[speeddemon]

Has anyone gone from zero success in the US until your mid-20s to doing decently well in SEA in one month's time?

I am considering doing this right now to develop some sort of an abundance mentality.

Thanks in advance for all the responses.

Edit: Don't want to turn this into a race thread, but I'm not white.

[Jetlagged]

I do very well in sea and did really shitty in USA.

Now that I have a modicum of game I do much better in sea and have good confidence. Hoping to transfer it back to USA but I can tell the confidence may transfer but sea game is easy mode compared to USA game and the two don't mix. Sea and almost Asia in general you have an exotic factor that can't be reproduced im USA if you're black/white/Hispanic or sole other normal American race.

In short it will make you feel good youll have fun and boost your confidence but your game will have to run slightly differently for sea and you will get way more interest.

[RagnarLothbrok]

Check out my thread. Same name as your thread:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-45719.html

I would definitely recommend any newbie to do it. Yes, game is a lot easier in SEA and it doesn't automatically mean you will be doing well back in the states after you fucked 20 girls in the philippines. But, you will make a lot more positive experiences in Asia in a shorter period of time and with a lot less blowouts. You will get used to women and you can learn the basics of game in a very comfortable way. Even if you just rely on Online Game you will still need to learn how to pull her back to your room and how to escalate. Plus, you will develop a lot of confidence which can be useful when you are back in the states.

[Jetlagged]

I shouldn't say very well as I've yet to get a notch in sea but loads of interest.

It's definitely a good place to practice game.

[speeddemon]

(05-31-2015 11:56 AM)Dipar Wrote:  

Check out my thread. Same name as your thread:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-45719.html

I would definitely recommend any newbie to do it. Yes, game is a lot easier in SEA and it doesn't automatically mean you will be doing well back in the states after you fucked 20 girls in the philippines. But, you will make a lot more positive experiences in Asia in a shorter period of time and with a lot less blowouts. You will get used to women and you can learn the basics of game in a very comfortable way. Even if you just rely on Online Game you will still need to learn how to pull her back to your room and how to escalate. Plus, you will develop a lot of confidence which can be useful when you are back in the states.

Awesome thread bro! I guess I should stay in PI due to English reasons.

[speeddemon]

(05-31-2015 10:45 AM)Jetlagged Wrote:  

I do very well in sea and did really shitty in USA.

Now that I have a modicum of game I do much better in sea and have good confidence. Hoping to transfer it back to USA but I can tell the confidence may transfer but sea game is easy mode compared to USA game and the two don't mix. Sea and almost Asia in general you have an exotic factor that can't be reproduced im USA if you're black/white/Hispanic or sole other normal American race.

In short it will make you feel good youll have fun and boost your confidence but your game will have to run slightly differently for sea and you will get way more interest.

Yeah I feel the confidence boost would be worth it since I'm starting the game a bit late.

[storm]

There is some danger in starting in SEA.

Part of game is identifying if a girl is trying to scam you and something is off. If you roll into a place like SEA without that instinct you could end up in your socks in a suburb of bangkok.

Try the 100 approach routine at home (roosh once posted on that, I think it's his originally). Get some basic experience under your belt even if it is all failures.

[Saladin]

I think the best way is to start in the US, and then go to SEA after a few months of hitting it hard here.

That'll give you some basic social experience here in the West, get you used to approaching, and get you used to blowouts. Basically, develop some basic level of game. This also helps you avoid getting scammed since you'll have stronger emotional intelligence.

Then go to SEA and bang some easy girls to up your confidence.

The thing is you want to have experienced the grind before going to SEA and getting easy lays. That way when you go back you have realistic expectations and can keep improving.

You don't just want to the guy who can only get laid in SEA. You want to have versatile game so even if you have to live in a game-unfriendly location for any reason(whether it be a lucrative contract or your current situation), you can still have sex with girls that are acceptably attractive.

[Dalaran1991]

Gaming in SEA is easier due partly to the exotic and white god factor.

Im doing pretty well here in France with cute French girls but when I visit home in Vietnam I dont get that much action to be honest, and my objective status at home is way higher than it is in Paris for obvious reasons.

