[thunder_god]

Right now I'm deadset on Paris but I'm having a hard time deciding between Germany (Berlin), Poland (Wroclaw or Krakow) , Austria (Vienna), Hungary (Budapest) or Sweden (Stockholm or Gothenburg). I'll be spending 1 week in Paris and about 6-7 days in the other European country. I hear asian guys do really well in all of these countries especially Poland, but at the same time Poland seems very boring to be spending a week here. I would have a lot more to do in Germany, but I'm not sure how well I would do with the ladies there. Also not sure about Austria and Hungary but Budha posted several videos of girls he # closed in those two countries and the girls there were pretty good looking especially Austria.

[The Eradicator]

I haven't been to all of the cities you say you're considering, but I have been to some. What is the focus of your game? If you're a nightgame focused person - and you are good at pulling ONS in North America - you will probably like the nightlife in Berlin and do well there. It has good nightlife, but it's not a particularly easy place to pull. I don't think you would be bored in Wroclaw or Krakow, but you would be if you went to a smaller Polish city and had nothing to do (e.g. internet business, work) besides game. I haven't been to Vienna so I can't comment on how it compares.

I'll throw out two more suggestions you might want to consider: Bucharest and Kyiv. Both are large cities with a lot to do and have lots of beautiful women.

You mentioned you're an Asian guy and I definitely recall having seen Asian guys with good looking girls in Poland, Romania and Ukraine. But especially Ukraine. It's hard to tell whether girls in Ukraine like Asian guys because they're Asian (as they seem to in Poland due to curiosity and first Asian foreigner type effect) or whether it's that Asian guys bring usually a sense of stability - having a job, being responsible and not cheating, drinking or smoking as much as the average Ukrainian guy. I recall seeing a lot of average looking Asian guys with girls I would consider to be 8s. Funnily enough, there was even a story a while ago covered here on the Forum about this Asian guy and his Ukrainian wife and their happy life together.

Moreover, I think 6-7 days in Poland, Ukraine or Romania is not going to net you a whole lot unless you're either good at getting ONS from nightgame or really good at closing on the first date (because in 6-7 days you'll probably only have a few unless you pipeline really, really well beforehand). You really need a minimum of 2 weeks to set yourself up nicely in one of these places.

If your goal is just to get laid as much as possible in those 6-7 days it's probably better to visit Northern England/Scotland or Sweden.

[thunder_god]

(06-08-2015 06:42 AM)The Eradicator Wrote:  

I haven't been to all of the cities you say you're considering, but I have been to some. What is the focus of your game? If you're a nightgame focused person - and you are good at pulling ONS in North America - you will probably like the nightlife in Berlin and do well there. It has good nightlife, but it's not a particularly easy place to pull. I don't think you would be bored in Wroclaw or Krakow, but you would be if you went to a smaller Polish city and had nothing to do (e.g. internet business, work) besides game. I haven't been to Vienna so I can't comment on how it compares.

I'll throw out two more suggestions you might want to consider: Bucharest and Kyiv. Both are large cities with a lot to do and have lots of beautiful women.

You mentioned you're an Asian guy and I definitely recall having seen Asian guys with good looking girls in Poland, Romania and Ukraine. But especially Ukraine. It's hard to tell whether girls in Ukraine like Asian guys because they're Asian (as they seem to in Poland due to curiosity and first Asian foreigner type effect) or whether it's that Asian guys bring usually a sense of stability - having a job, being responsible and not cheating, drinking or smoking as much as the average Ukrainian guy. I recall seeing a lot of average looking Asian guys with girls I would consider to be 8s. Funnily enough, there was even a story a while ago covered here on the Forum about this Asian guy and his Ukrainian wife and their happy life together.

Moreover, I think 6-7 days in Poland, Ukraine or Romania is not going to net you a whole lot unless you're either good at getting ONS from nightgame or really good at closing on the first date (because in 6-7 days you'll probably only have a few unless you pipeline really, really well beforehand). You really need a minimum of 2 weeks to set yourself up nicely in one of these places.

