[captndonk]

Oh Lord why,

I pulled a 6-7 from a club. It was really easy, maybe too easy. She talked about that she had never had a ONS before. But as we came to my place she headed to te bed and told me that she didn't want to have sex today. She asked wheter I am ok with this, if not she would leave immediately. First I kissed her instead of answering but she insisted again and again. Finally I agreed. (maybe a huge mistake) She also talked about her boyfriend, who dumped her last Sunday.

Now she sleeps in my bed and I write in the forum...

[Gustavus Adolphus]

You are the Sexless Innkeeper. Let her know where she is taking you for breakfast.

[el mechanico]

Write up a consent form and brew up some good coffee. After she signs it begin light for play. Have her sign off on penetration with initials then go to town.

War Lyfe

[amusedmastery]

Put a blanket on her and go to sleep. Push for morning sex. You have an non paying roommate tonight.

[Thoroughbred]

(08-11-2015 08:31 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Write up a consent form and brew up some good coffee. After she signs it begin light for play. Have her sign off on penetration with initials then go to town.

War Lyfe

I just laughed my ass off in my office el mech. I now have to explain that shit.

Fuck you.

[ksbms]

That's a mistake I did last Thursday when intended to bed a tourist. Read about it here and how it panned out. I learnt my lesson and one of the reasons I posted it was so you and others in similar situation could do better. That's what this forum is for and it is in the same newbie section, just a few posts down the same page.

My conclusion was as follows:

1. Escalate until you have sex with the girl, unless she clearly indicates it is a no-go. Use your judgement, her resistance should take more than an hour, I think.
2. If 1. cannot be achieved, be courteous but firm and make her leave - call her a cab.

There's this middle ground where you could think, there's an option for early morning sex, but I think it's not that likely - you're both sober and it will feel awkward. As you can see, in my case it was futile.

You can be a nice guy, and let her sleep over. But as the saying goes, nice guys finish last. Don't be that guy.

[OregonToSoCal]

(08-13-2015 12:18 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

That's a mistake I did last Thursday when intended to bed a tourist. Read about it here and how it panned out. I learnt my lesson and one of the reasons I posted it was so you and others in similar situation could do better. That's what this forum is for and it is in the same newbie section, just a few posts down the same page.

My conclusion was as follows:

1. Escalate until you have sex with the girl, unless she clearly indicates it is a no-go. Use your judgement, her resistance should take more than an hour, I think.
2. If 1. cannot be achieved, be courteous but firm and make her leave - call her a cab.

There's this middle ground where you could think, there's an option for early morning sex, but I think it's not that likely - you're both sober and it will feel awkward. As you can see, in my case it was futile.

You can be a nice guy, and let her sleep over. But as the saying goes, nice guys finish last. Don't be that guy.

I used to think exactly like you did but I disagree now. Unless the night is early and you have the opportunity to call another plate over for the bang there's really no downside to allowing her to sleep over and go for the early morning bang. I had a situation just like this happen about a month ago. The girl was very flirty but originally from China (came to the US when she was a small child) and clearly told me she wasn't comfortable having sex that same night we met. It was late and a weeknight so all I would have done was go to bed once she left. I figured I'll roll the dice and invite her to stay over. She accepted and when we woke up in the morning I encountered only light token resistance (mostly since I tried to go in raw but once I put a condom on it was off to the races ) and we had amazing morning sex.

I think for a lot of women waking up next to a guy triggers their relationship circuits and they're comfortable having morning sex since that's what they've likely done many times with previous boyfriends.

Edit: If the strong resistance is still there in the morning and I'm not getting at least a sloppy bj I'm going to hard next her and never look back. My invite is only good for one night if she's not putting out.

[coverdoc]

Happened to me a few weeks ago. My advice is to just keep pushing through. If she really just wanted to sleep she would have went home. Girl came by we partied until 4 am. Went back to my place and she said multiple times she was sleepy. I was too but I pushed through kissing all over her for 30 mins. She gets turned on, go for the BJ and we do the duty. Ironically enough, fell asleep inside her ha.

