[2Wycked]

(h/t patriactionary)

You don't need to watch this video, relevant links here:

The Old Cultural Marxism Wiki page

The New Cultural Marxism page: Frankfurt School conspiracy theory

Relevant commentary from Kotaku In Action:

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Here's the Wikipedia's old article on Cultural Marxism:

Wikipedia - Cultural Marxism

And here is what it redirects to now:

Wikipedia - Cultural Marxism

This what 1984 looks like, folks. Yes, the people who are behind all this censorship are cultural marxists. It is not a conspiracy theory that critical theory was developed by the cultural marxists at the Frankfurt School. Don't believe me?

Here's the what the old Cultural Marxism Wikpedia page has to say

Wikipedia - Cultural Marxism

After 1945 a number of these surviving Marxists returned to both West and East Germany. Adorno and Horkheimer returned to Frankfurt in 1953 and reestablished the Institute. In West Germany in the late 1950s and early 1960s, a revived interest in Marxism produced a new generation of Marxists engaged with analyzing matters such as the cultural transformations taking place under Fordist capitalism, the impact of new types of popular music and art on traditional cultures, and maintaining the political integrity of discourse in the public sphere.[8] This renewed interest was exemplified by the journal Das Argument. The tradition of thought associated with the Frankfurt School is Critical Theory.

But wait a minute sneakywiki, if Wikipedia isn't a reliable source of information, why are you using their old article as evidence when it is obviously unreliable?

Okay, have a reliable scholarly source:

Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy - Critical Theory

Critical Theory has a narrow and a broad meaning in philosophy and in the history of the social sciences. “Critical Theory” in the narrow sense designates several generations of German philosophers and social theorists in the Western European Marxist tradition known as the Frankfurt School.

So we've established that, yes, critical theory was indeed developed at the Frankfurt School. But sneakywiki, I'm not so sure that these SJW's subscribe to this ideology, they're just a small group of hipsters in San Francico, right? Wrong. If your at all familiar with critical theory, you will recognize them as critical theorists. It's not a fringe opinion, even Newsweek recognized Anita Sarkeesian as a critical theorist.

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Newsweek - Anita Sarkeesian

She dared to apply critical theory to video games, and gamers didn't like it.

And at last we've established that Anita Sarkeesian and her group of followers are critical theorists. So lets take a look at the new Wikipedia article for cultural marxism:

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Wikipedia - Frankfurt School conspiracy theory (formerly Cultural Marxism)

The Frankfurt School conspiracy theory, often termed "Cultural Marxism", is a right-wing conspiracy theory that postulates that the Frankfurt School of critical theorists deliberately subverted traditional Western values through interventions into culture, leading to what is called political correctness. This represents an alternative to the scholarly understanding of the Frankfurt School, which argues that while members of the Frankfurt School did individually engage in social critique, they never developed any unified theory or collective political agenda with regard to the United States.

"[T]hey never developed any unified theory or collective political agenda with regard to the United States." So, what Wikipedia wants me to believe is that this most recent group of critical theorists infiltrating gaming with the goal of censure is not a collective political agenda?

Sorry Jimmy, you're never getting another penny from me.

EDITS:

The editor who redirected the page is a self described cultural marxist

Wikipedia Cultural Marxism Talk Page
Wikipedia Editor RGloucester's User Page

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Like the video said, is rape culture or patriarchy Wiki pages labeled "radical conspiracy theories?" No, they are not. Nothing left-wing or radical is treated like a fanciful conspiracy theory: it's treated like legitimate observations on society.

Any Wiki contributors on here? This needs to be addressed somehow.

[booker.t]

This is important. I noticed this the other day when I wanted to do research on Cultural Marxism (I had seen the wiki article on it before, briefly)...only to find out that it no longer existed.

You know you are living in a terrifying time when SJWs are literally altering and erasing any sort of criticism towards their belief systems and core ideals.

[Peregrine]

Check the article's talk page. Several contributors already calling bullshit.

[infowarrior1]

The way they try to manipulate perception is frightening especially the way they ensue that the only information the average joe gets is their kind of information.

[vinman]

“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”
George Orwell, 1984

[Tengen]

Reminds me of a scene from the movie 'Interstellar', where that "teacher" tries to explain that the moon landings were a hoax engineered to bankrupt the USSR.

[philosophical_recovery]

(01-05-2015 06:34 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  

SJW Marxism Madness

[Sombro]

Tangential:

Collectivism and the presumption of guilt

http://www.redstate.com/2014/12/19/colle...ion-guilt/

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This presumption of guilt is absolutely crucial to collectivism. The Left must teach its subjects to think of themselves as criminals. That’s the only way law-abiding people will endure levels of coercive power that would normally require specific accusations, a fair trial, and the possibility of appeals. Social-justice “crimes” can be prosecuted without any of those things. There is no appeal from the sentence, and no statute of limitations on the crimes, as any left-winger who thinks today’s American citizens need to suffer for the historical offense of slavery will be happy to explain to you. There’s no evidence you can present in your defense, for the Left has read your mind, and knows better than you what demons lurk in its recesses.

