[El Chinito loco]

(10-01-2015 12:44 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

(09-30-2015 04:10 PM)Akula Wrote:  

What am I missing here?

All the baby boomers and 70-year-olds who watch Fox News and have zero skin in the game want us to get in a war with Russia over this just so they have something new to watch. The neocohens who tell them what to think are extremely upset that Putin wants to bring stability to the country rather than let the endless bloodshed go on indefinitely for the benefit of Saudi Arabia and Israel.

The Israel lobby will and always will hate Russia with a passion. The hate is not rational but a grudge for a number of historical reasons.

A lot of powerful Jews in the U.S. are actually Russian Jews.

They remember the time when their families were persecuted by Stalin and other unfortunate incidents during the cold war. They've held a grudge against the entire Russian people since then.

This long standing grudge fuels a lot of anti-Russian policies and agitation that the U.S. has taken on since the wall came down. There's no real reason why Russia should be at odds with the U.S. these days if cooler and more logical heads prevailed without Israeli interference at all levels of U.S. politics.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Frankly Russia entering the conflict is the first good news for a long time. WW3 won't be happening over Syria.

ISIS is an organization financed and I believe even created by the global secret services. A few Russian soldiers will be able to seriously cripple them more than the entire US/NATO forces who are supposedly fighting the "rebels".

I am happy that the Russian and now Chinese are fighting for the good side. This is utter craziness.

And I have noticed that some guys believe that Assad is a crazy bastard who has used gas attacks on their own people on the very day of the UN inspections? That was utterly debunked and even stated by the UN that Assad was innocent. Don't trust in the media at all - they claim that the moronic extremists and beheaders are moderate Muslims and "rebels". This is about as honest information as about the migrant crisis in Europe.

http://leaksource.files.wordpress.com/20...behead.jpg
I will spare you a pic of that openly - but those are the guys who are supported by the Western forces. Assad had a relatively peaceful regime which was way less repressive than Saudi Arabia. If toppling him is a priority, then the US should first direct their crazy bastards of ISIS to the Saudis.

   





I agree with that fellow. If the cooperation continues then those stupid morons with an average IQ of 88 won't be doing much damage anymore. Of course they are all led by secret service operatives with Western backing - all with IQs beyond 135 and all the US backing they can get.

In any case the Syrian crisis seems to be as good as over. All Syrian refugees can go back to their home country and join their military.

But of course nothing of that sort will be happening. Still - Assad may have a chance to stay and China and Russia are going to get their military bases and pipelines or whatever is in it for them. Still - their rule is better than what happens in Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya. Anyone wants to seriously have a repeat of those "success stories"?

[Foolsgo1d]

China and Russia will rebuild Syria and could rebuild Iraq without the problems the US contractors faced. Sectarian violence would be crushed.

[Killer Joe]

Regardless of what Russia's strategy in Syria is, I have a strong hunch they know what they're doing. The conflict won't end overnight, but the Russians will be successful in their objectives, whatever they might be.

Why intervene now? Why not 4 years ago when it all started? They've analysed the situation and after considering all factors decided to strike now. It's not Russia's modus operandi to intervene militarily so far from home, so this shows that they're playing with a stronger hand now. Good for them. The US, Obama and the rest of the West may complain as much as they like; Russia's operation there is already a fait accompli.

[Veloce]

(10-02-2015 01:59 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Frankly Russia entering the conflict is the first good news for a long time. WW3 won't be happening over Syria.

Holy shit, I gotta see the rest of this girl (potential SIF) but based on that video she's a dime in my book. Those DSLs are ridiculous.



Arms could maybe be skinnier, but goddamn, that face.



Edit: I've been watching her on .25 speed. Watching her mouth move is absolutely mesmerizing. If that's what Syrian girls look like then we need to get their female refugees post haste.

[JacksonRev]

(10-02-2015 06:29 PM)Killer Joe Wrote:  

Regardless of what Russia's strategy in Syria is, I have a strong hunch they know what they're doing. The conflict won't end overnight, but the Russians will be successful in their objectives, whatever they might be.

