After reading this thread I wanted to offer a different perspective on Miami. After getting so much value from this forum I thought I would contribute something by offering a differing opinion on a city that I know very well.
First a disclaimer I was born and raised in Miami and I think the world of it. Obviously my perspective is biased but I think it can add value to people are thinking of moving here.
After living here for almost 30 years I have seen Miami go through vast changes, especially in the last 5 years. Miami has always had a reputation as the playground for the rich and famous. Since the 1940s with the rat pack in the Fountainbleau through the 50s and 60s, Miami has always been a vacation destination.
Through the 70s Miami went through a dark period of crime, huge immigration waves, and general malaise. When the show Miami Vice came out in the 80s it change the Miami forever. It made Miami cool again and with the reemergence of South Beach in 90s it made Miami a worldwide party destination. It's still very good party destination but today Miami has a lot more to offer than nightlife.
The Entrepreneur Scene
Over the last 5 years the start up scene and particularly the tech scene has exploded. With the help of the Knight Foundation millions of dollars of poured into the local economy. A good summary is here
According to this study Miami is the #1 ranked in the country in terms of entrepreneurial activity on a per capita basis. I used to think of Miami as a cultural wasteland full of ignorant people who only cared about partying and showing off their tats, but my perception has changed. Every week I meet someone interesting who has shit going for them. A lot of smart ambitious people have made Miami their home the last few years.
Every time I meet someone who recently moved and they don't like the people in Miami it means they haven't been meeting the right kind of people or just haven't anybody yet. Miami is 65% foreign born but unlike other US cities Miami truly gets the best and smartest immigrants. All the South Americans that move here are usually pretty well off. We also get a lot of hot Eastern European Immigrants![[Image: smile.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/smile.gif)
As others have pointed knowing Spanish is important in this city for business and for the women. But I believe you can still make it here even if you don't know Spanish. In fact I've met a few SF entrepreneurs (who don't know Spanish) who have made Miami their home. If you can hustle and work hard you can make it in this city.
The Women
This subject has been beaten to death on this forum and Jariel gives a pretty decent breakdown. I wanted to add that Miami has girls from all over the world and so trying to give a wide sweeping conclusion on this subject doesn't make any sense. These girls have different cultures with different value systems than a lot of girls that grew up in Miami and the States. I can't tell you how many Russian or Brazilian girls I have met in South beach that just recently moved here. I wouldn't consider them Miami girls but a lot of the false conclusions come from gaming these girls. And the tourists from NY or some other US city? South beach is full of them. Eventually, as Roosh has pointed out, before women take the characteristics of their environment. Unfortunately, these girls usually get corrupted by the Miami scene.
It seems the forum's conclusion is that Miami is a very difficult place to game and I wouldn't disagree but this is viewed in the wrong perspective in my opinion. Miami takes a lot of work but if you put in the work eventually, it will bear fruit. I read Roosh's Moscow trip report and he came to the conclusion that if you settle long term it can lead to a very positive outcome. Miami should be viewed in the same way. It's an international city with an insane amount of talent with Foreign women that this forum loves. I've read some posts here that say that you need money, looks, and connections to even have chance here and while those things are very important here those are ridiculous conclusions. I know several men who don't have any of those things and do really well here. Granted some of them did grew up here and they know how Miami works.
I know one guy from Boston who's not particularly good looking but is in good shape, has laid close to 50 women this year. He's a approach machine on South Beach and given his job (male stripper) is insanely confident. He doesn't have a lot of money or a lot of connections and most of his approaches are during the day.
I know Miami women can be superficial but to make general conclusions that all the women here are superficial is idiotic. As Roosh pointed out in his most recent book when he talks to men about women and they conclude women are superficial it means they don't know what they are talking about.
In Conclusion
If you're a young guy who has a lot of drive and ambition you can make it here. It's a great place to start a business, to meet a lot of cool international people and plenty of hot foreign women.
By the far the biggest positive of living in South Beach the last 4 years is the sense of community that I have. I know many of my neighbors and when I walk around Ocean Drive I can see a lot of people I know. Amazingly I get the small town feel here even though there are a shit ton of tourists. I actually enjoy meeting them.
