nasties' which were 'turning kids into killers', ('Doom' was still 10 months from release). The government then used this outrage to further their agenda.

Which meant, despite investigations like this:

Quote:

During the police investigation, it emerged that Child's Play 3 was one of the films that Jon Venables' father had rented in the months prior to the killing, but it was not established that Jon had ever watched it.

and this:

Quote:

A Merseyside detective said "We went through something like 200 titles rented by the Venables family. There were some things you or I wouldn't want to see, but nothing – no scene, or plot, or dialogue – where you could put your finger on the freeze button and say that influenced a boy to go out and commit murder."

and this:

Quote:

Inspector Ray Simpson of Merseyside Police commented: "If you are going to link this murder to a film, you might as well link it to The Railway Children".

... the Media and the Government used the outrage to help pass the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act of 1994, which was about the restriction and reduction of existing rights in the UK, and the criminalisation of previously-civil offences. It was amended by the Crime and Disorder Act of 1998, which took away even more rights. If you wonder why the UK is a police state, it's all in those two Acts, and it just took a media circus to fan the outrage to get it passed.

Things still play out the same. On cue: Guns, Right Wingers, White Supremacists, Toxic masculinity, 4 Chan, Gamergate were all blamed by the usual suspects, depending on their particular agenda, all before the bodies were cold.

This is simply what they do, and it's pointless complaining about it.

I don't expect a cat to bark, I don't expect a car to fly, and I don't expect someone 20 years younger and 3 standard deviations less intelligent than me to offer me any insight into any topic whatsoever, particularly when they have no work ethic or any commitment to journalistic standards.

They don't believe men and women are different. They don't believe obese people are unhealthy. They don't believe women should have children when they're young and fertile. They don't believe in reality. Why the hell would I expect anything but borderline-retarded dribbling during any outrage cycle? There is nothing to be learnt except that crazy people are crazy, and if the crazy are either gunning down people in public, they're giving their useless opinions in print or on television.

It's easier to just accept the fact that this is the society we live in, and that every power structure around you is incompetent, so train yourself to handle conflict, and be ever vigilant. I grew under the cloud of nuclear war, expecting to have - at best - a three minute warning.

[spokepoker]

If someone had been conceal carrying there, and had killed this guy before he could do more damage, that person would be facing prison time.
It's a felony to carry in a "Gun-Free Zone", didn't anyone tell Mr. Harper that?

[Akula]

Just so wrong how the mainstream media are covering this shooting.

After the Dylan Roof shooting we got the "ban the confederate flag" storyline and endless reports about "racism" in America.

In the Oregon example - in a case where a non-white guy shot up to 10+ Christian whites & killed 9 people (after asking them to stand up and identify themselves as Christians at a university) all we get is "we need more gun control" from Obama, CNN, etc.

Here's what I woke up to today on CNN's website:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/02/politi...index.html

Notice how there is nothing about the religious angle, or the potential for black on white racism and the connection to the SC killer, or the obvious fact that the shooter was crazy, single mom with a strange upbringing, was discharged from the Army, Aspergers, on pharmaceutical drugs, etc. No it's all about guns. All part of a politicized agenda. If only guns would go away everything would be just fine and dandy!!

Can you imagine if the shooter had been white and picked out Muslims or blacks in a school and then systematically killed them? Would the "Islamophobia" or "racism" coverage ever end? What other "oppressive white culture" symbols would they target? But in this case they say NOTHING (!).

It's literally outrageous. The "progressive" mainstream media bend over backwards not to make obvious connections and parallels, and to blame it all on guns. As if this guy was just a normal guy who saw a gun and then went nuts and started shooting.

Does anyone outside the far-left "progressive" media and the left in general really think that by somehow banning guns that these crazy people won't do as much, if not more damage? Especially after carefully planning all these attacks out? Honestly, it's all part of a political agenda at this point.

[Going strong]

(10-03-2015 04:38 AM)Akula Wrote:  

Just so wrong how the mainstream media are covering this shooting.

After the Dylan Roof shooting we got the "ban the confederate flag" storyline and endless reports about "racism" in America.

In the Oregon example - in a case where a non-white guy shot up to 10+ Christian whites & killed 9 people (after asking them to stand up and identify themselves as Christians at a university) all we get is "we need more gun control" from Obama, CNN, etc.

Here's what I woke up to today on CNN's website:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/02/politi...index.html

Notice how there is nothing about the religious angle, or the potential for black on white racism and the connection to the SC killer, or the obvious fact that the shooter was crazy, single mom with a strange upbringing, was discharged from the Army, Aspergers, on pharmaceutical drugs, etc. No it's all about guns. All part of a politicized agenda. If only guns would go away everything would be just fine and dandy!!

Can you imagine if the shooter had been white and picked out Muslims or blacks in a school and then systematically killed them? Would the "Islamophobia" or "racism" coverage ever end? What other "oppressive white culture" symbols would they target? But in this case they say NOTHING (!).

It's literally outrageous. The "progressive" mainstream media bend over backwards not to make obvious connections and parallels, and to blame it all on guns. As if this guy was just a normal guy who saw a gun and then went nuts and started shooting.

Does anyone outside the far-left "progressive" media and the left in general really think that by somehow banning guns that these crazy people won't do as much, if not more damage? Especially after carefully planning all these attacks out? Honestly, it's all part of a political agenda at this point.

"After the Dylan Roof shooting we got the "ban the confederate flag" ":

So, by the same reasoning, we should ban... rap music.

Well yes: According to main-stream media, the confederate flag brings "bad thoughts and feelings" into White people's hearts (thoughts of fighting, of bravery, of ethnic identity...). But similarly, rap music brings "bad thoughts and feelings" into Black people's hearts (thoughts of fighting, of shooting cops, of ethnic identity...).

So, time has come to ask for the banning of rap music! Why should White men be the only ones to get culturally castrated?

[Stay]

Is it not against the law in the states to sell guns to people who have been placed somewhere on the autistic spectrum?

Because a Lot of your virgin killers have been. Any sign of mental illness and you should be blacklisted from owning a gun.

[RockHard]

(10-03-2015 08:37 AM)Stay Wrote:  

Is it not against the law in the states to sell guns to people who have been placed somewhere on the autistic spectrum?

As far as I know, as long as you don't have a felony conviction, you're good to go.

I said that in my post on the last page. With every single one of these guys, they're interviewing people in the aftermath and they all say that the guy was a real weirdo, that they knew something was off with him. The signs are all obvious, but in this country it's next to impossible to get some committed to an institution... UNTIL THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING HEINOUS. Then people go around tearing their hair out about guns.

I agree with Blackhawk. I'll go and predict that within 5 years, we'll have our first drone mass murder. Now that is something terrifying. A guy with a gun shooting people I can handle. A guy sitting in a cafe controlling a drone from his phone? Now that's scary.