Why intervene now? Why not 4 years ago when it all started? They've analysed the situation and after considering all factors decided to strike now. It's not Russia's modus operandi to intervene militarily so far from home, so this shows that they're playing with a stronger hand now. Good for them. The US, Obama and the rest of the West may complain as much as they like; Russia's operation there is already a fait accompli.

I was in Iraq in 2011, and there was no way the Russians could have done anything then. However, the US military is now in complete disarray due to a lack of clear goals and leadership, with the only actual "goals" being make work female/gay/tranny bullshit.

And now that Russia has solidified their hold on Crimea and the Black Sea, they can focus on Mediterranean access and preventing any other nations from building oil and gas pipelines to Europe.

The US just screwed Europe in every way possible, from immigration to energy, thanks to the ambitions of our Arab and Israeli allies.

[TigerMandingo]

(10-02-2015 12:48 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

This long standing grudge fuels a lot of anti-Russian policies and agitation that the U.S. has taken on since the wall came down. There's no real reason why Russia should be at odds with the U.S. these days if cooler and more logical heads prevailed without Israeli interference at all levels of U.S. politics.

Spot on. As a matter of fact, Russia has never really posed any sort of threat to the US. That was something neocon types invented (particularly evil in this sense were Kissinger and Brzezinski).

Just imagine how great it would be if the two countries collaborated?

I hate to say this, but the only way America can start to rebuild itself is by removing the Jewish power structure (how to go about doing this is another question altogether and I am most certainly not advocating violence). They are poisoning everything. A Russian comedian famously noted that one of the best things the Soviet Union did was encourage Russian Jews to emigrate, thereby getting rid of them. Only then did Russia start on its path to recovery.

Things have never ended well in those countries where Jews were dominant. Sorry, folks. I wish I had better news.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(10-02-2015 06:50 PM)kleyau Wrote:  

I was in Iraq in 2011, and there was no way the Russians could have done anything then. However, the US military is now in complete disarray due to a lack of clear goals and leadership, with the only actual "goals" being make work female/gay/tranny bullshit.

Syria is not Iraq. Iraq is an internal clusterfuck of different factions among multiple extremists. You can only win it by one group or one dictator wrestling the control over the entire country.

Syria is insofar different as the country is by far more uniform than Iraq and they still have their strongman in power in combination with the military. It's as if Iraq still had Saddam and the Republican guard in power and the US would only have to aid them against ISIS - that would be child's play.

Assad has the support of they Syrian people because only a psychopath or brainwashed media zombie would ever prefer the Islamist lunatics vs a secular regime like Assad's.

That SyriangirlPartisan gets plenty of heat for defending Assad's regime, of whom she is not a fan of, but I am certain now that many people in Iraq would wish Saddam back while Assad is 100 times better than Saddam in terms of orderly leadership (the same goes for Gaddafi).


WB - she is not getting fatter.

Quote:

She is Sunni, yes, but like many religions she is obviously not a hardliner. She has SPOKEN OUT AGAINST Assad's regime. She is simply stating that Syria was *better off* under Assad, but was by no means perfect. She is not a "wahabbist". She is not a Salafist either. Syria is an ancient and beautiful SECULAR land, and has had Muslims, Christians and Jews living together for THOUSANDS of years, and now USA, UK, Israel and rest of the west (as well as drumming up support via Zionist-run media) are paying for children willing to martyr for the FSA (The WESTERN/ISRAEL [Al-Qaeda/Al-CIADA] opposition to Assad, women are being raped, enslaved and murdered as well as HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of civilians. Who is supporting this monetarily?

The mainstream media and their side arms have been smearing her because how dare she criticize the allies of the US - Al Quaeda/ISIS:



Doesn't she know that Al-Quaeda are now the allies of the West? Who are fighting today Winston, Oceania or Eastasia?


(sorry for the smoloko pic, but he compiles it better - I don't differentiate personally between Mossad or the CIA or even the MI6 - they are one as far as I am concerned - and not Jewish by any wide shot - just under control of the international money elite - after the banking power / central banks the secret services are the second thing you have to control if you want to rule it all - they are even more vital than the military)

Don't know whether that is true, but Snowden is probably still a better source than all others.

