[CleanSlate]

So, in chatting with girls, the topic of travel comes up a lot. When I say girls, I include a wide range of women: the ones I'm gaming, on dates with, coworkers, and female friends.

This may be an obvious no-brainer to you guys here, but I've started to notice a pattern with travel preferences of each gender since reading red pill material here and on Rollo's blog.

Most of the girls I've talked to have said they dream of traveling to, or have already traveled to and LOVED the following the places: Australia, Greece, Italy, France, and a few other Western-ish places, along with a random sampling of tropical Caribbean islands like Bahamas or Jamaica.

But when I bring up Japan, China, SEA, or Brazil, they scrunch up their faces and say "Ugh I hate those places!" (in reference to Asian countries). Or they give me a shit test like "Oh, so you're one of those guys who travel to those places?" with a smirky and slightly accusatory look (particularly in reference to SEA or Brazil).

I think it's pretty funny, considering that these sets of countries have MARKEDLY different sexual market economies. Now that I think about it, it is not a big surprise that their travel preferences are directly correlated to whatever own SMV that they would command in said countries, and vice versa.

It even comes down to which cities they prefer within a country... for example, they absolutely LOVE Toronto, but are lukewarm towards Montreal.

Have you guys noticed similar preference patterns when talking about travel, too?

[Sonsowey]

I would add that girls love Dubai

[Atlantic]

To be honest we are doing the exact same thing.

But ya 90% of girls I went to Uni with in Ireland have moved to either Dubai, Toronto or Australia.

[CleanSlate]

Of course, how could I forget Dubai... that got a few mentions from chicks who don't even look like those IG models.

[El Chinito loco]

This is a pretty common thing and if you look at top 10 travel lists they are almost always geared towards elderly white travelers or the SWPL (basically white female) set.

The one exception is that Thailand has become more popular with white western women in the past decade or so. I'm guessing it's because of movies like The Beach, various party mini documentaries, and other wacky references in pop culture has filtered through to the collective consciousness for trendwhores.

The U.A.E. has been an exotic location ever since movie stars started going there and it was made the focal point in a few chick flicks. It's a degenerate country though and it's suitably ironic that "empowered" women go there to get shit on by rich arabs.

[Geomann180]

(04-01-2015 06:05 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

I would add that girls love Dubai

They sure as shit du.

G

[turkishcandy]

I don't know about SMV, but the femininity of a girl is inversely proportional with the number of countries she visited. This should be obvious to any member who is getting laid in 2010s. But here is my own theory: The femininity of a girl is also directly proportional with the number of cities she visited in her own country. Because
1) She is making up for the lack of her international traveling by traveling in her own country
2) She is visiting relatives
3) She is traveling with her boyfriend
4) She is not rich and spoiled enough to go abroad, which means she is traditional and humbled.

Girls who wanna slut it up all the way go to a few certain places. In fact, not 90, not 95, not 99.9 but 100% of the girls I've talked to who have been to those countries fucked at least 1 local guy: Spain, Greece and Turkey. Show me a girl who is backpacking to Barcelona, and I will show you a girl who wouldn't mind getting sandwiched by two latinos who she will never see again after a guitar solo and half a bottle of red wine.

You can tell a lot from a girl's traveling experience. I'm yet to see a girl who came to Istanbul and didn't at least hook up with a Turkish guy. I'm yet to see a non-materialistic girl who has been to Dubai (okay they are all materialistic, but I'm talking about potential sugarbaby).

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Girls love:

Dubai - completely artificial, massive gender ratio in their favor
Italy - good-looking men, hit upon non-stop
France, Spain, Greece - dito
Australia - massive gender ratio in their favor, women love Australian men (except Australian women - heh)
Caribbean has the same metric - money, beaches, yachts etc.




For older women I would add also:

Caribbean - poorer areas for lover boys
North Africa - Tunesia, Egypt, tunisianloverats
Turkey
Central Africa even

The latter 3 are clearly destination for the low-smv aging woman:



This is not even a case for nature, culture, architecture or history.