If you guys have any questions or want of further breakdown of spots to hit up let me know!
First a disclaimer I was born and raised in Miami and I think the world of it. Obviously my perspective is biased but I think it can add value to people are thinking of moving here.
After living here for almost 30 years I have seen Miami go through vast changes, especially in the last 5 years. Miami has always had a reputation as the playground for the rich and famous. Since the 1940s with the rat pack in the Fountainbleau through the 50s and 60s, Miami has always been a vacation destination.
Through the 70s Miami went through a dark period of crime, huge immigration waves, and general malaise. When the show Miami Vice came out in the 80s it change the Miami forever. It made Miami cool again and with the reemergence of South Beach in 90s it made Miami a worldwide party destination. It's still very good party destination but today Miami has a lot more to offer than nightlife.
The Entrepreneur Scene
Over the last 5 years the start up scene and particularly the tech scene has exploded. With the help of the Knight Foundation millions of dollars of poured into the local economy. A good summary is here
According to this study Miami is the #1 ranked in the country in terms of entrepreneurial activity on a per capita basis. I used to think of Miami as a cultural wasteland full of ignorant people who only cared about partying and showing off their tats, but my perception has changed. Every week I meet someone interesting who has shit going for them. A lot of smart ambitious people have made Miami their home the last few years.
Every time I meet someone who recently moved and they don't like the people in Miami it means they haven't been meeting the right kind of people or just haven't anybody yet. Miami is 65% foreign born but unlike other US cities Miami truly gets the best and smartest immigrants. All the South Americans that move here are usually pretty well off. We also get a lot of hot Eastern European Immigrants
![[Image: smile.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/smile.gif)
As others have pointed knowing Spanish is important in this city for business and for the women. But I believe you can still make it here even if you don't know Spanish. In fact I've met a few SF entrepreneurs (who don't know Spanish) who have made Miami their home. If you can hustle and work hard you can make it in this city.
The Women
This subject has been beaten to death on this forum and Jariel gives a pretty decent breakdown. I wanted to add that Miami has girls from all over the world and so trying to give a wide sweeping conclusion on this subject doesn't make any sense. These girls have different cultures with different value systems than a lot of girls that grew up in Miami and the States. I can't tell you how many Russian or Brazilian girls I have met in South beach that just recently moved here. I wouldn't consider them Miami girls but a lot of the false conclusions come from gaming these girls. And the tourists from NY or some other US city? South beach is full of them. Eventually, as Roosh has pointed out, before women take the characteristics of their environment. Unfortunately, these girls usually get corrupted by the Miami scene.
It seems the forum's conclusion is that Miami is a very difficult place to game and I wouldn't disagree but this is viewed in the wrong perspective in my opinion. Miami takes a lot of work but if you put in the work eventually, it will bear fruit. I read Roosh's Moscow trip report and he came to the conclusion that if you settle long term it can lead to a very positive outcome. Miami should be viewed in the same way. It's an international city with an insane amount of talent with Foreign women that this forum loves. I've read some posts here that say that you need money, looks, and connections to even have chance here and while those things are very important here those are ridiculous conclusions. I know several men who don't have any of those things and do really well here. Granted some of them did grew up here and they know how Miami works.
I know one guy from Boston who's not particularly good looking but is in good shape, has laid close to 50 women this year. He's a approach machine on South Beach and given his job (male stripper) is insanely confident. He doesn't have a lot of money or a lot of connections and most of his approaches are during the day.
I know Miami women can be superficial but to make general conclusions that all the women here are superficial is idiotic. As Roosh pointed out in his most recent book when he talks to men about women and they conclude women are superficial it means they don't know what they are talking about.
In Conclusion
If you're a young guy who has a lot of drive and ambition you can make it here. It's a great place to start a business, to meet a lot of cool international people and plenty of hot foreign women.
By the far the biggest positive of living in South Beach the last 4 years is the sense of community that I have. I know many of my neighbors and when I walk around Ocean Drive I can see a lot of people I know. Amazingly I get the small town feel here even though there are a shit ton of tourists. I actually enjoy meeting them.
If you guys have any questions or want of further breakdown of spots to hit up let me know!