[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-16-2015 07:41 AM)SteveMcMahon Wrote:  

Funny that you post that - there were rumors back in the day circling that Eyes Wide Shut society members could get those 2 performing live - father fucking his underage daughter can be very lucrative.

I guess she got her pay-off and she is as crazy as can be expected by someone growing up in celebrity-land.

[Yatagan]

(01-16-2015 02:36 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(01-16-2015 02:20 AM)CactusCat589 Wrote:  

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Changing laws and institutions based off people wanting cocks in their asses, lesbians scissoring denying human nature, young children cutting off their dicks and balls and girls putting testosterone in their bodies to be girls. Grown men who dress like women and women who dress like men, cisgender and whatever this is. Guys, why stop now? Isn't this what we wanted?

Is incest actually worse than any of those things?

Yes, because none of the above practices is likely to transfer genetic failure on to a kid who didn't ask for it or for the humiliation of having parents who are closely related.

For what it's worth, not all incest results in inbreeding, especially with all the anti-pregnancy measures we have going. Besides, not all inbreeding results in fucked up kids either.

[dads]

(01-16-2015 09:26 AM)Seboist Wrote:  

(01-16-2015 02:36 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(01-16-2015 02:20 AM)CactusCat589 Wrote:  

Quote:

Changing laws and institutions based off people wanting cocks in their asses, lesbians scissoring denying human nature, young children cutting off their dicks and balls and girls putting testosterone in their bodies to be girls. Grown men who dress like women and women who dress like men, cisgender and whatever this is. Guys, why stop now? Isn't this what we wanted?

Is incest actually worse than any of those things?

Yes, because none of the above practices is likely to transfer genetic failure on to a kid who didn't ask for it or for the humiliation of having parents who are closely related.

For what it's worth, not all incest results in inbreeding, especially with all the anti-pregnancy measures we have going. Besides, not all inbreeding results in fucked up kids either.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is not a topic we need to bridge a gap on. Let's just be firmly against fucking members of your family.

[Libertas]

(01-16-2015 09:26 AM)Seboist Wrote:  

(01-16-2015 02:36 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(01-16-2015 02:20 AM)CactusCat589 Wrote:  

Quote:

Changing laws and institutions based off people wanting cocks in their asses, lesbians scissoring denying human nature, young children cutting off their dicks and balls and girls putting testosterone in their bodies to be girls. Grown men who dress like women and women who dress like men, cisgender and whatever this is. Guys, why stop now? Isn't this what we wanted?

Is incest actually worse than any of those things?

Yes, because none of the above practices is likely to transfer genetic failure on to a kid who didn't ask for it or for the humiliation of having parents who are closely related.

For what it's worth, not all incest results in inbreeding, especially with all the anti-pregnancy measures we have going. Besides, not all inbreeding results in fucked up kids either.

Inbreeding has its worst effects over multiple generations. The Habsburg ruling dynasty in Spain is a good example. Outbreeding stopped around the 1550's and so by the time Charles II of Spain was born in 1661, all of his ancestors were very closely related. The result was an impotent hapless man:

http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience...-of-kings/

So while inbreeding in one generation may not be terrible, if it continues over a few generations it is extremely bad.

Normalizing incest in any way will certainly lead to an increased risk of that. If there is any sexual line in the sand that needs to be drawn, this is most decidedly it.

[SouthernCasanova]

It's a disgrace. Welcome to modern-day Babylon, gentlemen.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-16-2015 09:38 AM)Libertas Wrote:  

So while inbreeding in one generation may not be terrible, if it continues over a few generations it is extremely bad.

Normalizing incest in any way will certainly lead to an increased risk of that. If there is any sexual line in the sand that needs to be drawn, this is most decidedly it.

Our perception and scientific level regarding epigenetics is highly limited - it's not as if we can change genes willy-nilly already creating a tall super-human by genetic tinkering.

We only see what can be observed with the naked eye.

Would you be comfortable having a child with a girl whose parents are mother and son?

I would probably not even risk fucking her, unless I put on 2 condoms & she is on the pill or best has an implant.

Normalizing it by claiming, that it worked out fine in my case is ridiculous.

[superbrko]

Fucking sick animals,a whole lot,and their enablers.
They should be put down like rabid dogs.
Leviticus has such a fine ring
They shall surely be put to death

[dads]

(01-16-2015 09:47 AM)superbrko Wrote:  

Fucking sick animals,a whole lot,and their enablers.
They should be put down like rabid dogs.
Leviticus has such a fine ring
They shall surely be put to death

[Libertas]

As a matter of fact, I wonder if this is a good opportunity for us to try some spatial dominance tactics as I wrote about in my latest post on ROK.