Plus due to the conversion rate you also have much more spending power in SEA. Basically you live a radically different lifestyle with people who pre-approve you.

I think this is a great way for some guys to get some action because some guys simply need to get laid to fix a lot of their problems. However unless you plan on staying long term I see a problem brewing when you come back to USA. You wont be cruising through pussies anymore.

[Jetlagged]

I'm actually kind of worried to go back to USA after Asia. US holds a stigma for me that allows me to fall back to my old routines. I guess we will see.

[Il Bersagliere]

I'm also panning on rolling into SEA and maybe Europe fairly soon. A summer trip and a holiday trip meant for gaming and overall fun. Just from scouting the online pipeline, I can tell that things are going to be drastically different.

Of course, there are multiple reasons I do not do well at home. I don't approach. I hardly go out. Hardly gym. Wardrobe is average. I have alright logistics close to a college campus, but in the context of a nightlife venue, my location is the kiss of death. I have no car, but thank God for Uber and services like that. Obviously, I am working on all of these issues (incl. doing the Roosh Program), but move me to a a central location with all the nightlife and shops and ultra cheap cost of living, where the pipeline is flowing with milk and honey, and you are bound to see differences in my game and approach.

Despite these issues, I have still had opportunities to bang. For some reason, I was being oblivious to all of them. The most recent one was an old friend coming to hang out with me. We started talking and decided to order pizza and chill in her dorm room. Her roomie was gone, so we watched a few pornflicks....yep. Around like 3am ish, we said good night. She claimed to have a bf, but ffs I could have still done something.

Regarding the exotic/white factor, I kind of get that here (everywhere, really), but I still need to find a way to capitalize on that. I may write a datasheet in the future because sometimes it does more harm than good. So I am still figuring out how to optimize that. I've taken the RP and honestly, I cannot look back. The experience has colored my perspective about the true nature of the dating/relationship market and how I perceive the rest of world.

I'm glad I found the community because honestly I have been spinning my wheels for a while. Getting bad advice from other people. Getting faux sympathy. But I don't need all of that. There was a time I thought of doing MGTOW, but I look back and lol hard. It's counterproductive to isolate myself and doesn't get me the results I want. I just need to focus and improve my body/lifestyle/game to get where I want to be.

MaybeI should just move after graduation...find a nice metro area.

[speeddemon]

I am well set in the US financially, so I will eventually have to learn to game in the states. I am not even sure if it makes sense to go now. The main reason would be to smash easy girls, but I dont think it would be that easy without either being white or having game lol

[Il Bersagliere]

(06-05-2015 02:18 AM)speeddemon Wrote:  

I am well set in the US financially, so I will eventually have to learn to game in the states. I am not even sure if it makes sense to go now. The main reason would be to smash easy girls, but I dont think it would be that easy without either being white or having game lol

Put up some pictures on DIA (DateInAsia) or OKC or WeChat and lightly pipeline to see how the girls are receptive to you. Open them as if you were already in the country. Set the location for the Philippines or Thailand or Indonesia. It will give you an idea of where you should visit. I suspect you'll get bites in all places. Also, your results will obviously be better in the States, so there's that. Depending on where you end up, there will obviously be nightlife venues and daygame spots that are typically centrally located for you to stretch your game muscles if needed. Look up datasheets to see how people are doing and where they are going. With the amount of info at your disposal, you should be alright.

Yeah, the "white" thing gets a lot of play here, which is why I have to go and see what's up, but honestly I wanna get my dick wet and maybe take some off time. Interestingly enough, I was talking to a pipelined prospect I plan to visit in the city I chose and she told me about how all Western guys want sex. A German guy met up with her and tried kissing her and she resisted because "it was too soon" and because he wouldn't stop saying they're friends. I loled at that because I believe it was a case of bad game. So, keep that in mind. Have some game and some style and a nice long roster of girls to practice game on and meet. Also, don't sex chat bc that'll scare them away. Also, no ladyboys!

Tell us what you find out.

