[Phoenix]

(12-31-2016 02:09 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

What I'm saying is the defense here of constant clowning and gaming of mediocre sluts just because you need the notch is no better than dudes who see whores. Neither are going to bring a whole ton of value to your life other than a momentary good time (which is fine too as long as its not a whole lifestyle). Sluts and whores are two sides of the same coin, one you pay with money, the other you pay with time (and money too if you're out drinking, eating etc).

I don't think you really believe that banging a slut and a whore are the same thing. The slut at least gives you validation of your sexual worth. She's going to fuck someone that night, but she's not going to fuck anyone. The whore only needs to see the dollar bills and isn't even going to enjoy it with you.

It's just nonsense, dude. You can't possibly sell that these two sentences ring the same to more than 1% of men:
- I pulled a chick from a club and banged her. Total cost, factoring in my time: $100.
- I banged a whore. Total cost, factoring in my time: $100.

If anything note the difference the direction of price makes. The lower the price, the more impressive the former and the more disgusting the latter

(12-31-2016 02:09 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

I stand by my assertion that dudes who become high notch slut mongers have difficulty being in normal relationships. I've seen it with some of my good friends who've gone this route.

Maybe, but what is the causal direction? Perhaps they were the type of guy who doesn't want or get satisfied by a normal relationship, and as a result had many bangs instead. Perhaps the guys who want normal relationships wouldn't feel good about banging sluts, which is why they don't. They feel satisfied with their one woman, and don't have much desire for sexual variety. Or maybe they just end up with her because they can't do any better and it's better than being alone.

Of course we do have the very namesake of this forum, who did bang chasing when he was younger, and now says he's in a 1 year plus exclusive LTR. I'd say that's actually much more common than the guy who get's a taste of the notch-accumulating lifestyle and is forever broken. What actually tends to happen is the opposite, due to the marginal value of the next notch steadily goes down, demotivating the notch-hound and encouraging him to seek something more meaningful.

(01-08-2017 01:01 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

I said sluts tend to be 6s, not that 6s tend to be sluts. Do you really not understand the difference?

Either is wrong though (unless you're merely pointing out the obvious that there are more 6s than 10s). As Trump said, when he was hanging out in Studio54, he saw the most beautiful people in the world, top models etc, getting bent over tables. But the guys bending them over were simply of same or higher rank. Super plain and super hot women will have roughly the same percentage of sluts among them, difference is that DiCaprio & Co isn't going to waste time on the plain ones.

[questor70]

Woody Allen has this to say on the topic:

'Sex without love is a meaningless experience, but as far as meaningless experiences go its pretty damn good.'

If you're going to have sex without love, the least you can hope for is that it's mutually enjoyable. When you pay a prostitute, it's frustrating because if she doesn't get off then it feels phoney, and if she does, then it feels like you shouldn't have had to pay for it in the first place, because then it's not really "work".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6fFtWi318s

The only advantage in a prostitute is that it insures no-strings-attached, but hookup culture is largely taking care of that anyway. This is why I think women are deluding themselves if they think hookup culture is some sort of forward stride for feminism.

[dallasguy]

First of all, if its just a ONS then I don't give a shit if some skank orgasms or not. I sure as hell ain't eating that cum receptacle. Second, hookup culture doesn't guarantee a bang on demand plus it takes time. It's not like you can walk in a bar or club and walk out with a chick 5 minutes later headed back to your place to fuck her. Nobody wants to p4p. I normally get enough "free" pussy. Sometimes a guy just wants to bust a nut without having to go thru bullshit or wasting time. My career is far more important than chasing chopped beef. They say time is money and my billing rate is $200/hr. If I spend 5 hours to bag a slut, was her poon worth $1000? Sometimes I have a few hours to burn and feel like playing the game. That's the advantage of being a man. We have 30 years or more of playing the field. A skank hits the wall at 30 or even earlier if they drink and party too much. I've seen women age 30 that look like they're 45. RIP

[Phoenix]

(01-11-2017 12:21 AM)dallasguy Wrote:  

It's not like you can walk in a bar or club and walk out with a chick 5 minutes later headed back to your place to fuck her.

I think with American-level sluts you can, just not reliably. You've got to be shiny to them in some way though.

There have been some great threads on bodybuilding.com early on when tinder/pof came into existence. A good looking dude there was just literally messaging 'hey, want to have sex?'. And a bunch of chicks were just saying 'wow you are so cute, yeah OK' (he posted the screenshots with faces painted out). Some were even qualifying it. One said 'lol ok sure but I'm allergic to condoms so just don't cum inside'. In the 2nd message of the chat log before they even met. How the 1% live huh.