Conduct a raid, tell them how they're huge degenerates, and back it up with the Charles II example?

[TheWastelander]

(01-16-2015 09:49 AM)dads Wrote:  

(01-16-2015 09:47 AM)superbrko Wrote:  

Fucking sick animals,a whole lot,and their enablers.
They should be put down like rabid dogs.
Leviticus has such a fine ring
They shall surely be put to death

I just noticed your username. What are you hiding?

[sixsix]

(01-16-2015 07:26 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

[...]

I also has some parental rage that of course the long, creepy part of the story had to be a daughter hanging out with her displaced father and "surprise" all sorts of fucked up things happen.

I get enough suspicious and disapproving looks when I am out for a walk with my 5 year old daughter, like people assume I am a kidnapper or 'stranger with candy'. Shit like this just adds fuel to the fire. Now not only is every man a date rapist, now they are all going to be assumed to be lusting after their daughters.

Might be a coincidence, but keep this in mind:

Original Article Wrote:

Consensual incest between fathers and their daughters remains the least reported and perhaps the most taboo sort of GSA relationship. Keith Pullman, who runs a marriage equality blog, has personally talked to over 20 GSA couples and notes that he’s only had a few father-daughter couples speak out, speculating that many of them fear that others will assume the daughter must have been abused in childhood [...].

Here, an 18-year-old woman from the Great Lakes region describes her romantic relationship of almost two years with the biological father she met after 12 years of estrangement.

So the facts are that most known GSA is between mother and son. In other words, where the female parent has sex with her child.

Then some 'expert' speculates, without any arguments, that this difference is the result of reporting bias. Because it's more taboo. Really, that much more of a taboo than a mother fucking her son? More likely, it happens a lot less.

And the pick the exception for the story, so it can be framed as creepy men preying on their daughters!

Journalism...

[viajero]

(01-16-2015 09:57 AM)sixsix Wrote:  

Journalism...

Wikipedia claims that "Father-daughter incest was for many years the most commonly reported and studied form of incest.[43][44] More recently, studies have suggested that sibling incest, particularly older brothers having sexual relations with younger siblings, is the most common form of incest,[45][46][47][48][49][50][51][52][53] with some studies finding sibling incest occurring more frequently than other forms of incest.[54]"

Don't really care enough to go validate the sources, especially since a lot of them are books, but I'd be curious if there is conflicting information on the prevalence of the various types of incest. Seems hard to get good data on something that's so likely to be unreported.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest

What's with all the 'society coming to an end as we know it' stuff? Incest seems to be as taboo as it's ever been, one horrific Jezebel article doesn't change that.

this is pretty fucking disgusting, though.

[Libertas]

Homosexuality was as taboo as it ever was in the 60's. Even in the 90's it was still an extremely scorned thing. It got normalized with blinding speed.

Transgenderism is quickly being normalized too. Give it another five years on its present course and it will likely be as normalized (despite its being an extremely freakish occurrence statistically).

The lesson is that these entrenched sexual minority groups can wield extremely disproportionate amounts of power with the aid of their sympathizers.

This post isn't to debate the merits of homosexuality or transgenderism, but to show just how quickly something can be normalized. We do not want that to happen with incest, and if the social justice industrial complex is beginning to view incest in a way that is anything but negative, it is something we need to be very aware of.

[Quintus Curtius]

Incest is a felony in every state. I don't understand why stories like these don't result in criminal charges being brought against the perpetrators.

[TheWastelander]

(01-16-2015 10:22 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Incest is a felony in every state. I don't understand why stories like these don't result in criminal charges being brought against the perpetrators.

Because these brave "journalists" won't reveal their sources. Instead they want to give a microphone to complete and utter degenerates.

Clicks are how they make their money, after all.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-16-2015 10:19 AM)Libertas Wrote:  

Homosexuality was as taboo as it ever was in the 60's. Even in the 90's it was still an extremely scorned thing. It got normalized with blinding speed.

Transgenderism is quickly being normalized too. Give it another five years on its present course and it will likely be as normalized (despite its being an extremely freakish occurrence statistically).

The lesson is that these entrenched sexual minority groups can wield extremely disproportionate amounts of power with the aid of their sympathizers.