[RagnarLothbrok]

(06-05-2015 07:39 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

(06-05-2015 02:18 AM)speeddemon Wrote:  

I am well set in the US financially, so I will eventually have to learn to game in the states. I am not even sure if it makes sense to go now. The main reason would be to smash easy girls, but I dont think it would be that easy without either being white or having game lol

Put up some pictures on DIA (DateInAsia) or OKC or WeChat and lightly pipeline to see how the girls are receptive to you. Open them as if you were already in the country. Set the location for the Philippines or Thailand or Indonesia. It will give you an idea of where you should visit. I suspect you'll get bites in all places. Also, your results will obviously be better in the States, so there's that. Depending on where you end up, there will obviously be nightlife venues and daygame spots that are typically centrally located for you to stretch your game muscles if needed. Look up datasheets to see how people are doing and where they are going. With the amount of info at your disposal, you should be alright.

Yeah, the "white" thing gets a lot of play here, which is why I have to go and see what's up, but honestly I wanna get my dick wet and maybe take some off time. Interestingly enough, I was talking to a pipelined prospect I plan to visit in the city I chose and she told me about how all Western guys want sex. A German guy met up with her and tried kissing her and she resisted because "it was too soon" and because he wouldn't stop saying they're friends. I loled at that because I believe it was a case of bad game. So, keep that in mind. Have some game and some style and a nice long roster of girls to practice game on and meet. Also, don't sex chat bc that'll scare them away. Also, no ladyboys!

Tell us what you find out.

Forget about DIA, WeChat and OKC. Tinder is where it's at in Southeast Asia.

And regarding the sex chat: Most girls in SEA don't like it, that's true. But you can get a feeling for what type of girl you are texting with relatively easy. And once you get nudes and sexual interest from them, it is a sealed deal even if you are actually going there weeks or months later. Once they made the investment of sending nudes, they will be patient enough to fuck you. In my opinion, getting nudes is the only way to go if you pipeline a long time in advance.

I couldn't help myself and already started pipelining for my next trip in a month. After a week of pipelining I have 4 prospects in Bangkok who have sent me nudes and are waiting for me to finally come and bang them. And another 10 who said they are wiling to meet up after "I come back from my current business trip to Jakarta".

[Il Bersagliere]

(06-05-2015 01:46 PM)Dipar Wrote:  

(06-05-2015 07:39 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

(06-05-2015 02:18 AM)speeddemon Wrote:  

I am well set in the US financially, so I will eventually have to learn to game in the states. I am not even sure if it makes sense to go now. The main reason would be to smash easy girls, but I dont think it would be that easy without either being white or having game lol

Put up some pictures on DIA (DateInAsia) or OKC or WeChat and lightly pipeline to see how the girls are receptive to you. Open them as if you were already in the country. Set the location for the Philippines or Thailand or Indonesia. It will give you an idea of where you should visit. I suspect you'll get bites in all places. Also, your results will obviously be better in the States, so there's that. Depending on where you end up, there will obviously be nightlife venues and daygame spots that are typically centrally located for you to stretch your game muscles if needed. Look up datasheets to see how people are doing and where they are going. With the amount of info at your disposal, you should be alright.

Yeah, the "white" thing gets a lot of play here, which is why I have to go and see what's up, but honestly I wanna get my dick wet and maybe take some off time. Interestingly enough, I was talking to a pipelined prospect I plan to visit in the city I chose and she told me about how all Western guys want sex. A German guy met up with her and tried kissing her and she resisted because "it was too soon" and because he wouldn't stop saying they're friends. I loled at that because I believe it was a case of bad game. So, keep that in mind. Have some game and some style and a nice long roster of girls to practice game on and meet. Also, don't sex chat bc that'll scare them away. Also, no ladyboys!

Tell us what you find out.

Forget about DIA, WeChat and OKC. Tinder is where it's at in Southeast Asia.

And regarding the sex chat: Most girls in SEA don't like it, that's true. But you can get a feeling for what type of girl you are texting with relatively easy. And once you get nudes and sexual interest from them, it is a sealed deal even if you are actually going there weeks or months later. Once they made the investment of sending nudes, they will be patient enough to fuck you. In my opinion, getting nudes is the only way to go if you pipeline a long time in advance.