If your goal is just to get laid as much as possible in those 6-7 days it's probably better to visit Northern England/Scotland or Sweden.

I've done a combination of the two. I spent several months last year trying to learn game out here in Toronto hitting the streets during the day for several hours and then a few hours a night doing street game or club game. I've only managed to do around 300 or so approaches so far, and I consider myself to still be a beginner, although a more advanced beginner. I don't know which one I find easier lol as I find the girls in the club more eager to hook up but at the same time I have to deal with fierce competition, really loud music, plus too much $hit going on in the club, plus paying cover. For street game, I find it takes more work but at the same time I can actually talk to the person. I also tried online dating and hated that shit. Also what do you mean by pipelining? Are you referring to try and know girls before you land in the country? I've been trying that strategy for my trip to Paris with French girls. So far I only managed to get Skype contact info from two french chicks but the timezone is making it very difficult to get in touch with them.

I'm not really expecting much from this trip except better success then here in Toronto, which is pretty bad. When I hit up Pittsburgh about a month ago, my success with women went way up, and the USA is suppose to be really bad for gaming. Frankly I would be satisfied if I got a few make-outs and perhaps 1-2 dates. If I get a ONS I would be ecstatic . I set my expectations pretty low for this trip. Its more of a scouting mission if anything as I plan on vacationing for a longer period once I get back on my feet when I return back to Toronto from this trip. I want a city where I can do 1-2 attractions each day while experiencing the local culture + do 1-2 hrs of daygame and hit up a club 2-3 nights while in that city.

[Gopnik]

Wroclaw is a student city and will be dead during the summer, Krakow would probably be better. Why do you think a whole week in Poland would be boring? If the purpose of your trip is to game girls only then you won't have much time to do some tourism anyway. This being said though, I think you would be better off spending the whole 2 weeks in the same country. The sex speed is faster in scandinavia from what I hear but everything is also more expensive. Honestly, I think Poland is a safe bet, I can only imagine how bad Toronto must be for you to have such low expectations A few make outs in Krakow and perhaps a notch or two is more than doable if you stay there a couple of weeks.

[elgniak]

As an asian Myself , but born In paris .
I have been to Budapest ,Stockholm and Berlin .

I think i got more attention in Budapest But the cockblock is huge .
Everytime ,i was chatting with hungarians girls ,some hungarians guys stare at me all the chat .

Berlin , i was with my gf so not really in the mood .But didnt attract many attention.and i feel like undervalue because i am asian.

Stockhom ,the best girl i ever seen . and swedish guys are really cool .But it s more expensive than paris and be ready to some competition .

For me the best is Paris,i always got more attention in Paris .

[thunder_god]

(06-08-2015 10:31 AM)elgniak Wrote:  

As an asian Myself , but born In paris .
I have been to Budapest ,Stockholm and Berlin .

I think i got more attention in Budapest But the cockblock is huge .
Everytime ,i was chatting with hungarians girls ,some hungarians guys stare at me all the chat .

Berlin , i was with my gf so not really in the mood .But didnt attract many attention.and i feel like undervalue because i am asian.

Stockhom ,the best girl i ever seen . and swedish guys are really cool .But it s more expensive than paris and be ready to some competition .

For me the best is Paris,i always got more attention in Paris .

Do you recommend I stay just in Paris or would I do better outside of Paris in another city?

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

If you want to meet an Asian guy, just use craigslist.

[Mujeriego]

Take women out of the equation. Which cities interest you the most? Answer that question and book your flight.

[thunder_god]

(06-08-2015 08:59 AM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

Wroclaw is a student city and will be dead during the summer, Krakow would probably be better. Why do you think a whole week in Poland would be boring? If the purpose of your trip is to game girls only then you won't have much time to do some tourism anyway. This being said though, I think you would be better off spending the whole 2 weeks in the same country. The sex speed is faster in scandinavia from what I hear but everything is also more expensive. Honestly, I think Poland is a safe bet, I can only imagine how bad Toronto must be for you to have such low expectations A few make outs in Krakow and perhaps a notch or two is more than doable if you stay there a couple of weeks.