This is one reason the Left dislikes the trappings of constitutional law and order. The presumption of innocence is highly inconvenient for social crusades; it’s the antithesis of collective political “justice.” The current demonstrations against police officers include explicit calls to deny them due process (sometimes escalating to simply calling for their summary execution.) The Obama White House is said to be thinking about stripping police officers of grand jury protection, since those procedures have such a disappointing tendency to review evidence and decide charges are not warranted. The mob wants this because they are said to have “lost confidence” in the legal system. In other words, their ideology has revealed who is guilty, so legal proceedings based on overcoming the stout hurdle of presumed innocence are mere trickery to frustrate the righteous crusade.

Campus culture, the fetid breeding ground of collectivist ideology, bubbles with the presumption of guilt. All this stuff about “trigger warnings” and demanding protection from perceived offense, to the extent it’s not just a cynical power play, is based on the notion that targeted speakers are guilty of offenses they might even be aware of. Arguments that run contrary to collectivist ideology are never offered in good faith by honest dissenters – they’re always sinister tricks cooked up by devils out to impose racist hierarchies, sexist patriarchies, and capitalist oligarchies. People marinated in this drivel have been growing up and moving into positions of political and cultural influence for years, bringing this payload of presumed guilt against all who dissent against the noble Left with them. You know the litany of pre-litigated, pre-judged thought crimes by now: you’re just a tool of your corporate masters, you just enjoy watching poor people suffer for the hell of it, you want women to be slaves…

[Paracelsus]

Fuck me, I thought the Allies had already dealt with the last real destructive German philosophy...

[infowarrior1]

(01-06-2015 12:30 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Fuck me, I thought the Allies had already dealt with the last real destructive German philosophy...

Ideology cannot be solely be defeated by physical arms. But also by the combination of freedom of information,Critical Thinking and exposure to reality as much as possible can undo the effects of the indoctrination.

Likewise detach ideology from one's own identity and leave a person room so as to avoid them feeling personally attacked and hence defensive and dogmatic. This requires a particular tact to be achieved.

[lskdfjldsf]

Karl Marx, the Frankfurt Institute, National Socialism, there's no coincidence why they come from the same place.

Germans hate themselves. They can't sit down for longer than 10 seconds without wondering what they're doing wrong. I see it every day here. Intellectual collectivism, the Antifa movement, the anti-Pegida movement now, it's all a very simple projection of self-hatred by the ethnically insecure.

One of the greatest blunders in history was the unification of Germany under Bismarck. The preservation of Prussia, Bavaria, and others as distinct entities would have prevented large-scale wars by Germany, and provided a level of nationalism necessary to function as an immune system against such ideologies. Add two defeats in world wars, and it's no wonder why Germans are scared to walk around in their own skin.

[Paracelsus]

I think it was Ron Rosenbaum in The Shakespeare Wars who noted Germans' seeming affinity for Shakespeare's play Hamlet. Hamlet, you see, dithers. He goes back and forth questioning himself, questioning his murderous impulses. and makes no real decisions until the very end of the play.

[UroboricForms]

Fucking wow.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

No donation for you!

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

Most political articles on Wikipedia are unreliable. These people shit all over everything.

[placer]

It's sad to see the SJWs take over and throw this article in a memory hole. That said, I preserved a pre-SJW version of the article right here on this forum. There's a reason I make a point of preserving information I know cultural Marxists want to destroy for containing inconvenient truths.

[Krusyos]

(01-06-2015 01:33 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

Karl Marx, the Frankfurt Institute, National Socialism, there's no coincidence why they come from the same place.

Germans hate themselves. They can't sit down for longer than 10 seconds without wondering what they're doing wrong. I see it every day here. Intellectual collectivism, the Antifa movement, the anti-Pegida movement now, it's all a very simple projection of self-hatred by the ethnically insecure.

One of the greatest blunders in history was the unification of Germany under Bismarck. The preservation of Prussia, Bavaria, and others as distinct entities would have prevented large-scale wars by Germany, and provided a level of nationalism necessary to function as an immune system against such ideologies. Add two defeats in world wars, and it's no wonder why Germans are scared to walk around in their own skin.

Karl Marx wasn't exactly German, if you know what I mean.

[Tuthmosis]

Can anyone upload a reliable source on "real" Cultural Marxism (besides that blurry VHS-tape video from the 90s that's been posted on the forum bunch of times)? I'd like to read about it some more.

To be frank, the term has always had the jargon-y ring of a tin-foil-hat talking point to me. Seems like another one of those appropriations of terms to create a hysteria--like calling everyone "fascist" or "socialist" as an insult when those words have real meanings. Another example, of course, is "rape culture."

