[Vaun]

Posting this in Newbie, because you know, I am somewhat of a newbie at this type of game.

So I know there are a lot of weightlifters and body builders here. I am a power lifter, and mainly keep to myself in my gym at Equinox. I have been a member of very social bodybuilding/powerlifting gyms, but for now, its easier just to pop in a chain gym due to my schedule.

Lately I have been noticing a lot more fitness models at the gyms. I feel like this sport has gotten bigger and a lot more women are participating. Most of the time I am just following them on Instagram, she is a good example - http://instagram.com/mariza_villarreal

Here is my take on these women from the limited experience I have had with them and higher level CrossFit girls; they are fucking crazy and fuck a lot. I am not saying I have fucked a lot of them, but that if you are in that scene, and show any type of superiority in your lifts, you are in. There is one in particular at my home gym near my apartment. She is an instructor there, and we have been checking each other out for a year. I havent moved it forward because I dont shit where I eat, or vice versa. But I see these girls all over the place now and I wanted to hear any stories of guys who indulge in the strong booty.

[RexImperator]

I've got a situation I could use some advice on... I think I might been "gamed" by a girl, but possibly not in a good way. Let me explain.

I train in a Crossfit gym that also has open gym hours/ 24hr facilities. I don't do Crossfit. I just do my strength training which is mostly compound lifts and a few machines, dumbells, etc. I might be one of the stronger guys there, besides the instructors, but I'm kind of fat, too, from last years' bulking. (I am slowly losing it...)

Anyway, today I was resting between squat sets and struck up a conversation with a girl who was doing some stretching. I may have been aided by the fact that my (unplanned) pre-workout stack consisted of half a beer and a caffeine pill which made me more talkative than I am normally. I thought she was finishing a class but it turned out she is one of the newly hired instructors who I hadn't met yet, though I've made eye contact with her before. FYI I'll give her a 7/WB though I bet the forum would only say 6. I don't really care that stuff much anyway...

Possibly because I was tired between squat sets I let her talk me into doing their Crossfit "assessment" which is a part of their on ramp for new members. I have NO intention of doing Crossfit. However I've been trying to cultivate that "IDGAF" attitude as well. And she seemed fairly cool during our conversation.

Now this gym has been trying to get me to join Crossfit for a while and I suspect this might be something where the instructors are given a commission for bringing in new members. I don't know for sure, but "whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt..." (They have on several occasion said if I joined I could participate in their "Crossfit Games" which actually do look fun.). My suspicion is that she is not into me but is simply using her feminine charms to manipulate/ make money from me.

Given that 1) it's pointless asking for advice about a specific girl. 2) I realize I have put myself in a very "un-alpha" position since the girl/instructor as the trainer will be telling me what to do, 3) I'm trying to work on my "frame" and also not giving shit with girls anymore, 4) there has to be some veneer of professionalism to the interaction, and 5) I'm probably going to suck at the stuff they throw at me since I haven't trained in it...

Anyone have some general suggestions on how I can best flip the script and troll this girl slightly and just have fun with it? I thought that if things possibly worked in my favor, I could invite her to come hang out at a powerlifting club I sometimes visit where they lift "really" heavy things. These crossfit girls think of themselves as "badass" etc. But they actually don't lift much compared to the powerlifter chicks. However, since really getting into the lifting thing as a lifestyle, if I improve enough, I could see where this may possibly be my "niche", if you will.

I honestly don't really care about the outcome and learned my lesson about that the last time. (90% chance girl already has a boyfriend/FB or something, anyway, so who cares. Small tattoo on her upper arm, too...) What I do care about is "maintaining my frame" in this interaction, since I messed that up last time. And, as always, improving my social skills.

I realize this post may be a bit long due the caffeine I took.

[Dr. Howard]

(12-10-2014 09:54 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I've got a situation I could use some advice on... I think I might been "gamed" by a girl, but possibly not in a good way. Let me explain.

I train in a Crossfit gym that also has open gym hours/ 24hr facilities. I don't do Crossfit. I just do my strength training which is mostly compound lifts and a few machines, dumbells, etc. I might be one of the stronger guys there, besides the instructors, but I'm kind of fat, too, from last years' bulking. (I am slowly losing it...)

