[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-09-2015 01:07 PM)the1element Wrote:  

I live in the middle of no where with my dad and im without a car. Town is a thirty minute drive and the town is dead until Thursday-Sunday. Ontop of that my dad works shiftwork. I'm only here to save money and then travel Canada.

Blogger ThisisTrouble wrote recently a decent book called Cracking OKCupid. You will find also Cajun's book on online Game likely useful. I haven't read Cajun's but he is solid in Game and the book certainly helps.

You could also peruse RVForum on online Game and OKCupid tips for free - most apps/sites have entire threads devoted to them from OKCupid, Tinder to even SeekingArrangement (yes - those girls can be turned from demanding money to taking your cock for free, but that is rather mid - to advanced stuff or more suited for older guys).

Some of the rules can be applied from on all sites, some are rather specific.

You should also brush up on the Game 101 stuff, since your texting shows some basic lacks - beating yourself up (not good at texting), proposing something or unappealing to a woman to first dates like watching TV (even when the first date is wine, pizza and a movie at your place - you never say watch TV or play some X-box games [unless she is a Gamer-girl, but there are very few of those around]).

It seems that you basically need Game 101 and not on only online-Game. Bang might help you as well. Leave direct Daygame to later, after you have had some experiences with girls.

Since you are in a location, which makes online-Game a necessity your best choice is to improve on that, get better pics (also explained in the books how to do that), get some basic texts and headliners (there should be some qualifier & DHV embedded in that). Then get her on an evening date ASAP, escalate and fuck on first or second date. Girls that young now don't even go on dates mostly.

If you have trouble banging hotter girls, then lower your bar for a while, fuck an uglier one and then move forward with improving quality later on.

[the1element]

Closest would be Toronto and that's like 20 bucks one way, maybe a little less like 14 but still a decent amount.

[Medic42]

I'm a game newbie myself so feel free to take my advise with a grain of salt. First you deserve a lot of credit for recognizing your weakness in dealing with women and taking the initiative to improve. You've gotten a lot of great advise about texting and going back to basics. I would add that it sounds like you might be anxious about touching/kissing girls. Deal with it like you would approach anxiety, push the interactions more. It is easier said than done but release yourself from caring about their reaction to your touch or when you go for the kiss. Accept that you'll probably make mistakes that will drive some of the girls you're practicing on away. That's ok, there are more women out there, have faith that you will improve with every interaction.

Keep us updated on your progress, it's great to see other men working to improve themselves rather than simply resigning themselves to a life of mediocrity.

[the1element]

Did an approach today

I went to a coffee shop to work on some writing and within two minutes of sitting down a cutie walked in and sat at a table close to me. I smirked at her as she was walking to her table. Sometime after she sat down I leaned over and asked her to watch my stuff while I go for a smoke, she agrees and I go for a smoke. I come back and ask how many people tried to steal my stuff.

She said " About three."

Me: "I knew I put my stuff into good hands."

Her:*smiles*

then I asked if she came to the shop often. Found out she was from France and was on her way to Toronto but decided to stop at our town before she went to Toronto. I joked with her about French language and tried to guess what she did. I got it right on the first go in which she was kind of surprised and asked how I knew. I responded with "I can't reveal all of my secrets.". After about 10 minutes of talking I went for the number by inviting her out to a local bar with a few friends of mine. Unfortunately she had a boyfriend but still said she would stop by and even asked for the address of the place. No number and I don't think shes going to show up but I'm glad I approached and tried to apply game. Just started reading BANG and it's quite helpful but I'm still at the part about approaching.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-09-2015 06:34 PM)the1element Wrote:  

Did an approach today

I went to a coffee shop to work on some writing and within two minutes of sitting down a cutie walked in and sat at a table close to me. I smirked at her as she was walking to her table. Sometime after she sat down I leaned over and asked her to watch my stuff while I go for a smoke, she agrees and I go for a smoke. I come back and ask how many people tried to steal my stuff.

She said " About three."

Me: "I knew I put my stuff into good hands."

Her:*smiles*

then I asked if she came to the shop often. Found out she was from France and was on her way to Toronto but decided to stop at our town before she went to Toronto. I joked with her about French language and tried to guess what she did. I got it right on the first go in which she was kind of surprised and asked how I knew. I responded with "I can't reveal all of my secrets.". After about 10 minutes of talking I went for the number by inviting her out to a local bar with a few friends of mine. Unfortunately she had a boyfriend but still said she would stop by and even asked for the address of the place. No number and I don't think shes going to show up but I'm glad I approached and tried to apply game. Just started reading BANG and it's quite helpful but I'm still at the part about approaching.

Good approach. You are way ahead than most 20 year olds - even those who banged already. Your approach was text-book stuff that Roosh describes in Day Bang - solid indirect Game.
But I would not invite her directly to a bar with friends. You should have just stuck to the number. Boyfriend does not matter jack-shit - that dude may be an ex in 2 weeks. There are a few boyfriend-destroyers one can do.

In any case - well done - keep going for it and you will bang in style soon enough.

[the1element]

(03-09-2015 06:39 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 06:34 PM)the1element Wrote:  

Did an approach today

I went to a coffee shop to work on some writing and within two minutes of sitting down a cutie walked in and sat at a table close to me. I smirked at her as she was walking to her table. Sometime after she sat down I leaned over and asked her to watch my stuff while I go for a smoke, she agrees and I go for a smoke. I come back and ask how many people tried to steal my stuff.