Then there are GLL's videos and articles, which are amazing. Ones where he's approaching girls in the club and just putting his hands on their upper chest immediately to screen them. If they're positive he just pushes it towards a pull immediately. He does daygame pulls straight to his car after about 10 minutes. He even has one video where he approaches a girl in a mall and pulls her to a bathroom stall in the mall within about 10 minutes (but she doesn't go through with it though, guess just not at that sluttyness level yet ). Then he has the articles where he messaged girls on POF, deliberately targeting the time when they're most likely to be thinking of getting laid (i.e. late evening on some days). Those message logs basically go 'get cutey, want to hang out?'; 'yeah I'd like that Chris'; 'ok can you take a call? what's your number'; '####'.

But you're right about the time and money. Unless you're in the 1% and it's that easy, you're probably better off raking cash if that's your rate, and then buying a ticket to south america.

[Kid Twist]

(01-11-2017 12:21 AM)dallasguy Wrote:  

My career is far more important than chasing chopped beef.

Lol, I can understand this sentiment, mainly because if you aren't serious about any of these sluts, there is an increasingly silly (non meaningful) difference between them. There is an accomplishment point, no doubt, but isn't that just as random often (hormones or impulsive slut behaviour) as long as you're not a total loser who is ugly?[/quote]


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^Phoenix, do you think the early days of apps/online was that people weren't that aware of it and it was exciting for girls, so that's why they were so much easier? Or was there a higher percentage of hotter women (and men) because of the number effect? I remember feeling how soft porn it was when I chatted to a girl on "tinder" for the first time, thinking of how to indirectly sexualize if they didn't bring something up

[questor70]

This is getting increasingly OT, but to me, the craziest thing about Tinder style apps is how it takes a lot of the bar scene dynamic and crams it into a little device that you carry around on your person 24/7.

I have had piss-poor results on Tinder, but one time I had a real-time chat with someone on a Saturday night. Because it was Saturday night, Tinder acts like a substitute for the bar scene, where you don't have to get dressed up or buy drinks. You just casually lie in bed and watch TV and swipe until you get a match and then you enter your real-time chat.

It's that incredible convenience that has changed the landscape.

The downside of this is you'll have people who are on Tinder out of sheer laziness or boredom. Since you're not spending any time, money, or effort, there's no reason not to be on Tinder if you don't have a date on a Friday or Saturday night. That, I think, is why so many Tinder interactions just become one-time chats that lead nowhere. It might as well be an old school chat-room like IRC at that point.

[dallasguy]

These apps just feel awkward to me plus I hate any social media with a passion. I need to see people in person and talk to them. That's half the fun of game, is the chase. Got a cute Indian girl in the same office building that I can probably pull, but don't know if I want to shit where I eat. I normally don't go after Indians but this one has a tight little body and cute face.

[torid]

Amy schumer must be the definition of the title of this thread:

[Phoenix]

^FFS man that's fucking horrible. Eye bleach. Now.

[torid]

No more worries, Eye bleach is here:

[Rawmeo]

The highest number I've heard from a girl is 20, which means 40 if we follow the x2 rule. She had sex with 20 men, but...
- She fucked the whole football team, but it doesn't count because she was drunk.
- She got ass-fucked behind a dumpster, but it doesn't count because it was from behind.
- Etc. etc.

As a general rule, I usually don't ask, because I will get a BS answer, and it'll just disgust me for nothing.

[WalterBlack]

Here's the pornstar Asa Akira listing how many people she has had sex with.

How Many People Have I Had Sex With? A Not-So-Brief Analysis

Quote:

People always ask me how many people I’ve slept with in my lifetime. Like most women, I generally lie and give whatever number I think my suitor wants to hear – but when it came up on the last episode of KFCRADIO, I realized I legitimately didn’t have a real answer. Often, I joke “I know I’m a slut because my body count is a rough estimate,” but I’ll admit now that I don’t even have that – the number could be anywhere between 100 to 5,000 and I wouldn’t know. Not to slut shame myself or anything, but… I’m a little embarrassed. I mean, I should be able to ballpark a number like the amount of people I’ve had inside of me.

I decided to do the math once and for all. For the record, this list is comprised of men who have penetrated my vagina/asshole with their penis, and women who I’ve been to at least 3rd base with.

