[krazyhorze]

I know I sound like a moron.... I know, I know.

I was seeing this girl for 6 months and things were good but I got too clingy and she wanted a "break". At least, I learned something here and just said ok. Complete radio silence on my part (pretty proud of myself) and now she wants me back badly. She says she still loves me and will do anything to have me back in her life. I can see other girls and it's ok, just no 3somes.

While on the brake from girl one, I met girl 2. She just moved to my city and left a boyfriend back at home. She has been her for almost a year and still carries a torch for her "boyfriend". Things are going great with her but during an innocent conversation she said, "see whom ever you want, it's ok, I can't stop you, I don't want to hold you back, we are friends who happen to have sex". I kept it kinda cool, but not really. Why am I so upset that these girls don't mind or don't care to be with me exclusively. Any solutions, what do I do, I'm I a real moron, Is this a gift, Is this just nature of dating today?

Thank you.

[LINUX]

It's nature bro and it's the reality in our culture.

A quick story:

I was fucking my Spanish tutor in Colombia. One day she said something to me that really struck a chord.

"Men here think they know us, but times have changed for us. Truth is, we fuck whoever we want and do what we want. We just pretend we don't."

Now that's Colombia which is considered by many to be fairly conservative. Multiply that by 20 in the USA. Both of your chicks are probably taking dick from other guys.

I think you're a little jealous and hurt that she doesn't want you all to herself. That's completely normal but I find that once you sleep with a large amount of women on a consistent basis, you get less jealous and it doesn't seem to matter so much anymore, but just starting out in the world, it's going to happen and like i said, what you're feeling is normal.

People also have a defense mechanism where when they meet someone completely sexy and perfect for them, they run the other way. It keeps them from being hurt which often times is inevitable in a relationship and a marriage. This defense mechanism may be why we lie, put on fronts, and seem a bit superficial. I don't know. I'm no psychologist. Your girl may be keeping her distance from you for this reason.

Don't beat yourself up. If you figure out the answers to some of these questions, write a book and make millions but I don't think there are any concrete answers to sex, jealousy, envy and commitment . You just got to enjoy the sex while it last and live in the moment.

[germanico]

(07-08-2015 02:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

"Men here think they know us, but times have changed for us. Truth is, we fuck whoever we want and do what we want. We just pretend we don't."

Same for Mexico. A big percentage of the girls im fucking with or have held as fuck buddies where married or had boyfriends. Or had someone at the side.

This is why y always chuckle when someone here says hes moving to south america because american girls are not loyal.

Ok, they are not, only that they no longer care about hiding it.



Now, on about the original question:

Girl 1: She fucked someone on the side (either when she was with you or when you took "a brake"), feels guilty about it and wants you to fuck someone else or otherwise to have a reason to justify not being exclusive/loyal towards you.

As much as she says she loves you, dont fall for that. Shes not loyal and that relationship is tainted. Keep her, if at alll, only as a fuck buddy. (Not "friends with benefits" she is not your friend, and she get no benefits from you, other than her weekly dose of Vitamin Dick.)

Girl 2: Is fucking someone on the side and wants you to do too so you wont get too clingy or default to believing you are in a relationship. Keep her as a fuck buddy, but expect nothing else from her.

The reason you are feeling like that is because your mind game is weak and your thoughts are not in the right order. You feel they are not being reciprocal because you are seeing them as "something else", you are treating them like you would treat a woman who you want a romantic relationship with (thus, the clingyness) but, all the while, you are only offering them a sexual relationship.

In other words, all they get from you is sex, you want them to love you for other reason than the sex. You are offering them wooing and romance and all you deliver is sex. They take the sex, but are trying to push away the wooing.

Heres what to do:

1- Dont see any of this 2 girls more than once a week. Never on the weekends, those are "your" days".
2- Use the weekends and free time to socialize and game, to multiply your sexual options.
3- Find something thats more interesting to you than women (since your sexual needs should be met by seeing 2 women plus gaming that shouldnt be hard to do) to keep your mind busy in something other than petty women related frustrations. One does not "loves" you? Who gives a fuck? You have 5 more this week.
4- When and if you meet a girl you want to to be exclusive with you, then treat her with the benefits. Not before.
5- Game more, live more, and multiply your options (with women, money, life, etc). This way you will find you own "nature of dating", which is different for every man.