Women instinctively know where their mental hamster bread is buttered. I have met Polish and Western women who absolutely refused traveling to China for 3 years with their husbands for the sake of the career.

But I have met 40 year old overweight women who said that they wanted to move to Tunisia with their 12 year old daughter, because life is so "great" there.

At least men are not so idiotic to move to Thailand with their 10 year old sons and daughters, because you enjoy the lifestyle so much over Norway (the woman who wanted to move to Tunisia was from Norway).

It's a good point Cleanslate - next time a bitch hits me up with shaming or other strange rationalizations I will be sure to point that little fact out to them.

[Foolsgo1d]

This is like a big dirty secret everyone knows but hates to admit to it. If I ever found out a girl I was dating had been to the romance countries or had traveled extensively I would be thinking;






Then I would leave...

[philosophical_recovery]

It was hard not to laugh in the face of the 8 I had back at my place who said she wanted to "take it slow" when I made a move on her

...a half hour after she had been telling me about partying up and running around various third world shitholes naked, along with the groups she was with. Was happy to get her the fuck out of my home after that bullshit.

[turkishcandy]

(04-01-2015 07:06 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

[Travesty]

(04-01-2015 07:38 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

It was hard not to laugh in the face of the 8 I had back at my place who said she wanted to "take it slow" when I made a move on her

...a half hour after she had been telling me about partying up and running around various third world shitholes naked, along with the groups she was with. Was happy to get her the fuck out of my home after that bullshit.

I hate that shit. The worst are girls in social circle you are working on and they are flirting with you. Then in their girl friend group they recount wild times without out right saying they whored around, as if you are too dumb or don't have enough self respect to care. Such as the study abroad and streaking in Lyons, France, the hot guys that showed them around Naples... the guy their freshman year they all thought of as a player, but had a huge crush over... i.e. a couple them fucked him and loved it.

It is just the worst girl game there is. It would be like saying to a chick on in a social circle... hey I just banged out a girl last night, I think it'd be great if you were next, you look like you love dick in your mouth, I probably won't call you after - you down?

[philosophical_recovery]

(04-01-2015 08:05 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

I hate that shit. The worst are girls in social circle you are working on and they are flirting with you. Then in their girl friend group they recount wild times without out right saying they whored around, as if you are too dumb or don't have enough self respect to care. Such as the study abroad and streaking in Lyons, France, the hot guys that showed them around Naples... the guy their freshman year they all thought of as a player, but had a huge crush over... i.e. a couple them fucked him and loved it.

It is just the worst girl game there is. It would be like saying to a chick on in a social circle... hey I just banged out a girl last night, I think it'd be great if you were next, you look like you love dick in your mouth, I probably won't call you after - you down?

It's probably more equivalent to: "I bought this girl a drink, and then that girl, and none of them banged me. Here, let me cover the tab for the whole group because you all are so beautiful. Want to come over?"

[CleanSlate]

(04-01-2015 07:38 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

It was hard not to laugh in the face of the 8 I had back at my place who said she wanted to "take it slow" when I made a move on her

...a half hour after she had been telling me about partying up and running around various third world shitholes naked, along with the groups she was with. Was happy to get her the fuck out of my home after that bullshit.

Oh that fucking pisses me off! Had a date off OKC a couple months ago and she rattled off all the places listed above with high white girl SMV and doing "crazy things" and "acting out", only to give me massive LMR and blue balls once I went for the bang. Practically kicked her ass out of my place.

Regarding my OP, it seems that you all have been aware of this for years already. I'm just coming back on the market, so I am slowly learning what you guys already knew for a while.

It's amazing how naive I was when I was on dates with girls who regaled me with watered down tales of her globetrotting activities, and I was like "oh yeah! that's a cool place, I've been there also, blah blah blah"

[Travesty]

^^

Yeah my example if you have enough bravado is probably perfect game to get laid.

[WalterBlack]

(04-01-2015 07:06 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

This is not even a case for nature, culture, architecture or history.