This post isn't to debate the merits of homosexuality or transgenderism, but to show just how quickly something can be normalized. We do not want that to happen with incest, and if the social justice industrial complex is beginning to view incest in a way that is anything but negative, it is something we need to be very aware of.

Transgenderism was yesterday - trans-speciesism is now in:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/...even-race/



She considers herself a doe by the way.

Wonder when governments will sponsor operations to change people into animals.

If you can be born the wrong gender, why not the wrong species?

[Yatagan]

(01-16-2015 10:54 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(01-16-2015 10:19 AM)Libertas Wrote:  

Homosexuality was as taboo as it ever was in the 60's. Even in the 90's it was still an extremely scorned thing. It got normalized with blinding speed.

Transgenderism is quickly being normalized too. Give it another five years on its present course and it will likely be as normalized (despite its being an extremely freakish occurrence statistically).

The lesson is that these entrenched sexual minority groups can wield extremely disproportionate amounts of power with the aid of their sympathizers.

This post isn't to debate the merits of homosexuality or transgenderism, but to show just how quickly something can be normalized. We do not want that to happen with incest, and if the social justice industrial complex is beginning to view incest in a way that is anything but negative, it is something we need to be very aware of.

Transgenderism was yesterday - trans-speciesism is now in:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/...even-race/



Wonder when governments will sponsor operations to change people into animals.

If you can be born the wrong gender, why not the wrong species?

If she wants to prove how much of a "deer' she is, then she should go out in the woods during hunting season.

[Canopus]

I am a tree.

I am perfectly 100 percent allowed to call myself a tree. If I want to dig a hole in the ground and sit in it and attempt to grow leaves and allow birds to make nests out of me, I am 100 percent allowed to do so. If I want to graft branches and seed pods and pine cones to my body, I am 100 percent allowed to do so.

The United States must declare me an endangered species and protect me from all attempts at harvest.

I also deserve a plot of land at the arboretum. Give me one. Otherwise I cannot propagate and give good things to the earth.

Discriminating against me in the workplace or in public for these beliefs and practices is highly unethical, and it may be illegal. If you refuse these demands, you are violating my botanical identity.

[DChambers]

[Mekorig]

(01-16-2015 03:46 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I have read in various books by really powerful men that they want to lower the age of consent to age zero - yes - zero - just like the tests that Kinsey had let done. The right of the child by the UN includes a right for sex of children, which parents should not interfere with.

Eh? Where did you read that Zelcorpion. I have readed both the Declaration and Convention of Child Rights, and in neither they said something similar to that. In fact, the Convention have an emphasis in the protection of the childran against any kind of abuse, including sexual.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(01-16-2015 09:06 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(01-16-2015 07:41 AM)SteveMcMahon Wrote:  

Funny that you post that - there were rumors back in the day circling that Eyes Wide Shut society members could get those 2 performing live - father fucking his underage daughter can be very lucrative.

I guess she got her pay-off and she is as crazy as can be expected by someone growing up in celebrity-land.

As a founding member of the Eyes Wide Shut society I've seen those two performing live on a couple of occasions, and I can tell you it was nothing to write home about. Kissinger was dozing off and Alan Dershowitz was doing sudoku the whole time.

[runsonmagic]

The message of every article like this is "as long as the woman is okay with it, we should be to."

Imagine the reverse of this article: "A Man Describes Why He Started Fucking His Daughter."

Imagine how these girls would react if I published an interview with the Dad from his perspective on ROK.

We're only seeing the daughters perspective. Of course she trusts him. Girls with shitty fathers will do anything for approval - especially from said fathers.

The real message of articles like this is that if you can game a woman to the point where she'll publicly defend you, you can get away with anything. ANYTHING.

And yes medical terms like GSA are definitely an attempt to normalize this, and to turn sexual attractions from moral issues into medical ones that we can diagnose and sell pharmaceuticals for.

[runsonmagic]

dupe

[SteveMcMahon]

(01-16-2015 09:06 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(01-16-2015 07:41 AM)SteveMcMahon Wrote:  

Funny that you post that - there were rumors back in the day circling that Eyes Wide Shut society members could get those 2 performing live - father fucking his underage daughter can be very lucrative.

I guess she got her pay-off and she is as crazy as can be expected by someone growing up in celebrity-land.

[runsonmagic]

From the interview:

Quote:

most of the kids my age were hooked on heroin, so it was hard to find friends