Quote: (08-07-2015 03:47 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:
I like this idea but what commonly happens to me is the girl will be nursing the shit out of her first drink so a second one is a moot point or on the off chance her drink is down if I offer her another one she usually declines since she has to drive home or it's a "work night". By me getting up and getting another drink it's a perfect opportunity to get up herself and say "I need to be getting home." How would you get around this?
You've got to start with a woman who is willing to get dirty on a school night, per se. If you need to meet earlier, meet for Happy Hour vs. waiting for 7pm, if you can. If you've got those 2 things handled, do the heavy lifting at the bar.
My conversation is simple; open ended questions about them. I am relatable, but not forthcoming about anything. By nature, people want to talk about themselves. I let her talk. Lots of nodding and smiling. Light kino, with minor escalation. Be light and be funny. If she's relaxed, she'll drink. As she talks, she'll be seeking my approval. Non-verbal allows me to do that, but in the meantime, I am drinking. She will mirror me and subconsciously drink too. Before you know it, a bottle of wine / 2 or 3 drinks will be consumed, I will know a shit ton about her, and she knows nothing about me. If she's interested, she will start asking about me. When she does, it's a perfect segue to relocating, and you'll have enough data points to know if the opportunity is there. One more than one occasion, knowing that it wasn't going to go down, I simply called it off, and played my #2 card or my bootycall. Calling it off has benefitted me on numerous occasions. Simply... I have captured her. She knows I know a lot about her, and she knows nothing about me in which to tell her social circle.
Assuming you get her back to the house, you've got rapport with her, you know a lot about her, she's interested in you while having no information about you (mystery), and she is lubricated. Now, because you're a good listener, you've collected data points about her life, and areas where you can relate to her.
"When you said X, I could relate with you because X happened to me."
Since you'll be doing the majority of the talking, you'll need to pause to drink. She should follow. Pay attention to the non-verbals here. She'll start giving you vibe to make a play. Stop mid-sentence if you need to, and escalate from there. As a note; I don't show women any area of my house except common area and bar/kitchen for any reason unless we are fucking. That's me. She's there to drink and converse. If we fuck, it's my decision, and I don't need her approval of my bedroom, or home. That's me.
To answer the question more directly, I keep her engaged in the conversation while I am making the drink. I will bring her inside with me to make a drink if necessary.
"Hey, I need another drink, come inside with me." You're keeping her engaged and testing compliance. I will escalate and kino on the walk to making drinks, escalate while making drinks... I'm ALWAYS testing and probing for opportunities and compliance. If this is done well, you'll be in a natural state of continual conversation, with a lot of laughing and humor. Once the kissing starts, pull her in. If she gives in, you're good. Follow your gut. If it's the bedroom, great, if it's the living room, fine. Whatever it takes. If not, and the work/school/cat bath/bday party comes up, re-attempt with the refreshed drink, but start talking about her again. Open ended questions. This could work, but at this point it should have resulted in a bang by now. You may be working on a dry well at this point. Again, this is why the heavy lifting is done at the first location.
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Most of my first dates are Sun-Thurs as I keep the weekends open for myself or women I've already banged.
You may want to re-evaluate this a little bit. It's not a bad thing to give a potential bang a weekend night. Use your sure thing as the backup for later in the night, if necessary.
Again, you need to make sure that she has the availability to stay out late. I don't really deal with that at this point, either. If it's happening, it's gonna happen. Work be damned.
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Can you elaborate on this technique a little more?
Sure. If I sense any kind of LMR potential, even mid kiss, hands up the shirt, or her hands on my cock, I'll get up and make another drink. I'll stop all kino and escalation, pick up the conversation from where we left off, and start sipping my drink casually. It's complete reverse psychology, and it works. Most women have never faced a man getting up mid makeout. Confidence is key here, though. You've got to have the "I don't give a fuck if we fuck tonight or not." mentality. This only works if you're almost certain that you're gonna fuck but there is minor resistance, or something is just a little off. You can't do it as a power play. It'll backfire.