[El Chinito loco]

(10-02-2015 07:13 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Spot on. As a matter of fact, Russia has never really posed any sort of threat to the US. That was something neocon types invented (particularly evil in this sense were Kissinger and Brzezinski).

After Stalin's regime, the Soviet Union was ideologically very tame. It's similar to how China's ideological direction changed dramatically after Mao finally croaked. The initial communist fervor burns bright but then dies out once their greatest demagogues finally kick the bucket. The U.S. has been misreading the intentions of Russia for decades now. The whole comintern menace and the resulting U.S. policy of containment has always been overblown. The Grand Chessboard is a laughable book for this reason.

U.S. foreign policy with Kissinger at the forefront used this threat of the "Soviet menace" as an excuse to test out neo colonialism in SEA too. It was basically a plan to turn SEA similar to something like Latin-america. Which during that time was a series of compliant nations run by strongmen following self defeating U.S. prescribed neoliberal economic policies and with agribusiness fully controlled by U.S. interests. These short sighted policies have fucked latin-america for decades. Thankfully SEA has had more options.

[rudebwoy]

Russia looking to stabilize the Middle East, not destroy it like America.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151001...orism.html

Russian strikes sends the Western Media into a frenzy.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-02...stern-medi

Russia did more against ISIS in one day than American in one year.

http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/r...is-in.html

[JacksonRev]

(10-02-2015 09:30 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(10-02-2015 06:50 PM)kleyau Wrote:  

I was in Iraq in 2011, and there was no way the Russians could have done anything then. However, the US military is now in complete disarray due to a lack of clear goals and leadership, with the only actual "goals" being make work female/gay/tranny bullshit.

Syria is not Iraq. Iraq is an internal clusterfuck of different factions among multiple extremists. You can only win it by one group or one dictator wrestling the control over the entire country.

Syria is insofar different as the country is by far more uniform than Iraq and they still have their strongman in power in combination with the military. It's as if Iraq still had Saddam and the Republican guard in power and the US would only have to aid them against ISIS - that would be child's play.

Assad has the support of they Syrian people because only a psychopath or brainwashed media zombie would ever prefer the Islamist lunatics vs a secular regime like Assad's.

That SyriangirlPartisan gets plenty of heat for defending Assad's regime, of whom she is not a fan of, but I am certain now that many people in Iraq would wish Saddam back while Assad is 100 times better than Saddam in terms of orderly leadership (the same goes for Gaddafi).

I don't understand what any of that has to do with my post.

I was in Iraq, while paying a great deal of attention to the rest of the Levant/Middle East and the Arab uprising, for my 12 plus hour a day job with no social life, and continued to focus on the same area for the years after I got back. This whole piece of shit area is what I spent the last five years of my life on.

Assad in power hurts Europe, because then Russia controls Europe's energy. Chaos in the Levant hurts Europe, because then massive migration destroys European communities and they can't adequately defend against Russia's expansion.

Either way, Assad is bad for Europe, regardless of how he treats his own people.

And key allies to the US, Israel and the Saudis, want Assad gone. The Saudis to export oil and gas, and Israel to keep the area fractured and easy to control.

This whole thing was poorly played by the US, and well played by Russia. That is all.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(10-02-2015 10:29 PM)kleyau Wrote:  

Assad in power hurts Europe, because then Russia controls Europe's energy. Chaos in the Levant hurts Europe, because then massive migration destroys European communities and they can't adequately defend against Russia's expansion.

Either way, Assad is bad for Europe, regardless of how he treats his own people.

And key allies to the US, Israel and the Saudis, want Assad gone. The Saudis to export oil and gas, and Israel to keep the area fractured and easy to control.

This whole thing was poorly played by the US, and well played by Russia. That is all.

This is a comment that can proudly stand in the Huffingtonpost and NY Times.

All the great undertaking worked perfectly in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya - ah - those wonderful projects where milk and honey is now flowing and "brutal" dictators are deposed.