Anyway, today I was resting between squat sets and struck up a conversation with a girl who was doing some stretching. I may have been aided by the fact that my (unplanned) pre-workout stack consisted of half a beer and a caffeine pill which made me more talkative than I am normally. I thought she was finishing a class but it turned out she is one of the newly hired instructors who I hadn't met yet, though I've made eye contact with her before. FYI I'll give her a 7/WB though I bet the forum would only say 6. I don't really care that stuff much anyway...

Possibly because I was tired between squat sets I let her talk me into doing their Crossfit "assessment" which is a part of their on ramp for new members. I have NO intention of doing Crossfit. However I've been trying to cultivate that "IDGAF" attitude as well. And she seemed fairly cool during our conversation.

Now this gym has been trying to get me to join Crossfit for a while and I suspect this might be something where the instructors are given a commission for bringing in new members. I don't know for sure, but "whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt..." (They have on several occasion said if I joined I could participate in their "Crossfit Games" which actually do look fun.). My suspicion is that she is not into me but is simply using her feminine charms to manipulate/ make money from me.

Given that 1) it's pointless asking for advice about a specific girl. 2) I realize I have put myself in a very "un-alpha" position since the girl/instructor as the trainer will be telling me what to do, 3) I'm trying to work on my "frame" and also not giving shit with girls anymore, 4) there has to be some veneer of professionalism to the interaction, and 5) I'm probably going to suck at the stuff they throw at me since I haven't trained in it...

Anyone have some general suggestions on how I can best flip the script and troll this girl slightly and just have fun with it? I thought that if things possibly worked in my favor, I could invite her to come hang out at a powerlifting club I sometimes visit where they lift "really" heavy things. These crossfit girls think of themselves as "badass" etc. But they actually don't lift much compared to the powerlifter chicks. However, since really getting into the lifting thing as a lifestyle, if I improve enough, I could see where this may possibly be my "niche", if you will.

I honestly don't really care about the outcome and learned my lesson about that the last time. (90% chance girl already has a boyfriend/FB or something, anyway, so who cares. Small tattoo on her upper arm, too...) What I do care about is "maintaining my frame" in this interaction, since I messed that up last time. And, as always, improving my social skills.

I realize this post may be a bit long due the caffeine I took.

don't join, but use the crossfit thing as an interaction to tease her. Like "Hey, I was thinking of joining today but I don't have any duct tape to put all over my shins"

[RexImperator]

I flaked...Haha. Well, not exactly...I showed up early in person but explained that I was too tired from a recent illness to do it. (Which is true.) She tried to pin me down on another specific date but I left it open.

She was also way cuter than I remembered...I guess because today she was done up with makeup, etc.

Definitely a trap. That is what my gut tells me. Although, thinking about it also made me examine the self-limiting beliefs I have of why a girl like that would not possibly be attracted to me.

[redpillage]

(12-11-2014 03:56 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I flaked...Haha. Well, not exactly...I showed up early in person but explained that I was too tired from a recent illness to do it. (Which is true.) She tried to pin me down on another specific date but I left it open.

She was also way cuter than I remembered...I guess because today she was done up with makeup, etc.

Definitely a trap. That is what my gut tells me. Although, thinking about it also made me examine the self-limiting beliefs I have of why a girl like that would not possibly be attracted to me.

Well played and your gut was spot on - I assure you. I've stepped into that particular honey trap as a younger buck and young hot tight bodied trainers have no compunction to use their looks as bait for clientele. Which is fine as life isn't fair but the problem is that most of those girls don't know jack about training or nutrition. So I would never have a 130 pound girl train me - if nothing else I'd run circles around her.

However, be this as it may. The underlying problem here is that you got suckered into her steering the conversation into baiting you as a client. You should have been more open about it - perhaps even a tad obnoxious. Give her a wink and a smile and say: 'No darling, I'm really not interested in cross-fit - I got my own routine. But if you want we can grab some drinks next Tuesday.' Leave it at that and see what happens. Probably nothing but that's part of the numbers game.