Age 13

• Lost my virginity to a boy from my cousin’s school: 1
• Fucked a boy in my grade and told him he was my first: 2
• New Years eve, told another guy he was my first: 3
  

Age 14

• A really hot senior: 4
• Another kid in my grade: 5
• Brief boyfriend, his dad was a cop: 6
• His best friend: 7
• Gross raver kid that I met at The Cube on St Marks Place (RIP), his house always smelled like Chinese food but he wasn’t Chinese: 8
• Kid who had fucked Scarlett Johansen, he’s semi-famous now (wasn’t back then), we did Ketamine all weekend and I got my period all over his sheets: 9
• Puerto Rican kid from summer school: 10
• British guy who I dated for a month, pretty sure in hindsight that he was a pedophile: 11
• First two girls I ever fingered and went down on, in the bathroom stall of a movie theater (it was a movie premiere, NSync was there): 12&13
• Kid I fucked on a roof and then refused to give my number to, but then later in life ran into and dated for a year: 14
  

Ages 15 – 18

• First Love: 15
• In a (monogamous) relationship, so I was somewhat out of commission for a few years here, but I went to Japan to visit my grandma and did Speed all night with a childhood friend and we 69’d for hours before having sex for less than one minute: 16
• Guy from my job at Barnes & Noble, another possible pedophile: 17
• Very Rare! An NYC Scientologist: 18
  

Ages 19 – 20

• Kid who had the same birthday as me, I thought this was a sign we were meant to be: 19
• Gross loser that I always knew was a loser but he caught me at the right moment on the right amount of Ecstasy: 20
• Bartender I had a crush on since I was 15: 21
• First husband: 22
• We did a LOT of drugs and fucked a LOT of people together. I’m just gonna say: 23 – 50
• His friend: 51
• My richest friend, very quietly as his girlfriend slept in the same room: 52
  

Age 21

• Dominican guy from Roosevelt Island: 53
• Radio guy: 54
• Couple I lived with in Florida: 55 & 56
• Girl I met at Bike Week in Myrtle Beach: 57
• Guy I met at Bike Week in Myrtle Beach: 58
• Fat promoter: 59
• Weed dealer: 60
• 2 Childhood friends, my first time with two dudes, we had sex for -no joke- 9 hours, obviously on drugs: 61 & 62
• Guy I went home from strip club with and then he became my boyfriend but ultimately he left me for another stripper from the same stripclub: 63
• Very rich old dude: 64
• Loser who still texts me every single holiday including Columbus Day: 65
  

Age 22

• Last boyfriend I had before entering porn, on methadone now: 66
• Gina Lynn, my first porn scene ever in Top Notch Bitches 4 (or was it 7?): 67
• Her Husband, in my first boy/girl sex scene ever: 68
  

Ages 23 – 32

*** This is where I moved out to LA to pursue doing porn as a real career. The math becomes much, much more complicated here.

Porn Year 1:

• Exclusively contracted to one company for first six months, in which time period I did six movies. Worked with 7 male performers: 69 – 76
• During that contract, had a fuckbuddy situation with a director: 77
• Once released from contract, worked on average 5x a week. Probably 2x a week w/ a male performer, 1x a week w/ a female performer, 1x a week alone (for masturbation scenes,) and 1x a week something else that didn’t involve full on sex, like a photoshoot or a signing event etc. In porn, we only have about 100 male performers (only about 10 of them being A-List, 20 total whom i work with on a regular basis,) so I will insert that 100 here, although to be accurate I probably didn’t work with a lot of them until later in my career. So for the female performers, 1(per week) x 6months = 24. 100(total of male performers from earlier) + 24 = 124: 201
• I probably fucked a director or two in the bathroom of a porn set that year: 203
  

Porn Year 2:

• Worked consistently 5x a week the entire year. Took no vacations nor boyfriends. Again, around 1 lesbian scene per week, and we’ve already counted the 100 total guys in the business. 1(per week)x 52 = 52: 255
• Fuckbuddy, a Korean artist, probably the most famous person I’ve ever had sex with (he’s not that famous either): 256
• Probably fucked a director or two in the bathroom: 258
  

Porn Year 3:

• Worked 5x a week again, but took a few week-long vacations here and there. Let’s say this year I fucked 40 new female performers: 298
• Got a boyfriend for a few months whose ass i fucked regularly with a strap on and I swore to everyone he was straight but then he ended up doing gay porn after we broke up. Still not sure if he’s gay though: 299
• Tried escorting for the first time: 300
• Tried escorting a second time, big fail – thought it would be my Pretty Woman moment and he’d be my Captian Save a Ho but it didn’t work out that way and I decided escorting was not my thing: 301
• Probably fucked a director or two in the bathroom: 302
  

Porn Year 4:

• Worked 5x a week consistently, took a couple vacations, let’s say 45 new female performers this year: 347
• Probably fucked a director or two in the bathroom: 349
  

Porn Year 5:

• Worked 5x a week consistently, took more vacations than ever before, probably only around 30 new female performers: 379
• Got married again, but he’s already included in the 100 male performer total: 379
• Fucked no directors in the bathroom (honest): 379
  

Porn Year 6:

• Started directing, so only performed in my own scenes about 2x a week. Not even 1/2 of those were lesbian scenes, so probably only had sex with 2 new women a month. 2 x 12 = 24: 403
  

Porn Years 7 – 9:

• Signed exclusive contract with Wicked Pictures, shooting 1 movie a month, so probably only 5 new women per year: 418
  

GRAND TOTAL: 418

I’m remembering now that I also claimed I’d never had a one night stand – and after careful review, I retract that statement. I never saw the New Years Eve guy from when I was 13 after that one night. To be honest, 418 seems a little underwhelming. But I’ve definitely, DEFINITELY left out a bunch of people that just aren’t popping into my head right now – so if I had sex with you, kindly leave your name/location/approximate year and I will add you to the list.