[OregonToSoCal]

(07-08-2015 02:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

People also have a defense mechanism where when they meet someone completely sexy and perfect for them, they run the other way. It keeps them from being hurt which often times is inevitable in a relationship and a marriage.

This explains why I can never get a second date out of these women!

Joking aside, @Linux is right OP. Back in my beta oneitis days about 20 years ago I was as jealous and insecure as humanly possible. After banging scores of women over the last 4 years not much even registers on my jealously radar anymore....

[hypnotoad]

You want to fuck around, but want to feel like you are each chick in your harems one and only, that you satisfy her so completely that all other men are junk to her. A feeling as natural as sex itself. Just be careful it doesn't baloon into full on jealousy! Rock on.

[CleanSlate]

Any time a girl says "it's ok, you can go ahead and see/sleep with other women if you want, I don't mind", all I hear is "I'm getting dick from other men."

What you do depends on what you want out of this woman. If you just want to bang, smile and don't say anything. Take her home and bang (wrap up!).

[Barron]

(07-08-2015 02:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

It's nature bro and it's the reality in our culture.

A quick story:

I was fucking my Spanish tutor in Colombia. One day she said something to me that really struck a chord.

"Men here think they know us, but times have changed for us. Truth is, we fuck whoever we want and do what we want. We just pretend we don't."

Goddamn that's fucking gross. In your opinion, what % of Colombian girls live that way?

[coverdoc]

(07-08-2015 03:33 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 02:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

"Men here think they know us, but times have changed for us. Truth is, we fuck whoever we want and do what we want. We just pretend we don't."

Same for Mexico. A big percentage of the girls im fucking with or have held as fuck buddies where married or had boyfriends. Or had someone at the side.

Read this post and instantly thought about the last time I was in DF. Chick came to my room, was grinding on top of me getting naked and proceeded to tell me "yo tengo novio, pero no me importa" I thought wow

-CD

[krazyhorze]

(07-08-2015 08:32 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 03:33 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 02:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

"Men here think they know us, but times have changed for us. Truth is, we fuck whoever we want and do what we want. We just pretend we don't."

Same for Mexico. A big percentage of the girls im fucking with or have held as fuck buddies where married or had boyfriends. Or had someone at the side.

Read this post and instantly thought about the last time I was in DF. Chick came to my room, was grinding on top of me getting naked and proceeded to tell me "yo tengo novio, pero no me importa" I thought wow

-CD

Thank you gentleman.... I figured as much. Just trying to handle the emotions.

[BCien]

(07-08-2015 03:33 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 02:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

"Men here think they know us, but times have changed for us. Truth is, we fuck whoever we want and do what we want. We just pretend we don't."

Same for Mexico. A big percentage of the girls im fucking with or have held as fuck buddies where married or had boyfriends. Or had someone at the side.

This is why y always chuckle when someone here says hes moving to south america because american girls are not loyal.

Ok, they are not, only that they no longer care about hiding it.



Now, on about the original question:

Girl 1: She fucked someone on the side (either when she was with you or when you took "a brake"), feels guilty about it and wants you to fuck someone else or otherwise to have a reason to justify not being exclusive/loyal towards you.

As much as she says she loves you, dont fall for that. Shes not loyal and that relationship is tainted. Keep her, if at alll, only as a fuck buddy. (Not "friends with benefits" she is not your friend, and she get no benefits from you, other than her weekly dose of Vitamin Dick.)

Girl 2: Is fucking someone on the side and wants you to do too so you wont get too clingy or default to believing you are in a relationship. Keep her as a fuck buddy, but expect nothing else from her.

The reason you are feeling like that is because your mind game is weak and your thoughts are not in the right order. You feel they are not being reciprocal because you are seeing them as "something else", you are treating them like you would treat a woman who you want a romantic relationship with (thus, the clingyness) but, all the while, you are only offering them a sexual relationship.