I originally wanted to go to Sweden but I got turned off by how expensive the country is. I will have to save Sweden and Scandinavia for a later time when I get back on my feet financially. I was really surprised at how much easier it was to game when I went over to Pittsburgh. I grinded with two chicks and made out with one of them and I was only there for one night. I also remember how much more friendlier and chill the people were in Vancouver last year. Girls are so stuck up that even some of the girls won't even accept my friend request on facebook from my class here in Toronto. Anyways fuck Toronto, its a feminist shit hole. Ideally I would have liked to spend 2 weeks in each country or one whole month in one of them, but that's not feasibility right now. I will have to make do with one week each and save that for a later time.

[thunder_god]

(06-08-2015 10:31 AM)elgniak Wrote:  

As an asian Myself , but born In paris .
I have been to Budapest ,Stockholm and Berlin .

I think i got more attention in Budapest But the cockblock is huge .
Everytime ,i was chatting with hungarians girls ,some hungarians guys stare at me all the chat .

Berlin , i was with my gf so not really in the mood .But didnt attract many attention.and i feel like undervalue because i am asian.

Stockhom ,the best girl i ever seen . and swedish guys are really cool .But it s more expensive than paris and be ready to some competition .

For me the best is Paris,i always got more attention in Paris .

Sweden was my top choice in addition to Paris but its too expensive for me right now lol. I was kind of deadset on Germany but now after reading all of this, I'm leaning more towards east europe. This is going to be a tough decision.

[germanico]

Laid with no game trolling.

[averagebritguy]

Definitely Budapest or Krakow...plenty of stuff to do there city + tourism + all summer long nightlife, a few decent places to meet cute girls, cheap to stay/party.

Just be aware in the summer Krakow will be more full of tourists than polish students.

I think your getting good advice to forget Berlin.

If you wanted to hit a few places...I'd do Budapest -> Vienna -> Prague (even though I'm no fan of Prague). Cheap to get about on the trains/bus, and the new ones are pretty good and often have cute girls too*

Have a blast whatever you choose man...good luck!



*Not included in ticket price

[thunder_god]

(06-08-2015 04:37 PM)averagebritguy Wrote:  

Definitely Budapest or Krakow...plenty of stuff to do there city + tourism + all summer long nightlife, a few decent places to meet cute girls, cheap to stay/party.

Just be aware in the summer Krakow will be more full of tourists than polish students.

I think your getting good advice to forget Berlin.

If you wanted to hit a few places...I'd do Budapest -> Vienna -> Prague (even though I'm no fan of Prague). Cheap to get about on the trains/bus, and the new ones are pretty good and often have cute girls too*

Have a blast whatever you choose man...good luck!



*Not included in ticket price

Thanks man. I think I'll forget about Germany. I was going to book my flight last night to return from Germany but I was going to get raped on the return flight back from Germany so I didn't go ahead with it. I guess I'm stick with one eastern European country. I'll see which one of the countries is the cheapest to return from and base my decision on that. Although I have noticed a recent surge of guys complaining on the forum about the huge influx of foreigners ruining things for everyone in Poland. I'm going to fly out on June 18 to Paris and then fly out around June 25 to the second country. I guess I'll be hit with the surplus of tourists in Poland. Maybe Budapest or Vienna would be a better bet then.

[Wuking]

Go to Kiev, Ukraine. Spoofed my Tinder location to Kiev and I was matching 8 out 10 girls. All these girls look like models.

[Fortis]

I'm so sick of these threads. Budha is a high value dude. He's an ivy league guy, tall, decent looking and probably has some other things going for him. I doubt his Asian heritage is what is doing the job.

[rudebwoy]

Ukraine.
Hungary.

[thunder_god]

(06-08-2015 06:32 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I'm so sick of these threads. Budha is a high value dude. He's an ivy league guy, tall, decent looking and probably has some other things going for him. I doubt his Asian heritage is what is doing the job.

Then get out of the thread then!