Syria before and after liberation unless you claim that Assad has just started killing his citizens just because he felt like it.

Your comment:

Quote:

Either way, Assad is bad for Europe, regardless of how he treats his own people.
And key allies to the US, Israel and the Saudis, want Assad gone. The Saudis to export oil and gas, and Israel to keep the area fractured and easy to control.

This is even worse than at first glance. Assad is bad even if he treats his people good. US, Israel, Saudi Arabia good - they want him gone. Saudis get the oil together with the US and Israel keeps "the area fractured" - meaning fucks up all those countries for decades to come and bombs them later into the stone age. Got it - sounds like a good plan. And 200 million refugees coming to the stupid Europeans to enrich their cultures.

Sounds like a plan.

[JacksonRev]

(10-02-2015 10:39 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

This is even worse than at first glance. Assad is bad even if he treats his people good. US, Israel, Saudi Arabia good - they want him gone. Saudis get the oil together with the US and Israel keeps "the area fractured" - meaning fucks up all those countries for decades to come and bombs them later into the stone age. Got it - sounds like a good plan. And 200 million refugees coming to the stupid Europeans to enrich their cultures.

Sounds like a plan.

I said it was a bad plan.

You said it was a bad plan.

...?

Countries are sociopathic. Sometimes they're smart about it, sometimes they're stupid about it.

Right now Russia and Saudi Arabia are smart about it, and the US and Europe are stupid about it.

I live in a small farmhouse in the middle of nowhere now, because I got tired of being a piece in this game. So now I watch to pass the time, since the NFL has too many commercials and they wear pink.

[nomadbrah]

The reason the US is waging war against Russia is because Putin took the country back from the oligarchs, of whom most of course were tribe proxies for Soros who in turn is a proxy for Rothschild.

This was the only time in history when the conspiracy connection was open for all to see, the kind of sinister stuff that is usually catelogued where even Zelcorpion won't believe it.

We have well documented connections between Soros, Kodorkovsky and Rothschild.

The following will require a bit of reading and watching, so stop if you don't care enough to actually understand what actually happened in Russia in the 90s.

First of all there is the greatest documentary you have likely never seen, but wait with this until you have time as its long:

For now, just some names of oligarchs their main leader Kodorkhovsky who was released ahead of the Winter Olympics having spent 10 years in jail.

Kodorkovsky like the rest of the oligarch stole about 80% of ALL wealth in Russia, by means of swindle and foreign loans.

Kodorkovsky owned an energy company called Yukos, which he swindled and didn't pay tax. When Putin came to power, after the oligarchs promoted him as their puppet (talk about shooting yourself in the foot), Putin struck down and demanded tax payment.

Kodorkovsky knowing this and fearing arrest, transferred ownership of his shares and who he transferred it to is very, very important:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2003...400-3720r/

Quote:

Control of Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s shares in the Russian oil giant Yukos have passed to renowned banker Jacob Rothschild, under a deal they concluded prior to Mr. Khodorkovsky’s arrest, the Sunday Times reported.

How about that?

The 30 something Kodorkovsky - a 'russian' - having supposedly only lived in Russia decides to transfer the entirety of the billion dollar company Yukos to the grand old man Sir Lord Baron Jacob Rothschild, head of the infamous Rothschild, the big one, the legend, the center of all the most unbelieveable conspiracy theories.

That isn't all though.

This goes deep friends!

Now, we do have a connection, a very strong, very clear one, between the leading Russian oligarch and Lord Rothschild. Let's where else we may connect the dots.

Kodorkovsky created a foundation called Open Russia Foundation, of whom board members included Lord Rotschild as well as Henry Kissinger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Russia

Here they are:



Not only do we have a connection between the Russian oligarchs and Lord Rothschild we also have a connection to that warmongering jewish american Henry Kissinger.

If the name Open Russia Foundation sounds familiar, now that is just a coincidence and certainly has nothing to do with the Open Russian Society run by George Soros, oh no, not at all! The 'Open Society' foundation which so graciously sponsor coups around the world.