I couldn't help myself and already started pipelining for my next trip in a month. After a week of pipelining I have 4 prospects in Bangkok who have sent me nudes and are waiting for me to finally come and bang them. And another 10 who said they are wiling to meet up after "I come back from my current business trip to Jakarta".

Your post is seriously making me reconsider BKK as a potential hunting grounds. I have lined up a few prospects in Saigon, with some interesting stories, but I'll probably post those later. A lot of them are marriage minded, but you know...

I feel like BKK is more sexually liberated than Saigon, so you are more likely to get nudes. Most of my prospects claim that they love/hate guys from the West bc they love sex blah and one told me if we meet, she would not give it up easily. Also, I have only tried Tinder in JKT, but it was great!

[WestIndianArchie]

1 month of banging chicks in SEA will
- boost your confidence
- slake your thirst for sex
- teach you how to deal with chicks that want you more than you want them
- teach you about flakiness

Those can be the building blocks of good game for Western Chicks that have everything - because you're dealing with the essential nature of women - conscious and unconscious manipulation.

But what typically happens is that guys develop yellow fever. And even Asians in the West can't compare to what they had access to in the Mother Land (so to speak)

If you're a young man, and you find essentially a pussy paradise with a low cost of living - what could possibly pull you away?

WIA

[Jetlagged]

(06-05-2015 05:22 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

1 month of banging chicks in SEA will
- boost your confidence
- slake your thirst for sex
- teach you how to deal with chicks that want you more than you want them
- teach you about flakiness

Those can be the building blocks of good game for Western Chicks that have everything - because you're dealing with the essential nature of women - conscious and unconscious manipulation.

But what typically happens is that guys develop yellow fever. And even Asians in the West can't compare to what they had access to in the Mother Land (so to speak)

If you're a young man, and you find essentially a pussy paradise with a low cost of living - what could possibly pull you away?

WIA

All very, very true. You'll also deal with a lot
Hookers, gain a lot of cultural experience, and be able to bang a few points higher than normal. If you're a tall, somewhat handsome well built dude in Asia you can fuck well above your normal range pretty easily.

It is very addicting

[RagnarLothbrok]

In the end it is all about reference experiences which usually are of higher quality and quantity in SEA. At least for beginners. I believe that you can develop your game a lot faster abroad. Banging 10 easy Asian girls improves your game more than banging one tough western girl.

[CaptainCrazy]

Just make sure you use at least some game.

Don't be that guy.

   

[Il Bersagliere]

(06-05-2015 07:39 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

(06-05-2015 02:18 AM)speeddemon Wrote:  

I am well set in the US financially, so I will eventually have to learn to game in the states. I am not even sure if it makes sense to go now. The main reason would be to smash easy girls, but I dont think it would be that easy without either being white or having game lol

Put up some pictures on DIA (DateInAsia) or OKC or WeChat and lightly pipeline to see how the girls are receptive to you. Open them as if you were already in the country. Set the location for the Philippines or Thailand or Indonesia. It will give you an idea of where you should visit. I suspect you'll get bites in all places. Also, your results will obviously be better in the States, so there's that. Depending on where you end up, there will obviously be nightlife venues and daygame spots that are typically centrally located for you to stretch your game muscles if needed. Look up datasheets to see how people are doing and where they are going. With the amount of info at your disposal, you should be alright.

Yeah, the "white" thing gets a lot of play here, which is why I have to go and see what's up, but honestly I wanna get my dick wet and maybe take some off time. Interestingly enough, I was talking to a pipelined prospect I plan to visit in the city I chose and she told me about how all Western guys want sex. A German guy met up with her and tried kissing her and she resisted because "it was too soon" and because he wouldn't stop saying they're friends. I loled at that because I believe it was a case of bad game. So, keep that in mind. Have some game and some style and a nice long roster of girls to practice game on and meet. Also, don't sex chat bc that'll scare them away. Also, no ladyboys!

Tell us what you find out.

I made a mistake. Your pipelining results outside of the country will be better than what you get at home (i.e. US). Much much better.