[StrikeBack]

Correction: 75% of British men could not get 1st date sex, and therefore turn this necessity into a virtue by declaring that they would turn it down anyway.

[Glaucon]

(04-09-2015 09:34 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Correction: 75% of British men could not get 1st date sex, and therefore turn this necessity into a virtue by declaring that they would turn it down anyway.

[spokepoker]

Jeez, 75% of my first bang of a girl are first 'dates'.

[Medic42]

[Praetor Lupus]

(04-08-2015 11:20 AM)Menace Wrote:  

What is "love?" Unfamiliar with that word. Is it French?

Love was invented by guys like Don Draper, to sell nylons.

And I often turn down first date sex myself. Girl's got to earn the right to get into bed with me.

[Remington]

(04-09-2015 01:52 PM)Medic42 Wrote:  

Am I a complete retard...but whats a "poofter."

[RexImperator]

Poofter = teh ghey

[TheFinalEpic]

The 80/20 rule holds true, the bottom 75% aren't fucking anyone anyway.

[EDantes]

(04-08-2015 11:09 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Three quarters of men would turn down first-date sex

The Jewish loser in DC thread sounds like the kind of guy this survey spoke to.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relations...e-sex.html

Quote:

Three quarters of men would turn down sex on a first date, according to a poll of more than 2,000 people.

And a quarter would not feel comfortable even kissing after their first meeting with a potential partner.

The poll found that 15 per cent of women would be happy to go to bed with a new partner after one date, while 72 per cent of them would be up for an end-of-evening snog.

The survey also suggested that men were more likely to be romantic than their female partners. 25 per cent of men said they would mention love within the first month of dating, compared to just 16 per cent of women.
Women were most likely to hold off telling their partner they loved them until the fourth month of dating.

And while three quarters of men said they would be comfortable saying “I love you” first, less than half of women would do the same.

Men are also ready to introduce a new partner to their parents and update their Facebook status to “in a relationship” earlier than women, according to the poll – doing both after an average of eight dates.

Richard Longhurst, co-owner of LoveHoney, the sex-toy firm which commissioned the survey, said: “[Men] are keener to tell their partner they love them but also to outwardly recognise this commitment by changing their Facebook status and introducing their loved one to their parents.

“Women are a little more wary – preferring to take their time before revealing similar levels of commitment.”

He added: “I think what is encouraging is that British men's stiff upper lip seems to have disappeared completely. They are prepared to be far more open about their feelings and tell their partner their true feelings. That has to be good thing.”

I knew that most of my modern day compatriots were mammy-pamby-faggottass-mummysboy-pathetic-limpdicked excuses for men...but 75%!!!

Woudn't be so quick to judge harshy. In this era of skanky women crying "rape" because they regretted the sex a week later, or were cheating and didn't want their boyfriend to know, sometimes rushing into the sack just to prove you're "alpha" isn't the best idea.

So not all of these guys are likely momma's boys who are afraid of getting in the sack with a woman because they think it's 'not nice", some of them might be guys with plenty of other options out there and can afford to be selective.

If a guy feels like he has to have sex just to increase the notches on his belt he's beta as well, an alpha man has sex totally on his own terms, sometimes he'll even turn down a woman just to prove to himself that he's alpha and gets to decide to have sex when, where and how he wants it.

[N°6]

Men in this forum should know how women can dominate men by manipulating them through how the woman happens to perceive manhood at any given time.

Part of the problem of the single-mother era is that women think that they are the priestesses who crown men with manhood and uncrown them when necessary. Your manhood is a birthright not a reward conferred unto you by a woman. The Jezebel and Ahab spirit is real.

At the core, women have the most power over men through the manipulation of the sex supply, the stimulation of the sex demand (like banks control money through the creation and manipulation of the money supply) and by getting men to work for their manhoods.

"If you were a real man, you would do x, y and z for me..."

I have foregone sex when offered on the first date as it was clearly being offered to me as a reward for good behaviour. Another time, a woman tried to shame me into having sex with her by suggesting I would not be a 'real man' if I didn't.

I refuse to enter sexual relationships with such a frame that sex is a lollipop that women reward boys with for good behaviour.

One such woman became my girlfriend and she later confessed that my refusal filled her with horny rage.

[cascadecombo]

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One such woman became my girlfriend and she later confessed that my refusal filled her with horny rage.

On of the more fun types of rage. The hate fuck.

[EDantes]

(01-27-2016 01:02 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

One such woman became my girlfriend and she later confessed that my refusal filled her with horny rage.

Ultimately a guy who lets himself be manipulated into having or not having sex is the beta.

A guy who knows he wants to have sex but is afraid to because he was told in Sunday School that sex outside of marriage is a sin is a beta.

And a guy who feels like he has to have sex with every woman he comes into contact with just to prove he's "not a beta" is also a beta.

Being an alpha is really about self-worth and self-control and doing things on your own terms; guys aren't "alpha because they get laid a lot, it's really that guys who get laid a lot are typically alpha.

[Fortis]

^ But can you truly be considered alpha if you're not getting laid a lot? A guy who isn't in control of his sexuality is being controlled sexually by someone or something.