She's Japanese-American. I don't think she's hot enough to become a major porn star in Japan. Asian-American porn actresses are nowhere near as hot as the ones in Japan:

[John Michael Kane]

Her body is fit, but her face is masculine. The average Japanese porn girl is far more feminine.

[questor70]

The problem with asian porn isn't the beauty of the women (although I'd prefer they shave more). It's how unsexy asian porn is. The women behave like they're getting a tooth extracted and it's hard to blame them with such piss poor technique from the men.

[torid]

considering how ugly is the wife of Mark Cuckerberg, and how cucked Mark is,
Priscilla Chan is also a good contenter to the title:

[dallasguy]

You're confusing Japanese porn with Asian Americans in western porn.

[Cr33pin]

I banged a girl in the Philippines that that told me after we had sex that I was the 83rd guy she had been with that year. All foreigners from OKC and Filipinocupid.. I didn't know whether to be repulsed or jealous.

I tell the story on the podcast I did......

[xmlenigma]

^ And she's actually keeping count? .. Windex/ CDC that one! yikes..!

[Phoenix]

(01-20-2017 07:23 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

The women behave like they're getting a tooth extracted

Makes you wonder what the fuck is wrong with their men. The more she looks like she dislikes it, you more you get off?

Everyone should check out the Maria Ozawa (most famous Japanese porn star) filmography page, and ponder what in the living fuck is wrong with these people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Ozawa_filmography

A few select titles:
- Maria Ozawa Painful Orgasm Endless Shiofuki (悶絶アクメ無制限潮吹き 小澤マリア)
- Urine Bukkake on Beautiful Eurasian English Teacher Maria Ozawa Nakadashi Raped for 20 Consecutive Times! (小便ぶっかけ 美人ハーフ英語女教師小澤マリア20連発中出し！)
- Anal Slave Enema Spray! (アナル奴隷浣腸噴射！小澤マリア)
- Maria Ozawa - Female Ninja Rape Ninjutsu Notebook (くノ一凌辱忍法帳　碧眼のマリア 狂い堕ちた修羅姫)
- Fallen Urine-Drinking Pig Idol
- Shemale Orgy Gangbang Rape
- Monster Swallowing Ecstasy Maria Ozawa
- Restraint Chair Lesbian
- Torture With Sperm 2 / Gouman Samen 2
- Rape! Super High-Class Public Whore Maria Ozawa
- Nakadashi Rape 4 Hours!

[Phoenix]

(01-24-2017 09:25 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

I banged a girl in the Philippines that that told me after we had sex that I was the 83rd guy she had been with that year.

How far into the year?

[Vicious]

Quote:

Got a boyfriend for a few months whose ass i fucked regularly with a strap on and I swore to everyone he was straight but then he ended up doing gay porn after we broke up. Still not sure if he’s gay though

This made my day.

[Bushido]

Akira remembers the guys pretty well considering. Honestly I would have expected a higher number from a pornstar.

[Vill@in]

(01-11-2017 02:43 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

There have been some great threads on bodybuilding.com early on when tinder/pof came into existence. A good looking dude there was just literally messaging 'hey, want to have sex?'. And a bunch of chicks were just saying 'wow you are so cute, yeah OK' (he posted the screenshots with faces painted out). Some were even qualifying it. One said 'lol ok sure but I'm allergic to condoms so just don't cum inside'. In the 2nd message of the chat log before they even met. How the 1% live huh.

Not sure if this was what you were talking about, but here is an example of that 1% and how girls are total sluts for them with no effort on their end.

http://www.tinderseduction.com/male-mode...ase-study/

[Cr33pin]

(01-25-2017 06:00 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(01-24-2017 09:25 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

I banged a girl in the Philippines that that told me after we had sex that I was the 83rd guy she had been with that year.

How far into the year?

It was in early December.... I asked her if she was going for 100 for the year, she said no.

[El Padrone]

What a thread!

I saw a girls talk pamphlet recently where the broads were asked to pray that God should ''close them up'' if they've been ''opened''. Lol. :-) :-)