[WanderingSoul]

(08-18-2015 12:39 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

I wouldn't put any money on a red/yellow origin. Are local political groups, who talk all about moving the country towards something better, really going to blow up their own people to improve their political position? If anything, having the attack traced back to you would cause political annihilation. We all know who did it...


the corporations.

They've thrown grenades into crowds of innocent people and sent snipers dressed all in black to rooftops to murder people, so I wouldn't count them out of bombing a shrine.

[Sourcecode]

This really concerns me.
Not because I'm afraid of terrorist.
But I literally bought a ticket days ago..

[RIslander]

^When will you be in BKK? I'm thinking of heading there next week.

[Sourcecode]

I planned to go the first week of September.

[Rawmeo]

Another bomb just exploded 1 hour ago (14:10 local time) at Saphan Taksin BTS station. No one hurt this time.

[GlobalMan]

(08-18-2015 12:39 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

I wouldn't put any money on a red/yellow origin. Are local political groups, who talk all about moving the country towards something better, really going to blow up their own people to improve their political position? If anything, having the attack traced back to you would cause political annihilation. We all know who did it...


the corporations.

Local groups have committed violent acts occasionally since all the coup stuff kicked off some years ago. Who know's if thats the case here, but it could be. Could also be southern Thai/Maylay muslims who also have a beef.

[Rawmeo]

   

[GlobalMan]

Another one of these pressure cooker in backpack assholes. Check the nearby boats.

[storm]

Sounds like a lone agent. Almost certainly Islam.

[WanderingSoul]

(08-18-2015 03:50 PM)storm Wrote:  

Sounds like a lone agent. Almost certainly Islam.

And where are you getting that info from?

Military blaming the reds, as expected.

http://www.thephuketnews.com/thai-junta-...-53694.php

[mistertruc]

Video of the suspect dropping his backpack among the people:

[Horus]

I'm sitting in the airport now to catch a connecting flight home via Bangkok but I'll stay there for a few days. I'm not even a little bit worried.

[El Chinito loco]

(08-18-2015 07:34 PM)mistertruc Wrote:  

Video of the suspect dropping his backpack among the people:

After running still images through state of the art FBI facial recognition software I have come up with a likely suspect.

[spalex]

Called it!

Religion of peace again:


http://www.news.com.au/world/bangkok-bom...7493476279

[Phoenix]

(08-21-2015 12:36 PM)spalex Wrote:  

Called it!

Religion of peace again

Buddhists right?

[Saweeep]

Who'd have thought??

I am just sick to death of Islam.

[Foolsgo1d]

I suggest people do not take the word of the Thai military or police without several metric tonnes of salt. They are incredibly inept and cannot get their own shit together.

Puzzle me this.

Why would Thais who are against the military seek out an area where locals and foreigners congregate and not a police/military target?

Imagine the real fear of a country losing its ferrang cash cow. Look at Tunisia. Didn't work out so well for them now did it?

Look at violence and religious hatred in the Philippines, Indonesia and Malaysia. Muslim hate preachers made the trip to these lands from the Middle East years ago and I know this because they were locking them up. They went there to obtain new blood for their cause and it has been a success. Away from the US military juggernaut they have found a niche within the poor and un-educated of these countries.

It is only logical that Thailand succumbs to this spread of radical Islam but the Thai authorities have brushed it under the carpet until now and still keep the world guessing.

[Beyond Borders]

Foreigner arrested for Bangkok bomb. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/au...omb-arrest

Theory seems to be that a people smuggling group bombed the shrine because of recent police crackdowns on the trade.

If you ask me, they are really stretching out for those straws here. Obviously I don't know much about how they drew the conclusion, but still.

[WanderingSoul]

Doesn't seem like human traffickers would do this. It makes no sense.

I feel like the Thai police and politicians should be better at making up lies by now. They always come up with the worst stories to cover their asses.

[WalterBlack]

I think this could be something to do with the Uyghurs (Ethnic Turkish Muslims in western China). There’s a conflict between them and the “Han” Chinese. Many Turks consider the Uyghurs as “brothers”.

This happened in July in Turkey

Quote:

Burnt Chinese flags, attacks on Chinese restaurants, alleged attacks on tourists who were mistaken for being Chinese and protests across the country.

For the last 10 days anti-Chinese sentiment has been on the rise in Turkey.

Turkish Muslims and Uighurs from the far western region of China share ethnicity and have close cultural and religious ties.

The protests started following reports that Uighurs in China had been banned from fasting during the holy month of Ramadan.