In other words, all they get from you is sex, you want them to love you for other reason than the sex. You are offering them wooing and romance and all you deliver is sex. They take the sex, but are trying to push away the wooing.

Heres what to do:

1- Dont see any of this 2 girls more than once a week. Never on the weekends, those are "your" days".
2- Use the weekends and free time to socialize and game, to multiply your sexual options.
3- Find something thats more interesting to you than women (since your sexual needs should be met by seeing 2 women plus gaming that shouldnt be hard to do) to keep your mind busy in something other than petty women related frustrations. One does not "loves" you? Who gives a fuck? You have 5 more this week.
4- When and if you meet a girl you want to to be exclusive with you, then treat her with the benefits. Not before.
5- Game more, live more, and multiply your options (with women, money, life, etc). This way you will find you own "nature of dating", which is different for every man.

Asi es!

I just recently returned from Mexico and I got surprised how similar to the U.S. things are getting and Im talking about the Altos de Jalisco region which is supposed to be one of the most conservative parts of Mexico, not that all hell is breaking loose but as mentioned here earlier they just act like they don't have other guys on the side when in reality they take all kinds of cocks here and there.

[CleanSlate]

Not to belabor the point, but I also reckon the same girls that tell you "hey! No girls while I'm not around!" are the same girls who are getting something on the side. (EDIT: with this post, my post count reads 666 ... that's an omen when dealing with women like this).

[robreke]

(07-09-2015 04:11 PM)BCien Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 03:33 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 02:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

"Men here think they know us, but times have changed for us. Truth is, we fuck whoever we want and do what we want. We just pretend we don't."

Same for Mexico. A big percentage of the girls im fucking with or have held as fuck buddies where married or had boyfriends. Or had someone at the side.

This is why y always chuckle when someone here says hes moving to south america because american girls are not loyal.

Ok, they are not, only that they no longer care about hiding it.



Now, on about the original question:

Girl 1: She fucked someone on the side (either when she was with you or when you took "a brake"), feels guilty about it and wants you to fuck someone else or otherwise to have a reason to justify not being exclusive/loyal towards you.

As much as she says she loves you, dont fall for that. Shes not loyal and that relationship is tainted. Keep her, if at alll, only as a fuck buddy. (Not "friends with benefits" she is not your friend, and she get no benefits from you, other than her weekly dose of Vitamin Dick.)

Girl 2: Is fucking someone on the side and wants you to do too so you wont get too clingy or default to believing you are in a relationship. Keep her as a fuck buddy, but expect nothing else from her.

The reason you are feeling like that is because your mind game is weak and your thoughts are not in the right order. You feel they are not being reciprocal because you are seeing them as "something else", you are treating them like you would treat a woman who you want a romantic relationship with (thus, the clingyness) but, all the while, you are only offering them a sexual relationship.

In other words, all they get from you is sex, you want them to love you for other reason than the sex. You are offering them wooing and romance and all you deliver is sex. They take the sex, but are trying to push away the wooing.

Heres what to do:

1- Dont see any of this 2 girls more than once a week. Never on the weekends, those are "your" days".
2- Use the weekends and free time to socialize and game, to multiply your sexual options.
3- Find something thats more interesting to you than women (since your sexual needs should be met by seeing 2 women plus gaming that shouldnt be hard to do) to keep your mind busy in something other than petty women related frustrations. One does not "loves" you? Who gives a fuck? You have 5 more this week.
4- When and if you meet a girl you want to to be exclusive with you, then treat her with the benefits. Not before.
5- Game more, live more, and multiply your options (with women, money, life, etc). This way you will find you own "nature of dating", which is different for every man.

Asi es!

I just recently returned from Mexico and I got surprised how similar to the U.S. things are getting and Im talking about the Altos de Jalisco region which is supposed to be one of the most conservative parts of Mexico, not that all hell is breaking loose but as mentioned here earlier they just act like they don't have other guys on the side when in reality they take all kinds of cocks here and there.