That's not all though!

You see, before Kodorkovsky got scared and gave his Yukos shares to Rothschild he attempted to sell the company to an American investor, but not just any investor, good ole George H.W. Bush who served as negotiator in a merger between a US company and Yukos:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/05/world/...in-us.html

Quote:

But Mr. Khodorkovsky's steady efforts to win access to other influential Americans have paid off. Last July, he met with Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham to discuss America's oil policy. Former President George H. W. Bush traveled to Russia in September and spoke at a dinner attended by Mr. Khodorkovsky.

That event prompted Moscow newspapers to speculate that the visit was part of an effort by American companies to secure a merger with Yukos Oil, where Mr. Khodorkovsky was chief executive until he quit on Monday in a swirl of fraud and embezzlement charges. His replacement, a Russian-born American, was confirmed yesterday. [Page A10.]

The Carlyle Group, an investment bank that retained the elder Mr. Bush as an adviser until a few weeks ago, has a close business relationship with Mr. Khodorkovsky. Although Mr. Bush was in Russia as a Carlyle representative, the bank said, his visit had nothing to do with oil deals and he did not meet privately with Mr. Khodorkovsky.

How nice, now we have a connection involving Lord Rothschild, Henry Kissinger, Mikail Kodorkhovsky and George HW Bush.

Tell me now, doesn't reality surpass fiction?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

nomadbrah - I am aware of the ousting of the oligarchs in Russia.
The ownership structure of the Rothschilds' does not surprise me. It's nothing new - they own a lot more than is official - some billionaires are just strawmen - like in the case of JP MOrgan in 1913 when it turned out that owned less than 30% of his company - the rest was owned by the Rothschilds.

However I am not utterly convinced that Russia is not some kind of dual-agent under full direction by the international money elite - playing a different kind of long game. I am not getting my hopes up that they managed to break free from the money power control, but we will see in time. It's certainly good that the oligarchs were mostly dethroned. And it's good that they are doing something useful in the Middle East. We will see about the rest in the future.

[iop890]

10,000 Chechens pledge loyalty to Putin and prepare to be deployed into Syria to fight ISIS on the ground.

Putin is removing two sets of Muslims for the price of one.

Obama on suicide watch.


EDIT: 1,000th post. I'm confirmed alpha now. Get on my level beta chodes.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(10-03-2015 03:24 AM)iop890 Wrote:  

10,000 Chechens pledge loyalty to Putin and prepare to be deployed into Syria to fight ISIS on the ground.

Putin is removing two sets of Muslims for the price of one.

Obama on suicide watch.

DIT: 1,000th post. I'm confirmed alpha now. Get on my level beta chodes.

Looks like a solid force. I see no women among them - the Russians are not as enlightened as the Western nations to let them join the Army Rangers. I also haven't seen them walk in high heels.

It's not even a move of "getting rid" of them. They certainly get paid royally for their combat service (often making 5-10 times more if they fight than if they remain at home). And Putin did the right thing turning over the rulership of Chechnya to another Muslims. Muslims like to be ruled by other Muslims - even if they are puppets. That is why regimes like with Gaddafi, Assad or even Saddam were stable.

I tell you - it's Game over for the beheaders and their allies (US/NATO/Israel) at least in Syria. They cannot win this. This is completely different to Afghanistan. Here the local Syrians are fighting alongside the Russians. They are the cavalry and the Syrians fight for their country and their survival. The Syrian refugees may yet have a home to return to. Putin has deflated that kind of migration propaganda too.

[Wrec]

A poll in some Czech news
Question is: Do you approve Russian air strikes in Syria?
   

[Libertas]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russ...cid=SMSDHP

Erdogan:

Quote:

"I will definitely speak to Putin... I will express my sadness over this matter,"

"I want to understand why Russia is so interested in Syria,"

Meanwhile, the American public overwhelmingly approves.

The jig is up. The drive to spread "democracy" in the Middle East will be over within the next ten years (the people are always ahead of the government). The question is how much damage remains to be done.

