[colombiano972]

I've had this problem lately with professional chicks that tend to have busy professional and social lives. I've read in other parts that these type of chicks are time wasters and that I should look elsewhere (something that I don't have problem with at all). I get the feeling that this is an indirect way that women use to say "I'm not interested".

But I feel like there is something missing in this equation that I could possibly do better to get these chicks to actually break away from their flaky nature.

[jariel]

(01-19-2015 01:55 PM)colombiano972 Wrote:  

I've had this problem lately with professional chicks that tend to have busy professional and social lives. I've read in other parts that these type of chicks are time wasters and that I should look elsewhere (something that I don't have problem with at all). I get the feeling that this is an indirect way that women use to say "I'm not interested".

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

(01-19-2015 01:55 PM)colombiano972 Wrote:  

But I feel like there is something missing in this equation that I could possibly do better to get these chicks to actually break away from their flaky nature.

No. You're not missing anything at all. If a girl wants to meet up with you believe me, she'll make it work. Like jariel mentioned earlier, that "feeling" you have is 100% true. Onto the next one.

HSLD

[RouteBackwards]

(01-19-2015 01:55 PM)colombiano972 Wrote:  

I've had this problem lately with professional chicks that tend to have busy professional and social lives. I've read in other parts that these type of chicks are time wasters and that I should look elsewhere (something that I don't have problem with at all). I get the feeling that this is an indirect way that women use to say "I'm not interested".

But I feel like there is something missing in this equation that I could possibly do better to get these chicks to actually break away from their flaky nature.

Every female who is in her 20-somethings is busy. If you have enough game, she will find a spot in her "busy" schedule for you. If you're uninteresting, why is she going to give up any of her schedule?

In other words, this is an easy way for women to keep you on the line when that alpha busting in her decides he's found someone else for the night.

Move on, or evaluate how your initial game factors into this in the first place.

[heavy]

HSLD is right. Didn't need to read past the title.

Note, it may be she really is busy with her profession and not prioritize fucking, or it may be she's not interested, but either way trust your instincts. Probably a combination of the two, but what do you care, there's lotsa bitches out there.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

Just keep in mind, people make time for the things they deem important/fun

Women particularly & especially

[WestIndianArchie]

(01-19-2015 01:55 PM)colombiano972 Wrote:  

I've had this problem lately with professional chicks that tend to have busy professional and social lives. I've read in other parts that these type of chicks are time wasters and that I should look elsewhere (something that I don't have problem with at all). I get the feeling that this is an indirect way that women use to say "I'm not interested".

But I feel like there is something missing in this equation that I could possibly do better to get these chicks to actually break away from their flaky nature.

If I told you that you'd win a billion US dollars if you met me @ 8 pm on a Friday night, would you go?

Of course you would. You'd leave your computer right now, shoot a meter maid in the face, eat a mayonnaise and toothpaste sandwich and camp out for that billion dollars

When a chick meets, "That guy" aka "Mr. Big" aka "The one who drives her wild", that's the equivalent of her winning the lottery.

So when a chick says she's too busy to meet with you
1) it says that she's not interested

but it also says

2) you're not interesting enough to break her pre-determined schedule.

You can mitigate that fact by thinking to yourself, you're not interesting enough TO HER, not that you're not a cool dude with shit going on. Probably ease the pain when you realize that she rarely meets "that dude", and women rarely meet "that dude".

I say you need to aspire higher than just being one of the few guys who can get her #.

You want to be the guy that every chick drops what they're doing to be with you.

That doesn't mean become famous, super-rich, or politically powerful.

It means when you meet chicks in real life, you have to utterly destroy their ideas of what it's like to be with a MAN.

The easy part is eating right, dressing well, working out, and all that surface shit.

The hard part is rocking her world.

In your mind you're already thinking take this chick on an elaborate date, roller coasters and bank robberies.

That's not exactly what I'm talking about.

Next time you pull a chick out for a date, instead of yammering on about commonalities and what she likes to do when the lights go down - blow her world up.

"what the fuck are you talking about? What are we doing here? Is this some sort of bullshit script that you do with all of your dates?"

Break her out of her social robot ways.

Cats really not talking about game anymore. it's a lot of going through the motions and online photo profile tweaking.

WIA

[Rawmeo]

If two chicks ask you at the same time, "tomorrow night, what are you up to? wanna come to my place?", and a chick is a tight 8/10 and the other one is a chubby one, you will be "busy" for one of them, and "available" for the other.

It goes both ways.

"I am busy" means "I am not interested". Even while managing a business, you have evenings, days off, weekends, etc. so being 100% busy is just impossible. If she can't bother looking at her agenda and say "I am busy monday and tuesday, but wesnesday evening I'm free", it gives you a pretty good idea of how much she's interested.

Next.

[vinman]

You always make time for what matters. And if they're not making time for you move on.

[tallandblonde]

Other members hit it on the head. Next. Can't expect girls to be blunt with you. They'd rather hide behind their phones and text you "I'm busy this weekend, maybe next weekend" week after week.