[Rush87]

99.9% of men are full of shit when it comes to these question. A woman was probably asking them, and they were probably white knighting in an attempt to get sex.

[Easy_C]

I actually do. The main reason why is "never stick your dick in crazy", and it takes one or two more than that to know. Wouldn't recommend that approach to everyone though.

[EDantes]

(01-27-2016 02:32 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

^ But can you truly be considered alpha if you're not getting laid a lot? A guy who isn't in control of his sexuality is being controlled sexually by someone or something.

Watch the Bond films - he has tons of women throwing himself at him but he doesn't feel like he has to sleep with every woman out there to prove himself, that's what I'm saying

Sure some guys want to get laid, can't get laid, and then pretend they're doing it "out of virtue" but the opposite extreme is a form of beta as well - feeling like you have to get laid just to prove your alpha - because it means you're not deciding on your own terms.

[CleanSlate]

The male hamster is strong in this poll.

[MKDAWUSS]

IDK, I'd rather enjoy turning down an 8+. It's not something everyone can do.

[EDantes]

(01-27-2016 10:02 AM)MKDAWUSS Wrote:  

IDK, I'd rather enjoy turning down an 8+. It's not something everyone can do.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the spirit of game is meant to be a form of male courage and competition, not just a 'means to an end' to get pussy - if that's all it is then why bother with game when you can just hire hookers.

I enjoy picking up girls more for the sport of it than just the 'sex' - I've picked up girls but decided not to have sex with them because the pickup IMO is more fun in the long run, since it's a way for men to test their courage and act like men, rather than just something a guy forces himself to do to get laid.

[WalterBlack]

(01-27-2016 10:43 AM)EDantes Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 10:02 AM)MKDAWUSS Wrote:  

IDK, I'd rather enjoy turning down an 8+. It's not something everyone can do.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the spirit of game is meant to be a form of male courage and competition, not just a 'means to an end' to get pussy - if that's all it is then why bother with game when you can just hire hookers.

I enjoy picking up girls more for the sport of it than just the 'sex' - I've picked up girls but decided not to have sex with them because the pickup IMO is more fun in the long run, since it's a way for men to test their courage and act like men, rather than just something a guy forces himself to do to get laid.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I can't turn down the opportunity to get my dick wet if she passes the boner test and she's not a total bitch.

[masoud_akbari]

(04-09-2015 09:34 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Correction: 75% of British men could not get 1st date sex, and therefore turn this necessity into a virtue by declaring that they would turn it down anyway.

Too right. Hate it when people try and convince themselves that "they are too good to achieve X or Y just because they cant.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(04-08-2015 07:19 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

This was the survey http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/blog/2015/03/...mpetition/

Hardly scientific or worthy of serious consideration.

British men are incredibly thirsty. I've had success online simply by not being thirsty and standing out from the crowd that way. Many women complain about men just asking for sex(no game at all), and many respond very positively to being gamed.

They would all take first date sex if they could get it, but most don't know how to.

Yes, I agree, and I often wonder what the main factors are which are responsible for this thirst. Do you have a take on this, by the way?

[Conscious Pirate]

On the other hand, 75% of basic British bitches are begging a boning.

[EDantes]

(01-27-2016 03:43 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 10:43 AM)EDantes Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 10:02 AM)MKDAWUSS Wrote:  

IDK, I'd rather enjoy turning down an 8+. It's not something everyone can do.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the spirit of game is meant to be a form of male courage and competition, not just a 'means to an end' to get pussy - if that's all it is then why bother with game when you can just hire hookers.

I enjoy picking up girls more for the sport of it than just the 'sex' - I've picked up girls but decided not to have sex with them because the pickup IMO is more fun in the long run, since it's a way for men to test their courage and act like men, rather than just something a guy forces himself to do to get laid.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I can't turn down the opportunity to get my dick wet if she passes the boner test and she's not a total bitch.

I hear what you're saying. I've picked up girls who seemed cool at first but turned out to be psycho, so in retrospect I'm glad I didn't sleep with them, who knows they might've had STDs, or been the type to accuse 'rape' once they sobered up a little.

I've also met girls who were hot and cool and who were potential girlfriend material but ended up chasing them off because I was too eager to hit it on the first or second date (sure some guys here might only be interested in casual sex but I don't want that option to be totally off the table for me).

So I don't always try to have sex on the first date, and it doesn't have anything to do with puritanical mores, at least for me.

[Beyond Borders]

I suspect they're being misleading. It doesn't say whether the question asked if men would ever turn down first date sex, would always do it, or would routinely do it.

If the question was "would you ever," it doesn't surprise me that 75% of men could imagine a scenario where they would.

As for me, I've turned down a lot of pussy in my time. Not normally women I've bothered taking on a date, though.

Generally if a woman is a shitty person or playing games, I'd rather make a point that her throwing around her sexuality doesn't carry any weight with me. I also find it to be a turnoff when women are too sexually forward.

And unless I'm drunk, my physical standards can be pretty high.

So would I ever? Of course. My dick doesn't rule me.

Would I as a rule? With a girl I took on actual date? Fuck no.