[Phoenix]

(10-02-2015 11:09 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Tell me now, doesn't reality surpass fiction?

Prompted by your post, I searched wiki for the list of Russian oligarchs. They're mostly jews. I had seriously just assumed they were 'normal' russians. The more I read, the more the plot seems to thicken. Like all of the leftist members of the US supreme court being jews. Just what exactly is their deal?

If anyone has any recommendation of materials on "how the Jews work", I'd be interested. The topic seems to be dominated by conspiracy theorists, neo-nazis, or the "that's anti-semitic!" brigade. None of that stuff. I'd like something calm and objective on the topic.

Specifically, I'm interested in how dynasties like the Rothschild's are so persistent. Is it because they sexually select for intelligence in their women more than other traits or something? How do they educate their children, is it much more comprehensive and intense than in other families? I'd also like to understand why they are overwhelmingly leftist, and often at the forefront of leftism (e.g. Marx and Lenin).

[WildBoar]

(10-03-2015 10:55 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Prompted by your post, I searched wiki for the list of Russian oligarchs. They're mostly jews. I had seriously just assumed they were 'normal' russians. The more I read, the more the plot seems to thicken. Like all of the leftist members of the US supreme court being jews. Just what exactly is their deal?

If anyone has any recommendation of materials on "how the Jews work", I'd be interested. The topic seems to be dominated by conspiracy theorists, neo-nazis, or the "that's anti-semitic!" brigade. None of that stuff. I'd like something calm and objective on the topic.

Specifically, I'm interested in how dynasties like the Rothschild's are so persistent. Is it because they sexually select for intelligence in their women more than other traits or something? How do they educate their children, is it much more comprehensive and intense than in other families? I'd also like to understand why they are overwhelmingly leftist, and often at the forefront of leftism (e.g. Marx and Lenin).

Read Sex and Character by Otto Weininger. He has a special chapter on Judaism. He was Jewish himself. He has the best explanation on why Jews tend to lean towards communism (not socialism).

Quote:

Let me begin with the analogies. It is notable that the Jews, even now when at least a relative security of tenure is possible, prefer moveable property, and, in spite of their acquisitiveness, have little real sense of personal property, especially in its most characteristic form, landed property' Property is indissolubly connected with the self, with individuality. It is in harmony with the foregoing that the Jew is so readily disposed to communism. Communism must be distinguished clearly from socialism, the former being based on a community of goods, an absence of individual property, the latter meaning, in the first place a co-operation of individual with individual, of worker with worker, and a recognition of human individuality in every one. Socialism is Aryan (Owen, Carlyle, Ruskin, Fichte). Communism is Jewish (Marx). Modern social democracy has moved far apart from the earlier socialism, precisely because Jews have taken so large a share in developing it. In spite of the associative element in it, the Marxian doctrine does not lead in any way towards the State as a union of all the separate individual aims, as the higher unit combining the purposes of the lower units. Such a conception is as foreign to the Jew as it is to the woman.

Quote:

The true conception of the State is foreign to the Jew, because he, like the woman, is wanting in personality; his failure to grasp the idea of true society is due to his lack of free intelligible ego. Like women, Jews tend to adhere together, but they do not associate as free independent individuals mutually respecting each other's individuality.

[WildBoar]

(10-02-2015 11:23 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

However I am not utterly convinced that Russia is not some kind of dual-agent under full direction by the international money elite - playing a different kind of long game. I am not getting my hopes up that they managed to break free from the money power control, but we will see in time. It's certainly good that the oligarchs were mostly dethroned. And it's good that they are doing something useful in the Middle East. We will see about the rest in the future.

I support this theory. Hitler was that kind of dual agent.

[nomadbrah]

My post was not at all about Russia being a dual agent, quite the contrary, Russia was the victim of a coup which Putin rolled back, instigated by the usual suspects and that is the reason for everything that has happened since, from Femen to Ukraine.

[The Truth]

(10-02-2015 11:09 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

The reason the US is waging war against Russia is because Putin took the country back from the oligarchs, of whom most of course were tribe proxies for Soros who in turn is a proxy for Rothschild.