FWIW - I don't understand why any man would have a problem being straight forward about their intentions. Well, of course that's not true ;-) We all know why men hide their intentions, because they feel guilty about coming across as creepy, especially in the current environment. Thing is buddy - those girls they know what you want the second you lay eyes on them. They are not stupid and they are the ones leveraging the conversation in their favor. Quite shamelessly most of the times.

Just be yourself - you like the girl just like 100 other guys before you that day. Somehow getting sucked into her spin/cross-fit/yoga class won't get you any closer to her juicy pussy than the rest of those suckers. Separate yourself from the rest by working on yourself, physically and mentally. Don't bust your ass and waste valuable time of your youth to slay a handful of gym bitches. You should be working on your first Million instead - bank coin - build your little empire. Read me?

Redpillage out.

[RexImperator]

(12-12-2014 07:15 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

So I would never have a 130 pound girl train me - if nothing else I'd run circles around her.

However, be this as it may. The underlying problem here is that you got suckered into her steering the conversation into baiting you as a client. You should have been more open about it - perhaps even a tad obnoxious. Give her a wink and a smile and say: 'No darling, I'm really not interested in cross-fit - I got my own routine. But if you want we can grab some drinks next Tuesday.' Leave it at that and see what happens. Probably nothing but that's part of the numbers game.

...Thing is buddy - those girls they know what you want the second you lay eyes on them. They are not stupid and they are the ones leveraging the conversation in their favor. Quite shamelessly most of the times.

... Somehow getting sucked into her spin/cross-fit/yoga class won't get you any closer to her juicy pussy than the rest of those suckers. Separate yourself from the rest by working on yourself, physically and mentally.

Yeah I agree 100%. She caught me with my guard down honestly, when I was between sets of heavy squats. I tend to be very single-minded and focused during my workouts, and switching from that over to "game aware state" is hard for me.

Studying game stuff has made me realize that I need to trust my gut instincts more often, and also I've become more aware of how I'm being manipulated at times.

Whenever I've spoken with her, I have given her very strong eye contact, which she has returned, but I don't sense it as an IOI. No, something seems a bit fake/manipulative about it to me. If it were a real IOI she would look down/away more often.

It is interesting to realize how it can be harder to say "no" to a cute girl than you think it would be, when she stares into your eyes like that.

I was thinking of saying, "Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't really see myself being trained by some cute little girl." But maybe that's too harsh?

[Saweeep]

(12-13-2014 01:55 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 07:15 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

So I would never have a 130 pound girl train me - if nothing else I'd run circles around her.

However, be this as it may. The underlying problem here is that you got suckered into her steering the conversation into baiting you as a client. You should have been more open about it - perhaps even a tad obnoxious. Give her a wink and a smile and say: 'No darling, I'm really not interested in cross-fit - I got my own routine. But if you want we can grab some drinks next Tuesday.' Leave it at that and see what happens. Probably nothing but that's part of the numbers game.

...Thing is buddy - those girls they know what you want the second you lay eyes on them. They are not stupid and they are the ones leveraging the conversation in their favor. Quite shamelessly most of the times.

... Somehow getting sucked into her spin/cross-fit/yoga class won't get you any closer to her juicy pussy than the rest of those suckers. Separate yourself from the rest by working on yourself, physically and mentally.

Yeah I agree 100%. She caught me with my guard down honestly, when I was between sets of heavy squats. I tend to be very single-minded and focused during my workouts, and switching from that over to "game aware state" is hard for me.

Studying game stuff has made me realize that I need to trust my gut instincts more often, and also I've become more aware of how I'm being manipulated at times.

Whenever I've spoken with her, I have given her very strong eye contact, which she has returned, but I don't sense it as an IOI. No, something seems a bit fake/manipulative about it to me. If it were a real IOI she would look down/away more often.

It is interesting to realize how it can be harder to say "no" to a cute girl than you think it would be, when she stares into your eyes like that.

I was thinking of saying, "Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't really see myself being trained by some cute little girl." But maybe that's too harsh?

People laugh at me when I tell them this but I refuse to ever deal with an attractive woman when buying anything significant at all.

I don't trust myself to be 100% sound in my judgement in these situations.