Women instinctively know where their mental hamster bread is buttered. I have met Polish and Western women who absolutely refused traveling to China for 3 years with their husbands for the sake of the career.

They also might think at the back of their mind that their husband will walk out on them for a slim younger hotter Chinese girl who will cook, clean and blow him, whereas nobody will give a shit about a white woman in China.

(04-01-2015 07:38 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

It was hard not to laugh in the face of the 8 I had back at my place who said she wanted to "take it slow" when I made a move on her

...a half hour after she had been telling me about partying up and running around various third world shitholes naked, along with the groups she was with. Was happy to get her the fuck out of my home after that bullshit.

As we all know, a lot of these women who "want to take things slow" don't bang the guy they are going on dates with, then straight after their dates they go and ride a male FWB's dick - I've been the FWB in that equation. I never trust women.

[TheWastelander]

(04-01-2015 06:05 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

I would add that girls love Dubai

[philosophical_recovery]

(04-01-2015 08:45 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

As we all know, a lot of these women who "want to take things slow" don't bang the guy they are going on dates with, then straight after their dates they go and ride a male FWB's dick - I've been the FWB in that equation. I never trust women.

Yup. I love hearing "he took me out to a really nice restaurant, then we went to a show. It was fun!" then she texted me, came over, and I pushed her to the floor and fucked her good.

Last year on a first date with another girl it was "I have to go, I have a dinner date with a friend" *slips hand up leg onto pussy* *pick up and throw all 100 pounds of her onto the bed*

"You're gonna spend the night and apologize to him tomorrow, but we're gonna have fun first in the morning"

[Bacchus]

You do get girls traveling to South America, but they're there to take clichéd photos.





Gotta have those instagram likes.

[Lechon]

Sure, that's an obvious connection. But it surprizes me how many girls like partying and holidays in SEA, and how many who like East Asian countries, anime and other Asian culture nowadays. My impression is a lot of young girls who would have gone sunbathing and partying in Greece or Spain now go to SEA or even Latin America instead. Usually it's younger, attractive girls who are used to fending off males everywhere, and are still attractive enough to get the pull they need to feel wanted even if the statistics work against them. Or just not that into getting validation from the outside world.

[WestIndianArchie]

Ticket price doesn't factor into this equation?

WIA

[cocotte]

Usually guys who travel to SEA are annoying Germanic/Jewish white men with an obsession with Asian women.

Brasil I have more respect for them

Brazilian girls are better

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-03-2015 11:29 AM)cocotte Wrote:  

Usually guys who travel to SEA are annoying Germanic/Jewish white men with an obsession with Asian women.

There have been better man in SEA as well - guys who can get laid in every Western highly competitive night club. This kind of shaming language is reserved to the fem-centric media.

We only don't condone massive P4P here, because that does not make you a better man. Getting laid in SEA with 8+ girls is no easy feat either - your average fat tourist is not going to get far that way.

Also - "obsession with Asian women" ? I smell a butt-hurt woman or mangina troll.

I repeat:

[CH-Toronto]

(04-01-2015 07:38 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

It was hard not to laugh in the face of the 8 I had back at my place who said she wanted to "take it slow" when I made a move on her

...a half hour after she had been telling me about partying up and running around various third world shitholes naked, along with the groups she was with. Was happy to get her the fuck out of my home after that bullshit.

I forget the article but it comes down to several factors:

1. Around age 28+ girls realize that the ride is ending, and so they think "ok, the next guy will be the one so I can't just show him I'm a slut who I'll sleep with right away". This is where the beta guys come in and step up and pick up the scraps.

2. It's the equivalent of a guy telling a girl, "Yeah, my last few relationships, we went all over the World, saw some great musicals/shows, and did exciting things every week. ... so how about we just get some Dennys for tonight?"

3. Because of girls' awful logic in point 1 they have little idea that their prime years have ended. Refusing a guy (in an effort to make him want her more) may have worked 10 years ago for her - but it's useless now.