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Help w/ a scenario
#1

Help w/ a scenario

Hi guys,

I am in a confusing situation. During the week of christmas I went with my family and another family (2 of them my buddies) on a caribbean cruise. I met this girl one night and thought she was real cute, and has a cute sister as well. It turned out she is from Canada, I am from florida. Anyway one of the last few nights we ended up hanging out me, her, her sister, and my friend. We were up til like 6am talking shit drinking and whatnot but I played it a bit slow as she was obviously not going to ditch her sister to hang with me. Regardless game was tight, plenty of cocky-funny. The last night of the cruise I ran into her again at the casino and flirted with her a bit, asked her to come get a drink and as a half-joke made her pay for herself, which got her angry and she huffed and puffed away. I went over like an hour later and acted like nothing happened, long story short I grabbed us new drinks and she was all excited telling me i am so mysterious blah blah. Brought her back to my room and we ended up rolling around til like 7am on the balcony. I got some resistance so tried the 1 step back 2 steps forward until we had most clothes off but she wouldnt go past, which is understandable as my brother was in the room and we were just outside.

Sorry for so such a long story. Anyway I told her we'd talk and it just so happens she has a trip planned to my city for valentines day weekend, so i see a serious possibility to revive and escalate. plus she is very cute and pretty cool, so i wouldnt mind seeing her again. The next day i friended her on fbook, and the day after sent her a message asking for her blackberry pin (mistake, i think i shouldve asked for phone number, but im treading in strange territory w so much distance involved). I also jokingly asked about her sister, who is a year younger but arguably cuter (lets say 7.9 vs 8.1) but very boring to me. I mentioned the sister again at some point talking to her on texts and she got very defensive and angry. I sent her a fbook message the next day explaining it was a misunderstanding, i like her not her sister, i was just making a joke, etc (probably also a mistake). she sent me one message basically saying have a good life, take care. then 20 mins later sent another saying "you are actually a nice guy etc etc lets start over fresh as friends" (??? friends?) I interpreted that turn of events as a positive, but in trying to talk to her over hte next few days got a very cold reception (she didnt ignore me, but just kind of cold).

ANYWAY, i met her about 2 weeks ago, and havent spoken since new years. She was very infatuated with me at first and know it is possible to recapture, but ive put myself in a very weak position with apologies and the like, showing too much interest. What are my options here? I would ideally like to get together with her when she comes down in february, but dont want it to be under "friendly" terms.

Jesus that was long. sorry but I need detailed help. Thanks a lot for reading.
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#2

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Moral of the story - don't compare girls to girls. They will freak out and recoil in defense if they think you're using them to get to someone else. This also holds for if a girl thinks you are not capable of giving her ample attention in the future - thus the importance of a fine balance between disinterest, cocky, funny and attraction.

I would just tease her and tell her she has to sign up on the list because there are just so many people trying to hang out with you now, not sure if you have room for her. It sounds very stupid, but from my experience there is a very small probability of salvage after a blunder like this one.
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#3

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SOunds great.

The friends text part is just part of the stuff you roll with. DOn't pay attention. Just keep going.

Just have fun and enjoy yourself. You're a young guy and you've got some of your game together - nice. There are plenty of girls out there. Keep it light. You apologised - so what - you're vulnerable - you like her. Its OK, not some fatal mistake. Keep having fun with her. Diversify. And keep your balls and dick up front of your jeans, you'll let her know you're never going to be her friend. BY the what you say you will let her know this isn't " friends". You're going to laugh and joke, escalate with her, and if she ducks out or gets boring you're going leave for greener pastures.

If you have that mindset, she may very well came round.

"For the true meaning of victory ask the defeated warrior"
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#4

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You have to be very cool when maintaining relationships online. Message once every 5-7 days at most. It's best you keep it short as well... make her think you are losing interest.

Show no affection or get into detailed stories online. Drop short notes about what you're up to... rarely ask questions. In this case play along with her friends line by agreeing with her. Be very breezy about getting her in person. But when you do just resume where you left off.
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#5

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Update/new problem:

Thanks guys for the advice, it worked to perfection. After the blunder I kept my distance for a bit, then spoke to her just like Roosh said about once every 5-7 days on text message. She ended up coming to town to visit family and I took her out for valentine's day dinner this weekend and it went very well, but then I kind of messed it up at the end of the night.

Dinner was awesome, we really clicked and I had her wrapped around my finger. We went out after to clubs and such, met up with a bunch of my friends who helped me build huge value and some of her girl friends from canada happened to be in town as well and I took good care of them and hooked them up with some of my friends. We were out for a long time so there were a few brief miscues but I cleaned them all up quickly and prudently. I ended up getting her back to my house late at night but unfortunately I drank a bit too much and got a little aggressive; things were going awesome and I had her on cloud nine saying shit I didnt think I'd hear her say, then when it came time to fuck I was so drunk/exhausted/excited to finally bang this chick who a month ago I never thought I'd see again that I just layed into her and fucked her like an animal for 2 or 3 minutes until she was just like "this is too much you're attacking me" type of thing and cut it short. Not a good cap to the night. The next morning I woke up and she was gone, she left me a text that her mom (who she was in town with) had picked her up for breakfast and she had to drive like an hour to spend the day with her grandparents. I was leaving the next morning and god knows when I'll see her again so I wanted to clean up the mess and was going to drive up and see her for a few hours but she left her phone off (probably half she was busy and half to ignore me) until late when it was too late to go see her. Not sure if that would've been a good idea but I felt like she'd appreciate the effort to clean things up/properly say goodbye; or mightve come off as try-hard, I'm not sure. I never told her of that plan, but did send like 2 casual texts and 1 or 2 calls.

Anyway, I left town without seeing her again and am in the precarious position that I actually liked her and we made a very solid connection. I do have my fair share of interaction with girls both intimate and otherwise being in college and I can count maybe 1 or 2 girls I've ever met that I enjoy as much as this one. Problem is, I dont know where to go from here. I don't really want to leave it as a see each other once every 4 months type thing because I feel that'll be a waste and will get boring. I have no problem flying to see her but don't know how long I should wait to propose that idea, without coming off as too interested. I am also unsure as to whether I should keep things super light like before and only talk like once a week or start to give a bit of reward and talk to a little more often since she showed that the hook is obviously sunk by letting me fuck her the third time I ever saw her.

I feel like I'm starting to let emotions get the better of me and am creeping back into beta territory, and don't want to let it happen, but at the same time I do like the girl and would be a shame to let it fizzle out.

Sorry again for long post, but just including details so you can understand my situation. Thanks in advance for the advice.
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#6

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Forget her, she has your number after all. Find another chick in the meantime.
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