-CD

[ksbms]

(08-13-2015 12:46 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

I think for a lot of women waking up next to a guy triggers their relationship circuits and they're comfortable having morning sex since that's what they've likely done many times with previous boyfriends.

Research indicated that testosterone peaks early morning hours, 4am-8am so this could be an important factor as well.

[captndonk]

My case was different. She talked that we will have sex already at the club and more on the way to my place. Then in my bed she asked me wheter I was okay with not havong sex today, if not she would leave immediately. Now, I realize that this was a shittest and I failed. I should have told her: Ok, then leave.

Maybe I did another mistake which creeped her out, but I don't think so. In the recent past I was unlucky with the virgin, her and another girl but before I had no problems to have sex with the girls when they already entered my place.

[DonnyGately]

Every girl that has passed out in my bed has been apologetic and very frisky the following morning. Never has a girl left without a morning bj at a minimum.

[PapayaTapper]

(08-13-2015 01:32 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

Now, I realize that this was a shittest and I failed. I should have told her: Ok, then leave.

Ding ding ding!

[Rawmeo]

At least, you realized your mistake. That's half the problem solved. As I said in another thread, don't let a girl who refused sex sleep at your place if you have not already banged her.

There might be situations where it just doesn't happen, like both of you are wasted, etc. but if you try to escalate and she declines, and you haven't already banged her, kick her out. Even if it's 3:00 a.m. Have no mercy and stand your ground, as she had no mercy while rejecting sex while knowing that your balls were about to explode.

I did that 2 weeks ago. On the way to the hotel, she made me promise to not try to escalate. I did the A&A technique "I promise to jump on you at the first sign and be wild". In the room, the LMR was impossible to overcome. It was 2:30 a.m. and I told her to leave.

If you want people to respect you, you need to respect yourself first. You pull a girl from a club, go in your house / room / condo alone, go in the bedroom, and she thinks that she can just skip sex while your balls are itching. She is insulting you. Escalate and put effort, try to defeat LMR. If it's not going anywhere, tell her that it's time to leave. It takes some ball to kick her out cold like that, but once you're sleeping alone, you'll realize that you just got rid of an unnecessary liability.

Nobody can blame you for being a "nice guy". It doesn't make you a bad person. But being a "nice guy" will bring you "plain friend" status with girls. It takes game and alphaness to get the bang.

Nice job for realizing the mistake, now go bang some cute chicks!

[ksbms]

A somewhat mitigating move is to call her a cab (but not pay for it). I like to think of myself I'm a gentleman...

[Parlay44]

Epic fail bro. I kicked a girl out of my car last week for telling me she had her period. Left her on the side of the road like 15 miles from home.

[Irish]

Could be worse. I once had a chick fall asleep at the wheel of her car when driving back to my hotel after a pretty mental night out. Ended up having to dump her into the passenger seat and drive drunk and high in Jakarta Sunday morning traffic. Which is pretty severe. Then when we eventually arrived home at 9am after numerous wrong turnings she said she had to leave as she had an hour to get to work.

I made sure to bang her extra hard the following night tho...

[Rawmeo]

(08-18-2015 08:09 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Epic fail bro. I kicked a girl out of my car last week for telling me she had her period. Left her on the side of the road like 15 miles from home.

A period doesn't mean a no-bang. Get the red towel out and proceed as usual.

[Just Approach]

(08-18-2015 08:09 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Epic fail bro. I kicked a girl out of my car last week for telling me she had her period. Left her on the side of the road like 15 miles from home.

You should have at least got a blowjob from her at the minimum.

[Virtus]

This is capthdonk analysis from many threads. not a single post rates male

   

[Travesty]

This won't happen with better screening and game. Girls pull this shit when they are 50/50 or less on the way back to your place. They need to be nearing 90.