[mickeytee]

Hey guys,

So I thought I'd just go ahead and post this introductory thread. Things seems tight around here with lots of banning, I wonder if I'll get banned if I wait too long to make my first post.

Here's my situation. Through my teenage years I hated the fact that I had the misfortune of being born in India. But, I can't emigrate any time soon. If you want to get out of India young, the most easily accessible road is to work your ass off and get accepted to a foreign college. I'm neither rich, nor have I worked hard in high school, nor will I get picked by a model agency or something.

I can say with some certainty that there are more progressive/attractive Indians in India than members on this forum think. I've been exposed to quite a few of them in interschool fests and other events involving people mostly in the 17-25 age group. Although, the attractive girls become unavailable really fast. Blink and you'll miss it. I don't know if their promiscuity is even remotely comparable to girls in the West. Moving slowly and excessive romantic foreplay is the general way to go around here... but maybe, just maybe, if you push the right buttons, girls here can be gamed fast.

Anyway so, I'm applying for a Bioinformatics program in Delhi after a failed trial at the med school entrances. Big city, people are more open, more oppurtunities (first thing I'm doing is joining a Toastmasters when I get there), and the best arena in India to get hustlin'. I'm moving around from city to city for college entrance exams right now and was in Delhi recently. Most white people and pretty girls I've seen ever, in person.

I'm not entirely inexperienced. I can be funny without being a clown, I've had attractive girlfriends in high school. I do have some social anxiety and trouble opening up to new people, or atleast I think I do. I speak in British RP and have a deep voice, which gives me huge first impression points (picked it up doing voice over work for online audio libraries).

I'm also short at 5'7" but I shrug it off, nothing I can do about it. I don't have access to a gym, so I do calisthenics and am fairly aesthetic (easy to build muscle if you're short, lol). I'm okay looking but won't make it into the hot class without some work (haircut, grooming), I'm light-skinned and look more Arab than Indian.

Right now I'm just sitting at home waiting to travel to Delhi again for interviews. When I start college I plan on following Mark Manson's approach program. It'd be great if you have any suggestions on what to anticipate in college life, things to do when moving to a new city, networking and building social circles, anything at all. Thanks for taking the time to read this!

[456]

[Gmac]

I don't know firsthand what life is like in India but I would highly suggest making friends with as many groups of people as you can. Social circle game is college is king. You sound like a smart, sensible guy, so my recommendation if you want to get women is to align yourself with like-minded men who are already good with women. Befriend them, go out with them, learn from and with them. The easiest way to do this is to just start up a conversation. Trial and error.

[Cobra]

Welcome to the forum, mickeytee.

I'm also from India although I had the "fortune" to emigrate to the USA when I was 12 years of age. There are still days when I think life would have been simpler and more satisfying if I hadn't left.

I can count on my one hand how many Indians I have met In the USA that say and pretend they are progressive but are the complete opposite. It takes a lot to understand the western way of life and its values while also keeping your own Indian ones intact. I still struggle with it immensely.

As a matter of fact lots of Indians are so shocked by the western culture once they emigrate that they build a shell around themselves and refuse to assimilate. I think you place too much value on the western way of life.

Before you think you need to leave India and head to the west, think long and hard about what you will be giving up. You will likely end up swimming in pussy. However, you will miss India. And given how far large metropolitan cities have come, if you can have a decent standard of living in India, you can still expect a steady stream of all kinds of girls coming there whom you can game as long as your style and vibe are tight.

I hope you've heard the saying "the grass is greener on the other side." I speak from experience.

[mickeytee]

Hey Gmac and Cobra. Sorry for the late reply, I haven't really logged into the forum recently as I was still out looking for a college that I can get admitted to and won't regret spending the next very important 5 years in.

@Gmac: That's what I've heard. I'm a bit of a loner and am more comfortable talking to girls solo though. Learning social circle game will be quite a challenge. I was intially thinking I'd steer clear of people in my college and work on approaching girls in the city for the first few months, but then I guess it would be even harder to build a social circle once things have more or less been established and people start to refer to me as "that guy who spends way too much time off campus". So I'll work on SCG first. Gotta start reading that Dale Carnegie, lol.

@Cobra: I'm intrigued, could you be a bit more specific? What values (from either side) are you referring to? Have you lived in India for an extended period after being Westernised?

I'm not saying that any particular place is perfect. America sure as hell isn't, I can't imagine settling there, but I just feel like life in India is very limited. There's nothing off the top of my head that I feel only India can provide me. Even if there are things that I will profoundly miss about this country, I won't know them until I've lived in other places.

I just know one thing, I want to have a wide range of experiences. There will be things I like and things that I don't everywhere I go, but I'll take that over staying in one particular place.

Heck, college will be a pretty radical experience, moving out of my parents house and living in a city where I know nobody. And as I adjust to that, I mustn't allow myself to become the kind of guy who chooses settling in one place over exploring.
__________________________________________________________________
Unrelated, I started learning German cause you can get free tertiary education in Germany if you're well versed in the language, and I'm moving there after getting my Master's in Nanotech. Lots of research and internship oppurtunities too.

[mickeytee]

Darn this forum's no delete messages policy. Here sits a blank message that had been mistakenly posted.

[Gmac]

I really think you would benefit from getting out of your comfort zone and befriending at least one guy to go out with. Once you've experienced the wingman dynamic, game becomes an entirely different experience. I recommend putting a bit more effort into this. Even if you don't end up with a large social circle you will become better at interacting with and deflecting other guys who might otherwise walk out with "your" girl.

[mickeytee]

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. There should be quite a few guys I can rely on and connect with in that big a sample size.