[Dalaran1991]

Fuck. If only I could give WIA multiple reps.

What everyone said. I would only add, this shit happens even with girls who were once attracted to you. I remembered one of my best SNL, with a solid 8, I met her talked for 2 min but used my shock tactic dance game. Told her to meet me weekend. She arrives exactly on time. No LMR or token resistance when I took her home either.

Then I fucked up and over the past 2 months I've try to restart 3 times and every single fucking time she's "busy". When a girl doesn't want to see you, she's always busy.

[Brosemite]

(01-19-2015 02:20 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

The hard part is rocking her world.

Note to self...great continuing ed advice. Sometimes one gets too caught up in the game & forgets common tidbits like this that resulted in success in the past.

[Redwood]

Being the anomaly in any type of situation such as these will get you much farther than the average cat.

Oh, and WIA wins the thread obviously.

[Cobra]

@WIA not that it hasn't been said but ..

[kaotic]

(01-19-2015 02:20 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Next time you pull a chick out for a date, instead of yammering on about commonalities and what she likes to do when the lights go down - blow her world up.

"what the fuck are you talking about? What are we doing here? Is this some sort of bullshit script that you do with all of your dates?"

Break her out of her social robot ways.

Cats really not talking about game anymore. it's a lot of going through the motions and online photo profile tweaking.

WIA

It's the goddamn truth, and I'm partly guilty of doing this.

Usually when I blow her world up, it's red pill statements coupled with a smirk, this draws them into deeper more meaningful conversations.

[WestIndianArchie]

how regular people date

Boy meets girl.
Boy says and does stuff.
Girl judges.
They get together.

The player way?

Boy meets girl
Boy says and does stuff
Girl tries to judge
Boy judges girl instead*
Girl seeks boys approval
They get together.

^That's the script.

The only real difference between the normal version of the story and the player version is the shift of power. It's that flip of the script that attracts the woman. Your looks help, they get you in the door, they appeal to her reptilian brain - but you can monkey with her serotonin levels by what you say and do, and what you get her to say and do.

When the power shifts to the man, all is right in the world. If the power remains in the woman's hand, the man might get the lay, but it is at her pleasure, not at his. If the girl holds the power, the relationship fails.

Now imagine this scenario - the Blow Up

Quite simply, at the first sign that she's feeling you sexually and trusting you*
go off script.

Take her out of the play, out of the movie.

In practical terms, it's stopping what you are doing, and leading her to a new experience.
This can be done physically, but it can be done verbally as well.
(this implies that you share the same language and culture, and that you know the script)

Sometimes you can just get meta and say something like
"it's obvious that we like each other, that there's some chemistry- let's drop all the pretenses"

Other times, in the middle of dinner you can put 40 bucks on the table, take her hand and leave w/o saying a word.

After you've won her over, slightly, you're taking bold action and putting her in a new situation that she is not expecting and has not planned for.

Where you go, what you do, sort of doesn't matter, but it's no longer about the bang.
You're introducing her to a new way of life, a new way of being.

"When you are with me, you will never know what to expect, but you can and will rely on me. "

This is why travel, amusement parks, haunted houses, and things that mess with your brain are such aphrodisiacs. Same idea about using movement and environment helps to explain why venue changes work.

Dancing is the same sort of thing when the chick isn't a super great dancer. If she's rubbing her ass on your dick, stand her up and tilt her head back on to your collar bone. Physically this changes the amount of blood rushing out of her head and she feels a sensation. She thinks it's magic.

In all cases, you're bringing a girl through an experience.

The key is to make it less and less about the thing that you're doing, the externality and more about the fact that you're doing this thing to her - and when she's with you - she's having this amazing time.

So it could be one of those "look up at the stars at night" type conversation.
Or getting her to admit to some shit that she's never told anyone.
It could be getting that side splitting can't stop laughing joke that you tell her on the spot.

Admittedly, this isn't a "get laid tonight" idea.
You can bang a chick by running the script.

This idea is about becoming the person that she drops everything for.

WIA

[DJ-Matt]

I had a solid 8 single mom (at 19) hitting me up, except when trying to make plans she just goes silent for over a day, making sure to fuck up the possibility of meeting on a weekend. Last 2 weekends she conveniently texts back on Monday, fuck that cunt. NEXT!

[Dr. Howard]

(01-20-2015 12:02 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  

I had a solid 8 single mom (at 19) hitting me up, except when trying to make plans she just goes silent for over a day, making sure to fuck up the possibility of meeting on a weekend. Last 2 weekends she conveniently texts back on Monday, fuck that cunt. NEXT!

Whereas I was banging a single mom that would leave her young kids (6 and 8) alone in the house after they had gone to sleep to come over to my place and bang.

Questionable parenting, but proof that its more dependent on their level of interest as WIA has said.

[Parlay44]

If she wants the cock she'll make time for the cock.