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(12-16-2014 12:53 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

No sweat there Celt. Some of the best players are born out of oneitis.

That said trying to dig any deeper into this situation will be like digging for your grave. Analysis paralysis reinforces needinees and neediness belies disaster. You wont be able to think clearly because you are already emotionally invested in the situation, despite the tactically sound advice you are receiving here.

It's your feelings for her that are killing your game

For experience's sake you could just go ahead and see this to the end which can be messy, but you will get some good experience from which you will become much wiser. Else go out approaching and try to get some more dates.

You should get some distance between you and her when this is done by the way. Having a girl that makes your hamster spin close by is horrible for self-development.

I couldn't believe that much RedPill/Game knowledge could be allowed past the Hollywood PC sensors of today. That's probably the first time I've seen a Hollywood movie demonstrate legitimate game theory as opposed to the bullshit most Hollywood flicks make game out to be. Nice find

HSLD

[Celt]

Thanks. I appreciate the advice everyone. Yeah 456, that has probably been the hardest thing about learning game for me: I do have a massive conscience. It's hard for me to do anything if I think I'm being the badguy. But you're absolutely right, I just need to readjust my view.

(12-16-2014 12:24 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 10:08 AM)Celt Wrote:  

It's good. I came here exactly for this kind of advice. I still have weeks before she comes up here. Any chance I can bring this back?

She is still coming to see you for sure?

Give us some info

The last thing she said to me on the subject was: "I want to come round but I know what will happen" (whatever that means in plain language). One thing I should mention is that this girl and I have been through a lot together. I realise that what a guy does for a girl doesn't mean much to them in the end, but I would say that as much as a girl can be a friend to a guy, she genuinely is. For this reason, I think if I play my cards right she will still come, and at the current time, she is still set to. I told her we'd cook something together. Though we have discussed quite thoroughly the sex that could happen too. So I know she's clear on that issue.

Yeah Dalaran1991 (Warcraft 2 reference?), whatever happens I'm going to see this through to the end. There's no reason not to. I've got nothing to lose at this point. If I succeed I bang her and we're still friends. If I fail then I don't and we're still friends. I never expected to have a chance with her until a few days ago, so I'm not planning to drop her whatever way this goes.

It might also be worth mentioning that I really appreciated the advice that this forum and Return of Kings had to give to introverts, because I am one. So I focussed on day game which I've made a lot of progress with to the point where I'm in a position to turn offers down (it was not so just a few months ago). It's just that this situation is so different for me and complicated and I don't know how to read her signals.

[General Mayhem]

(12-16-2014 02:42 PM)Celt Wrote:  

The last thing she said to me on the subject was: "I want to come round but I know what will happen" (whatever that means in plain language). One thing I should mention is that this girl and I have been through a lot together. I realise that what a guy does for a girl doesn't mean much to them in the end, but I would say that as much as a girl can be a friend to a guy, she genuinely is. For this reason, I think if I play my cards right she will still come, and at the current time, she is still set to. I told her we'd cook something together. Though we have discussed quite thoroughly the sex that could happen too. So I know she's clear on that issue.

Don't talk about the sex with her again.

Your feelings for this chick are definitely strong. I'm not going to try to sway you. There's a million posts on this forum that will tell you that if you want to read them.

Personally, I would try to salvage it. Life's short but it's not that short. If you really have some kind of friends dynamic I would just roll with it. Have her come see you, play it cool and if you can keep your emotions in check she just might go home telling her friends that, "It just kinda happened."

It sounds like you could use the experience however it turns out.

[Celt]

Sorry guys, forgot about this topic.

Well the date has passed and it will come as no surprise to anyone that it didn't happen. She involved herself in a conversation I was having on Facebook and I was kind of dismissive of her and she unfriended me. I PMed her to ask why and she said she was sorry, she just got temporarily annoyed. But by that point I was already sick of her shit and told her so and to never contact me again. So she blocked me and never did. So yeah, I actually killed it on purpose, and I no longer care. Probably wouldn't have happened anyway and I'm interested in someone else now.

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(01-09-2015 09:01 PM)Celt Wrote:  

Sorry guys, forgot about this topic.

Well the date has passed and it will come as no surprise to anyone that it didn't happen. She involved herself in a conversation I was having on Facebook and I was kind of dismissive of her and she unfriended me. I PMed her to ask why and she said she was sorry, she just got temporarily annoyed. But by that point I was already sick of her shit and told her so and to never contact me again. So she blocked me and never did. So yeah, I actually killed it on purpose, and I no longer care. Probably wouldn't have happened anyway and I'm interested in someone else now.

Good.

Girls who toy with you like that aren't worth your time.

Onto the next one, player.

HSLD

[Sonoma]

I can't believe I read through all this to find out you fucked it up

Rule #1- don't talk to girls about feelings, reasoning or what motivates them to do anything. Ever. If it's a topic that doesn't enhance your value and your chance of banging her then don't discuss it.