^ Anyone know if this level of slutdom has struck EE yet? Like, are Ukrainian girls that bad as the SA/ Colombian girls?

[krazyhorze]

(07-09-2015 05:08 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 04:11 PM)BCien Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 03:33 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 02:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

"Men here think they know us, but times have changed for us. Truth is, we fuck whoever we want and do what we want. We just pretend we don't."

Same for Mexico. A big percentage of the girls im fucking with or have held as fuck buddies where married or had boyfriends. Or had someone at the side.

This is why y always chuckle when someone here says hes moving to south america because american girls are not loyal.

Ok, they are not, only that they no longer care about hiding it.



Now, on about the original question:

Girl 1: She fucked someone on the side (either when she was with you or when you took "a brake"), feels guilty about it and wants you to fuck someone else or otherwise to have a reason to justify not being exclusive/loyal towards you.

As much as she says she loves you, dont fall for that. Shes not loyal and that relationship is tainted. Keep her, if at alll, only as a fuck buddy. (Not "friends with benefits" she is not your friend, and she get no benefits from you, other than her weekly dose of Vitamin Dick.)

Girl 2: Is fucking someone on the side and wants you to do too so you wont get too clingy or default to believing you are in a relationship. Keep her as a fuck buddy, but expect nothing else from her.

The reason you are feeling like that is because your mind game is weak and your thoughts are not in the right order. You feel they are not being reciprocal because you are seeing them as "something else", you are treating them like you would treat a woman who you want a romantic relationship with (thus, the clingyness) but, all the while, you are only offering them a sexual relationship.

In other words, all they get from you is sex, you want them to love you for other reason than the sex. You are offering them wooing and romance and all you deliver is sex. They take the sex, but are trying to push away the wooing.

Heres what to do:

1- Dont see any of this 2 girls more than once a week. Never on the weekends, those are "your" days".
2- Use the weekends and free time to socialize and game, to multiply your sexual options.
3- Find something thats more interesting to you than women (since your sexual needs should be met by seeing 2 women plus gaming that shouldnt be hard to do) to keep your mind busy in something other than petty women related frustrations. One does not "loves" you? Who gives a fuck? You have 5 more this week.
4- When and if you meet a girl you want to to be exclusive with you, then treat her with the benefits. Not before.
5- Game more, live more, and multiply your options (with women, money, life, etc). This way you will find you own "nature of dating", which is different for every man.

Asi es!

I just recently returned from Mexico and I got surprised how similar to the U.S. things are getting and Im talking about the Altos de Jalisco region which is supposed to be one of the most conservative parts of Mexico, not that all hell is breaking loose but as mentioned here earlier they just act like they don't have other guys on the side when in reality they take all kinds of cocks here and there.

^ Anyone know if this level of slutdom has struck EE yet? Like, are Ukrainian girls that bad as the SA/ Colombian girls?

Take this article with a grain of salt. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/...ul-5188791

It's an epidemic. I have given up on a lot of pie in the sky notions about love. It appears I have one more to lose.

[pitt]

See her for what she is. She is a slut, she doesn't love you and she is looking for just sex with you. Why should that bother you? Keep on banging her and seeing other girls.

[birthday cat]

(07-08-2015 08:11 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 02:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

It's nature bro and it's the reality in our culture.

A quick story:

I was fucking my Spanish tutor in Colombia. One day she said something to me that really struck a chord.

"Men here think they know us, but times have changed for us. Truth is, we fuck whoever we want and do what we want. We just pretend we don't."

Goddamn that's fucking gross. In your opinion, what % of Colombian girls live that way?

Many of the Latin girls hooking up with tourists, even longer term visitors, are doing it because those guys are here today and gone tomorrow. It's par for the course for any girl you hook up that speaks English or lives, works, or hangs out in tourist areas.

I was in a city of over 6 million people in South America exchanging stories with other guys about girls we had hooked up with. A guy pulls out his phone and shows naked pictures that one of the girls sent him. I pulled out my phone and showed everyone the exact same pictures. This girl lived quite far from the tourist area but we had both been with her and she sent us both the same pictures afterward.