[Fast Eddie]

(01-06-2015 01:33 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

Karl Marx, the Frankfurt Institute, National Socialism, there's no coincidence why they come from the same place.

Germans hate themselves. They can't sit down for longer than 10 seconds without wondering what they're doing wrong. I see it every day here. Intellectual collectivism, the Antifa movement, the anti-Pegida movement now, it's all a very simple projection of self-hatred by the ethnically insecure.

One of the greatest blunders in history was the unification of Germany under Bismarck. The preservation of Prussia, Bavaria, and others as distinct entities would have prevented large-scale wars by Germany, and provided a level of nationalism necessary to function as an immune system against such ideologies. Add two defeats in world wars, and it's no wonder why Germans are scared to walk around in their own skin.

You can blame the Germans for National Socialism but no way can you try and pin Marxism and Frankfurt School on them. That would be like blaming German jews for the Holocaust because German jews are "Germans" after all.

[Plato]

When analysing modern society - I think the Overton Window is a more useful tool than cultural marxism.

The Overton Window is the ideal tool for online campaigns and twitter mobs looking to try and shove the politically correct 'consensus' in the direction they want.

It is a very simple idea.

For instance - there are now debates about the merits of allowing children to undergo sex changes. This is certainly an extreme proposal. But the more people debate it - the more it normalises the idea of adults having sex changes.

Whilst you are busy arguing the pros and cons of a far out idea like that - you are subtly conditioned to accept an idea which no longer seems as extreme in comparison.

[infowarrior1]

(01-06-2015 06:06 PM)Plato Wrote:  

When analysing modern society - I think the Overton Window is a more useful tool than cultural marxism.

The Overton Window is the ideal tool for online campaigns and twitter mobs looking to try and shove the politically correct 'consensus' in the direction they want.

It is a very simple idea.

For instance - there are now debates about the merits of allowing children to undergo sex changes. This is certainly an extreme proposal. But the more people debate it - the more it normalises the idea of adults having sex changes.

Whilst you are busy arguing the pros and cons of a far out idea like that - you are subtly conditioned to accept an idea which no longer seems as extreme in comparison.

Cuthulu swims left-ward always. Which is why its so important to have fixed 1st principles from which one derives worldviews from so that one is not negatively impacted by the constantly shifting overton window.

[Michael P]

(01-05-2015 07:10 PM)booker.t Wrote:  

This is important. I noticed this the other day when I wanted to do research on Cultural Marxism (I had seen the wiki article on it before, briefly)...only to find out that it no longer existed.

You know you are living in a terrifying time when SJWs are literally altering and erasing any sort of criticism towards their belief systems and core ideals.

I've been reaserching for over one year about Antrhropology/Frankfurt school and time and again articles have vanished. Even on righ wing or no-wing sites.

[berserk]

(01-07-2015 09:24 AM)Michael P Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 07:10 PM)booker.t Wrote:  

This is important. I noticed this the other day when I wanted to do research on Cultural Marxism (I had seen the wiki article on it before, briefly)...only to find out that it no longer existed.

You know you are living in a terrifying time when SJWs are literally altering and erasing any sort of criticism towards their belief systems and core ideals.

I've been reaserching for over one year about Antrhropology/Frankfurt school and time and again articles have vanished. Even on righ wing or no-wing sites.

Hits a little too close to home is my guess.

Elites prefer us peasents to squabble over team red vs team blue.

[Surreyman]

I was reading about this stuff in 2010 when I was at Uni. It shocked me then, but the work of the Frankfurt school was not a 'conspiracy', since it didn't involve crimes. It was all quite legal.

Anyway, I spoke briefly about Adorno's 'The Authoritarian Personality' with one of my (nice, but obviously lefty) professors. After some good conversation, I could see he was concerned about what my motives for reading into this kind of thing were.

Cultural Marxism was an incredible piece of subversion from the left, and they're sure as hell not going to let anyone expose it. So few people have heard of it, that's what's so incredible. And yet it's touched all of their lives! Not many normal people want to hear about it either.

My prediction is that with the rising tide of the right in Europe, Cultural Marxism will become well known in the next 5 years.

[Lucky]

(01-06-2015 03:14 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Can anyone upload a reliable source on "real" Cultural Marxism (besides that blurry VHS-tape video from the 90s that's been posted on the forum bunch of times)? I'd like to read about it some more.

To be frank, the term has always had the jargon-y ring of a tin-foil-hat talking point to me. Seems like another one of those appropriations of terms to create a hysteria--like calling everyone "fascist" or "socialist" as an insult when those words have real meanings. Another example, of course, is "rape culture."

I'd also like to see something like this. I've seen the term Cultural Marxism in various posts and it would be informative to know what it actually means.