This was the only time in history when the conspiracy connection was open for all to see, the kind of sinister stuff that is usually catelogued where even Zelcorpion won't believe it.

We have well documented connections between Soros, Kodorkovsky and Rothschild.

The following will require a bit of reading and watching, so stop if you don't care enough to actually understand what actually happened in Russia in the 90s.

First of all there is the greatest documentary you have likely never seen, but wait with this until you have time as its long:

For now, just some names of oligarchs their main leader Kodorkhovsky who was released ahead of the Winter Olympics having spent 10 years in jail.

Kodorkovsky like the rest of the oligarch stole about 80% of ALL wealth in Russia, by means of swindle and foreign loans.

Kodorkovsky owned an energy company called Yukos, which he swindled and didn't pay tax. When Putin came to power, after the oligarchs promoted him as their puppet (talk about shooting yourself in the foot), Putin struck down and demanded tax payment.

Kodorkovsky knowing this and fearing arrest, transferred ownership of his shares and who he transferred it to is very, very important:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2003...400-3720r/

Quote:

Control of Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s shares in the Russian oil giant Yukos have passed to renowned banker Jacob Rothschild, under a deal they concluded prior to Mr. Khodorkovsky’s arrest, the Sunday Times reported.

How about that?

The 30 something Kodorkovsky - a 'russian' - having supposedly only lived in Russia decides to transfer the entirety of the billion dollar company Yukos to the grand old man Sir Lord Baron Jacob Rothschild, head of the infamous Rothschild, the big one, the legend, the center of all the most unbelieveable conspiracy theories.

That isn't all though.

This goes deep friends!

Now, we do have a connection, a very strong, very clear one, between the leading Russian oligarch and Lord Rothschild. Let's where else we may connect the dots.

Kodorkovsky created a foundation called Open Russia Foundation, of whom board members included Lord Rotschild as well as Henry Kissinger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Russia

Here they are:



Not only do we have a connection between the Russian oligarchs and Lord Rothschild we also have a connection to that warmongering jewish american Henry Kissinger.

If the name Open Russia Foundation sounds familiar, now that is just a coincidence and certainly has nothing to do with the Open Russian Society run by George Soros, oh no, not at all! The 'Open Society' foundation which so graciously sponsor coups around the world.

That's not all though!

You see, before Kodorkovsky got scared and gave his Yukos shares to Rothschild he attempted to sell the company to an American investor, but not just any investor, good ole George H.W. Bush who served as negotiator in a merger between a US company and Yukos:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/05/world/...in-us.html

Quote:

But Mr. Khodorkovsky's steady efforts to win access to other influential Americans have paid off. Last July, he met with Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham to discuss America's oil policy. Former President George H. W. Bush traveled to Russia in September and spoke at a dinner attended by Mr. Khodorkovsky.

That event prompted Moscow newspapers to speculate that the visit was part of an effort by American companies to secure a merger with Yukos Oil, where Mr. Khodorkovsky was chief executive until he quit on Monday in a swirl of fraud and embezzlement charges. His replacement, a Russian-born American, was confirmed yesterday. [Page A10.]

The Carlyle Group, an investment bank that retained the elder Mr. Bush as an adviser until a few weeks ago, has a close business relationship with Mr. Khodorkovsky. Although Mr. Bush was in Russia as a Carlyle representative, the bank said, his visit had nothing to do with oil deals and he did not meet privately with Mr. Khodorkovsky.

How nice, now we have a connection involving Lord Rothschild, Henry Kissinger, Mikail Kodorkhovsky and George HW Bush.

Tell me now, doesn't reality surpass fiction?

[Foolsgo1d]

Russia unleashes hell on ISIS, Al'Nusra and any other "rebel" in Syria. Everybody and his mother loses their shit.

Coalition airplanes bomb a hospital full of western aid workers in Afghanistan with 14+ dead and many injured. Not a peep from the press or outrage.


Could it be that our military machine of the West are the bad guys in this Hollywood movie called real life?