The guy they arrested had lots of Turkish passports with him and a the Erawan shrine has a lot of Chinese tourists. A lot of the victims are ethnically Chinese.

China 'breaks Turkish-Uighur passport plot' (Jan 2015)

Quote:

China arrested nine Muslim Uighurs and 10 Turkish nationals in November over a fake passport plot, state media report.

The Global Times said the Turks gave illegal passports to the Uighurs, who attempted to leave China.

Some of the Uighurs' phones contained "terrorist" material, the paper said, and several confessed they were heading for Syria, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Chinese authorities say they are fighting an Islamist rebellion in Xinjiang, the Uighurs' home region.

More than 200 people died last year in bloody confrontations between Uighurs and Chinese security forces, hundreds of people have been arrested and dozens executed.

[Saweeep]

(08-31-2015 12:26 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Doesn't seem like human traffickers would do this. It makes no sense.

I feel like the Thai police and politicians should be better at making up lies by now. They always come up with the worst stories to cover their asses.

Just heard the Thai police have claimed the reward offered to the public for information

[Belgrano]

Just like WalterBlack I suspect the Uyghur connection.

It might have something to do with that, from July 2015:
Thailand returns scores of Uighurs to China

Quote:

Thailand has sent nearly 100 Uighur Muslims back to China, a move likely to anger Turkey, as protesters targeted Thai honorary consulate in Istanbul against the move.
(...)
Thailand's embassy in Ankara announced on its Facebook page that protesters angry over the Uighur issue stormed the consulate in Istanbul late on Wednesday and warned around 1,300 Thais living in Turkey to "be on alert" following the attack.

Deportations like that seem to be a regular occurrence.
We know that the arrested suspect had a considerable number of fake Turkish passports in his possession and that the SEA route from Yunnan via Thailand to Malaysia is a popular escape route for Uyghurs who have some reason to leave China illegally, most heading to Turkey which grants them asylum.

My theory is that parts of the Turkish intelligence community close to the AKP and Erdoğan are instructed to provide Uyghurs from China with Turkish identities so that they can travel to Syria via Turkey and join ISIS.

This would fit with Erdoğan´s previous policy of barely concealed support for the Islamic State in order to keep the region unstable, weaken Assad further, prevent the Iranian supported Shiite forces from gaining ground, prevent the Kurds from consolidating and finally proclaiming their own state, ensure Turkey´s current state of being the dominant regional hegemon and thus advance his neo-Ottoman ambitions.

Now the following part is purely speculation on my part. When they have completed their basic training, gained combat experience and have been taught the ABC of asymetric warfare, they will be (are?) extracted and smuggled across the border back to Xinjiang/Turkestan via the Central Asian republics and join the anti-Chinese insurgency. There´s a considerable pan-Turkish sentiment in parts of the Turkish government that would love to see an independent Turkestan.

Some of these Uyghurs extracted via Thailand are obviously loose cannons, and it doesn´t seem far-fetched that one of them sought retribution for his recently deported Uyghur brothers (nothing good awaits them in China). So he plants a bomb at the Erawan shrine, which is popular with Chinese tourists.
It kills some Thais? Good. It kills some Chinese? Even better.
Also keep in mind that the other bomb that luckily detonated in the water was thrown at a Skytrain station that a lot of Chinese tour groups pass through, Saphan Taksin. There has also been a a report in the English-language Bangkok Post which suggested that police had strengthened security around the Chinese embassy two weeks before the explosion, reportedly after receiving intelligence of an attack planned on Chinese tourists after Aug. 18.

[Kamaki4]

I don't know why some of you think the Turkish angle is a stretch. The Thai consulate in Istanbul was stormed by protestors last month after the deportations. http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/...-in-turkey The RTP (Royal Thai Police) needs to stop leaking details about ongoing investigations to the public. Whenever a suspect in a high profile case is ruled out, or worse, prosecuted anyway to 'save face' it makes therm look unprofessional and just adds to the deservedly poor reputation they have.

[Beyond Borders]

(08-31-2015 05:22 PM)Kamaki4 Wrote:  

I don't know why some of you think the Turkish angle is a stretch. The Thai consulate in Istanbul was stormed by protestors last month after the deportations. http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/...-in-turkey The RTP (Royal Thai Police) needs to stop leaking details about ongoing investigations to the public. Whenever a suspect in a high profile case is ruled out, or worse, prosecuted anyway to 'save face' it makes therm look unprofessional and just adds to the deservedly poor reputation they have.

I don't think anyone said the Turkish angle was a stretch, did they?