[Fortis]

The point I'm making is that your race isn't what is going pull women for you. Sure, you might intrigue some women, but you still have to put in the ground work that Budha did. the sad truth is that there aren't many western countries where being asian is going to help. Women will be neutral at best. No offense, but how many male asian porn stars can you name who are popular with western women? asian men don't appear to be as fetishised by western women as white, black and Latin men.

Instead of worrying about which country will like you make yourself into a guy who is likeable and sexy.

[thunder_god]

(06-08-2015 09:00 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

The point I'm making is that your race isn't what is going pull women for you. Sure, you might intrigue some women, but you still have to put in the ground work that Budha did. the sad truth is that there aren't many western countries where being asian is going to help. Women will be neutral at best. No offense, but how many male asian porn stars can you name who are popular with western women? asian men don't appear to be as fetishised by western women as white, black and Latin men.

Instead of worrying about which country will like you make yourself into a guy who is likeable and sexy.

I'm not expecting panties to come flying off when women see me out in the streets, but it would be nice to go somewhere where you don't suffer from the bullshit negative stereotypes portrayed by the American mass media. I'm just going to keep on working on and improving my game and lifestyle because thats all I can do, its the cards I've been dealt with.

[Mujeriego]

Fortis is on the money about turning yourself into a guy that appeals to women. If you can't get play at home don't expect it abroad especially with the introduction of a language barrier. This is what I was hinting at when I told you to take women out of consideration and travel to the cities you were most interested in.

[Kabal]

I'm surprised there aren't more "Asian guy" threads, considering how many "black guy" threads there are.

True, if you're Asian and struggle mightily in Western countries, you aren't going to be all of a sudden banging 8s and 9s in foreign countries.

However, the Asian exotic factor is real.

I do pretty well in the States, but I can bang 8s in foreign countries easier than I can bang 6s in the States. I forget who and what thread, but someone on this board once remarked going from a Western nation as an Asian to a foreign country is like intercepting a pass in the end-zone and running it back for a touchdown. A 14 point swing.

Many girls in the DR and Colombia that I pipelined have remarked that a large motivator for them coming to see me is because I'm Asiatic, especially Asian American, and it's a unique opportunity for them. Several have said (without me asking) that I was the first/only foreigner they came out to meet for this reason. Chicks that I pulled from nightclubs have remarked something similar--that they would never/have never abscond/absconded with gringos/estranjeros, but I caught them off guard.

Regardless of race, you need to have a your shit together and/or be handsome. However, the Asian exotic factor is a huge bonanza--especially in comparison to Western nations.

[Fortis]

Hmm. Not sure why I posted such a rude string of comments. My bad guys.

[robhay]

I'm a big fan of eastern Europe especially Ukraine. ..western Europe sucks..and the women less attractive so why even bother. South America especially Colombia is amazing..

[thunder_god]

Look I don't understand what all this hate is about. I simply asked a question which one of these European countries has Asian guys had the most success in. Suddenly the whole thread turns into people telling me I should just stay in my own country and work on myself or better yet the two douchebags VolandoVengoVolandoVoy and germanico trolling my thread. I haven't really travelled much outside of Toronto, but the few times I have or when I meet girls who aren't from Toronto, I tend to see a big increase in attraction and success with women which leads me to believe that living in this piece of shit city makes a huge difference when it comes to dating. My close friend also experienced this same issue as several threads posted on this forum have suggested.

Anyways folks I just booked my roundtrip to Paris, and Krakow Poland is going to be the most likely second European city I will visit due to price of tickets and ease of flight schedule. What areas in the city do you guys recommend I book accommodations through airbnb? Ideally I would want somewhere safe but close to the major attractions and nightlife to make logistics easier.

[thunder_god]

(06-09-2015 01:31 AM)robhay Wrote:  

I'm a big fan of eastern Europe especially Ukraine. ..western Europe sucks..and the women less attractive so why even bother. South America especially Colombia is amazing..

Isn't it very dangerous in Columbia? I saw some sweet travel deals for Colombia and several South American countries but I decided I wanted to go see Europe first. I'm more attracted to white chicks anyways.