[tommyb]

Do u think it's OK or it's something wrong?(In case everything is fine with the relationship)

I think men different than women, our biological need is to have sex with different women, but all I hear from men around me that once u love someone you must be only with her.

I'm in relationship almost 10 years(don't want to leave her) and had couple of ONS, which I think are not enough.
How should I do it to not get caught?

Night game is not possible in my situation.

[Aquiles_Baesta_Parada]

R.I.P. Grammar

[tommyb]

(07-13-2015 08:44 AM)Aquiles_Baesta_Parada Wrote:  

R.I.P. Grammar

funny boy
I'm from Russia

[TheMaleBrain]

When I was maried, I was loyal.
You took a vow, so keep it.

However
You have decided to have ONS's and be "less loyal". Without night game you have several options:
1. Prostitues (Not kidding, it is an option).
2. Sugar daddy - if you can keep some cash on the side and sponser a young girl - you will have regular access to poon.
3. Day game in other cities - if you are away sometimes, game during the day, try to convert to insta-dates and bang. Logistic will be crucial.
4. Online hookup sites for married persons - If you are good looking, this will work. Make sure to leave no trace.

When caought, use Roiisy's maxim #31:

Quote:

If you plan on cheating and subsequently get caught, act like a total dick who did nothing wrong. Your girlfriend will then wonder if it’s something she did

It is from the old website which is no longer available, but HL published them - HERE.

[not_dead_yet]

(07-13-2015 08:10 AM)tommyb Wrote:  

How should I do it to not get caught?

Don't have kids yet? File for divorce and get out now, or tell her you want an open marriage.

You're going to get caught eventually. The only question is timing and how she responds, so why not force the issue now instead of having to put your kids through the mill and split another 10 years worth of assets.

[Engineer]

(07-13-2015 08:47 AM)tommyb Wrote:  

(07-13-2015 08:44 AM)Aquiles_Baesta_Parada Wrote:  

R.I.P. Grammar

funny boy
I'm from Russia

My take is to give the guys with english as a second language a pass, as long as they follow the forum rules and aren't douches. I don't recall bad grammar being one of the rules, is it? (except for text-speak which is different than this)

Men globally need RVF, it's international. They get great game advice and work on language skills at the same time, win-win.

OP: You're in Russia you can do WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT!!! Lucky bastard!!!

[tommyb]

(07-13-2015 09:20 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  

When I was maried, I was loyal.
You took a vow, so keep it.

However
You have decided to have ONS's and be "less loyal". Without night game you have several options:
1. Prostitues (Not kidding, it is an option).
2. Sugar daddy - if you can keep some cash on the side and sponser a young girl - you will have regular access to poon.
3. Day game in other cities - if you are away sometimes, game during the day, try to convert to insta-dates and bang. Logistic will be crucial.
4. Online hookup sites for married persons - If you are good looking, this will work. Make sure to leave no trace.

1. No
2. No
3. It's an option
4. Ugly women

About loyalty, I thought people on this forum aren't feminists.

[FrenchCanadian]

Quote:

About loyalty, I thought people on this forum aren't feminists.

[s3k]

Theres a datasheet in these forums concerning this topic. Definitly worth the read. I've beenbin a long term relationship for years. It's a happy one because I cheat and hide it well.
- Burner phone
- fake names (though i sometimes forget the names i give girls)
- cheat when ur supposed to be at work (or wherever else ypur supposed to be)
-be paranoid
- go read roosh's blog, he talks about this subject as well.
it is possible to cheat and have a happy relationship at the same time. Start looking up those datasheets.

[BostonBMW]

I got busted cheating on a GF once, amazing thing was that the GF and the other woman were both "willing to give me another chance"

My advice beyond what as already been stated:

- Try to hook up at her place.
- If you have cash, seekingarrangement might be a good option, provided you give fake names.
- If you are truly committed to the cause, you might as well create a second persona (with fake ids, burner phone etc.)
- Pick up a hobby that you know your wife will not enjoy. For example, if she hates golf, then bring her out one time and then start dipping out on certain days.
- Maintain your frame with the wife. Don't act too happy or too disinterested. Women have a sixth sense about this thing.

To reiterate, you WILL get caught, just make sure that you have a game plan for dealing with it.

Right now, I am laying low with my LTR because I have full deck (work, side hustles, studying, and gym) and I'm just happy to bang her a few times a week and keep doing my thing. She realizes this and stays off my back.

Right now, I just like to fearlessly hit on women. Doesn't matter if its the library where I'm studying, restaurant where I have business meetings or even at the lobby of my office. Don't stop the macking and opportunities continue to multiply. I am not usually able to follow through on my leads because I'm on to the next item. It's damn sad.

[forever_beta]

(07-13-2015 08:10 AM)tommyb Wrote:  

Do u think it's OK or it's something wrong?(In case everything is fine with the relationship)

I think its fine especially if you're married. Having a wife and especially kids is serious business and one true but ugly side of life I've had to face head on is the necessity of lieing to people to make them happy. I used to pride myself on my honesty and integrity with women but in a serious relationship with feelings, finances, parenting, and responsibility involved real life hits and things get more complex.