She said " About three."

Me: "I knew I put my stuff into good hands."

Her:*smiles*

then I asked if she came to the shop often. Found out she was from France and was on her way to Toronto but decided to stop at our town before she went to Toronto. I joked with her about French language and tried to guess what she did. I got it right on the first go in which she was kind of surprised and asked how I knew. I responded with "I can't reveal all of my secrets.". After about 10 minutes of talking I went for the number by inviting her out to a local bar with a few friends of mine. Unfortunately she had a boyfriend but still said she would stop by and even asked for the address of the place. No number and I don't think shes going to show up but I'm glad I approached and tried to apply game. Just started reading BANG and it's quite helpful but I'm still at the part about approaching.

Good approach. You are way ahead than most 20 year olds - even those who banged already. Your approach was text-book stuff that Roosh describes in Day Bang - solid indirect Game.
But I would not invite her directly to a bar with friends. You should have just stuck to the number. Boyfriend does not matter jack-shit - that dude may be an ex in 2 weeks. There are a few boyfriend-destroyers one can do.

In any case - well done - keep going for it and you will bang in style soon enough.

should i of just ignored the boyfriend objection and said

okay, what your number? Lets get a drink on Thursday?

not even acknowledging it or next time should i do something different?

[haywire]

(03-09-2015 06:47 PM)the1element Wrote:  

should i of just ignored the boyfriend objection and said

okay, what your number? Lets get a drink on Thursday?

not even acknowledging it or next time should i do something different?

That was a really smooth pickup attempt you described above so you do have the social intelligence and wit to make things happen. Only thing you could have done is instead of inviting her to hang out with friends you could have just said "lets grab a drink one of these days". And for the bf objection, you could say something like "so you have started telling me about your problems already?".

I personally don't bother with chicks who give me the bf excuse, it could mean two things - she really has a bf or she isn't attracted to me for whatever reason, but there is a rare case when the girl is shit testing you as well.

At any rate, keep trying and you'll succeed very soon. Have you ever thought about getting a MILF/cougar? They are a lot easier than younger chicks and are experienced sexually and could make for good learning ground for you.

[Guitarman]

The "I've got a boyfriend" may have just been a shit test. There are good lines you can use to diffuse the BF shit test. But I agree with the good advice above, approach as you've been doing. Keep texting to Dates/logistics arranging only and don't beat yourself up. You're way ahead of where I was at 20 years old, keep up the good work!

[the1element]

another few approaches yesterday, I went to a bar just to see if there was anyone out on Monday in my town. There was a special band in town and it drew a few university kids and some cuties. As soon as I got into the place a girl seemed to notice me and said hey, this kind of caught me off guard but I responded back asked if she came for the band and she said she did and that she was going for a smoke. I never got her name and I never saw her again but that was an interesting experience.

I walked around the bar saw a cute PALE girl chatting with a few guys I noticed she didn't look very Canadian so I went in with

Me: You're not Canadian are you..I guarantee I can guess where you're from.

Her: hahah, guess

Me: Obviously from Nigeria, you got the whole look and if i turned my back I'm sure I would be missing a few dollars.

Her: hahah, you're wrong I thought you said you'd guarantee that you get it

Me: stop lying I know you're from Nigeria. cant fool me

Her: hahaha, and you're from?

Me: Take a guess

Her: I suck at this

Me: Can't be much worse than I am

she guessed where I am from with Russia, which I get a lot but I'm just Canadian. After this I segway'd this into the venue and the music the band was playing, I related it to my time in Montreal in that they reminded me a lot of an artist I used to see when I lived there. She asked me about Montreal and I started talking about what life is like there, making sure to include her friends. After a story I said I'm going to go watch the band and left. I didn't go for the number because I wasn't really feeling her.

Watching the band I opened another cute foreign girl. She looked Brazilian so I used the same line except instead of Nigeria I used Brazil. She wondered how I got it right and I jokingly said

Me WHAT? How could you forget....

Her: ??

Me: you robbed me when I visited rio de janeiro. I want my 6 dollars back, theif.

Her: noonno I never robbed you..

Me: then you must have an twin, the question is which one is the evil one?

Her: I'm the nice one.

Me: Then why did you rob me?

At this point she went along with the joke a bit

Her: I needed money for food, I'm a poor brazilian girl.

Me: If you're robbing tourists with six dollars no surprise your poor. Are you in Canada to rob richer people?

Her: No, I'm here for studies.

Me: Let's go sit other there (it was a nice corner booth where I could get some kino, away from the dance floor)

At this point I stopped the role play and started to learn about why she went to Canada, I asked about Brazilian lifestyle and brought up that she robbed me again, from there we talked about music and bantered nonsense back and forth. When I got her name it rolled off the tongue really well so I joked about Canadian girls and how there names are like "Crystal Smith" or Emily Collum they don't sound nice. I did a little bit of kino by rubbing her back and I had my arm around her. I was getting a little bored of the venue and decided to go for the number, got her number and I'm going to text her tonight. She wasn't a great looking girl, all around average nothing ugly but nothing spectacular.

I'm pretty happy with the Brazilian approach, maybe I'll be able to get her to go on a date with me.

[redbeard]

You're approaching....you've already placed yourself above 95% of all males.