You need to keep the peace in your household to maintain happiness for everyone and a good healthy vibe at home. In order to do this authentically you need to be happy and for some men that probably includes having some sex with other women. Fucking other women also helps you stay alpha and in turn can benefit your LTR relationship.

The main risk of course is getting caught, which is pretty much guaranteed in the long run. You have to evaluate your needs and happiness for what could be many years or even the rest of your life starting now with the possible consequences. If you're alpha with her then even if she catches you she may forgive you, but this can never be guaranteed. You have to be ready to risk losing this woman and all the consequences that entails to take a chance at happiness in your life.

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I'm in relationship almost 10 years(don't want to leave her) and had couple of ONS, which I think are not enough.
How should I do it to not get caught?

Night game is not possible in my situation.

There are already several threads with good advice on how to go about the business without getting caught.

How to do it?
- Pay: Hookers / sugar daddy
- Craigslist for anonymous internet sex. There is a very good thread about this.
- Get with a girl at work - I wouldn't recommend this if it can be helped. Depending on the situation, this can have all kinds of risks for your employment status.
- Online dating, but this risks putting your pictures where she or one of her single/cheating friends can see.
- Day game approaching - Try to eat lunch at a public place, get new before/after work hobbies without your LTR. Find a way to be in a place to meet girls during your "work and hobby hours".
- Start going to the gym more often (5 days a week) and use some of those days for spending time with girls. Be careful she doesn't get suspicious and go to your gym to check on you when you're supposed to be working out there. Its probably better to get a membership at a different gym than her. You will also have to spend time at the actual gym lest she questions your lack of growth.
- Hang out with guy friends once in a while. Make this a pattern so its normal in your lifestyle with her. Then you can have them lie for you when you go to night game or go out and night game with you.
- Business trips - you can try to pipeline new girls online to maximize your weekend.
- Be a workaholic - Start working late more often and taking your job very seriously, at least ostensibly. It helps if your boss/a coworker is down and would back you up if your wife called but its still better to never tell anyone about your cheating.
- Get your LTR to do threesomes - Its possible with the right girl, esp if shes had sex with a girl before in the past.

[Deepdiver]

There is another option to add spice to an old routine married life and that is include her in your fantasies at Swinger Parties.

You get to tap some strange and she gets to ride some strange... the solid understanding at swingers parties is it is only about great sex - no love - no shattering marriages - just some strange to spice up your lives and add a new element of excitement - the better clubs have intake rules to protect everyone's marriages as the idea is NOT to make divorce lawyers rich...

She knows who you went off with and you know who she went off with and it is what it is - If you are happy together as a couple and do not want to explode a financially viable marriage but need to spice things up this is a surprisingly popular option.

[Sonoma]

140 dollars to bust on an Asian massage therapist's face is money well spent. If you can't afford to drop that every month then you have bigger issues than being married.

[lavidaloca]

"Business trip"

[Helium1]

If you live on a third world country hire high class prostitutes(only few people have access to them.) Otherwise learn game and bang girls in the developed world. Man, I do miss living in the third world at times one could go to sauna(high class one) and the girls would just give out blow jobs. As opposed here you got to game them. I think for a married man high class prostitution might be a feasible choice.

[tommyb]

About day game, the only thing that bothers me is that the other chicks will try to ruin my relationship if they meet me with her somewhere in the city, or they will call me on purpose at night or something.

[forever_beta]

(07-14-2015 01:41 AM)tommyb Wrote:  

About day game, the only thing that bothers me is that the other chicks will try to ruin my relationship if they meet me with her somewhere in the city, or they will call me on purpose at night or something.

Try to do your gaming in the next town over or somewhere outside of where you'd usually go with your LTR to avoid an accidental meetup.

As for getting randomly called at night, I really hope you are putting these hoes on a burner number, google voice, or an entirely separate phone. Keep that shit turned off and hidden when you're at home with LTR.

[tommyb]

(07-14-2015 07:55 AM)forever_beta Wrote:  

As for getting randomly called at night, I really hope you are putting these hoes on a burner number, google voice, or an entirely separate phone. Keep that shit turned off and hidden when you're at home with LTR.

The problem is that most of them ask for my phone number when they give me theirs, I use my real number for 8,9,10 and a burner for 6 and 7(don't like to change the SIM all the time). I guess a bitch with a high value like 9 won't desperately call me

I have an app that can block the calls, but again they can call from a different number.

[Suits]

(07-14-2015 09:04 AM)tommyb Wrote:  

(07-14-2015 07:55 AM)forever_beta Wrote:  

As for getting randomly called at night, I really hope you are putting these hoes on a burner number, google voice, or an entirely separate phone. Keep that shit turned off and hidden when you're at home with LTR.

The problem is that most of them ask for my phone number when they give me theirs, I use my real number for 8,9,10 and a burner for 6 and 7(don't like to change the SIM all the time). I guess a bitch with a high value like 9 won't desperately call me

I have an app that can block the calls, but again they can call from a different number.

Solution: Use your burner phone for all of the girls.

Problem solved.

[PapayaTapper]

(07-13-2015 10:45 PM)Helium1 Wrote:  

I do miss living in the third world at times one could go to sauna(high class one) and the girls would just give out blow jobs.

What 3rd world country and high class sauna do the girls "just give out blow jobs"?...Specifically