[CJ]

You're at the bar, and your semi-dream scenario develops, there's a ratio of 5-1, girls:guys, you're literally looking at 20+ girls on the dance floor and just a couple dudes (who all fit one particular cat, so they can't possibly take every chick). What is your move?

I mean, I was literally confused and overwhelmed by all the prospects on a Monday. I got cocky, thought I had it made, sipped another beer (or two) and waited to make my move... jumped in there and it was miss, miss, miss and not in a good way. I got some beer pong going, but nothing was clicking. Then I saw a girl I had banged before show up on the dance floor, looking right at me. Had she poisoned my well? Or had my initial failures turned every other girl against me? Either way, I suddenly felt like I was a beta fish again, unable to approach anyone, because every girl had a story/excuse to brush me off. Weird night, although I did not reach 10 approaches, I was just at a bizarre Monday night loss.

How can I prevent this from happening again?

[theIVth]

I think even tho some talk about not worrying about what others around you think when you approach girls, I do have a feeling that girls that may have been peeping you in a spot do in fact check you out when you approach other girls throughout a club. That is something to at least be mindful of.

Its cool to be Rambo and not give a damn in some respects, but at the same time you may be shooting yourself in the foot when you get too conspicuous with your approaches. You could really be defeating your whole purpose.

They talk in this forum occasionally about making so many approaches in one venue, but in reality venues are usually not that big and you may quickly turn into THE guy to blow off once girls start to notice that your just approaching everything that's pretty.

[Chad Daring]

I remember reading something Roosh wrote about finding a hotspot and waiting for the girls to come to you (usually park it at the bar so they can come up to your area to get drinks) That way you can make an approach and if it bombs THEY walk away from you, so to an onlooker it looks like nothing really happened.

[Tuthmosis]

(04-19-2011 03:36 AM)CJ Wrote:  

How can I prevent this from happening again?

I can't speak to your specific situation, but I do think that not knowing how to handle too many good prospects in a single place can be a problem. I've often been in situations where I get paralyzed by having too many choices: do I go with the cutest chick I see? Do I go with the "type" that I usually succeed with? Do I go with the one that seemed to be eye-fucking me a minute ago? Do I go with the one that seems pre-isolated for me in the corner? It's nice when that's all the same girl, but that's rarely the case.

This is actually a current sticking point for me, so I'd be interested in what others have to say about this. The way I handle it now is by having a mental hierarchy of which type of girl I approach first, second, and so forth, and just resolve that I'm not going to always get it right.

I don't like waiting in one place for girls to approach me, but I make it a point to not move around too much, and to make the movements I do make as stealthy as possible (without seeming creepy, of course).

Thoughts?

[Screwston]

(04-19-2011 03:41 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

I remember reading something Roosh wrote about finding a hotspot and waiting for the girls to come to you (usually park it at the bar so they can come up to your area to get drinks) That way you can make an approach and if it bombs THEY walk away from you, so to an onlooker it looks like nothing really happened.

This what I try to do. Find a spot with good traffic and post up

[kerouac]

With a ratio like that maybe it was a lesbian bar?

[CJ]

(04-19-2011 03:41 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

I remember reading something Roosh wrote about finding a hotspot and waiting for the girls to come to you.

Unfortunately, this wasn't an option, my favored tables at this bar were already full. But that is sound advice, when possible.

(04-19-2011 08:00 AM)theIVth Wrote:  

They talk in this forum occasionally about making so many approaches in one venue, but in reality venues are usually not that big and you may quickly turn into THE guy to blow off once girls start to notice that your just approaching everything that's pretty.

I agree 100%. This particular bar is on the small side, and most of the girls were in groups, so blow it with one in the group, and you can forget the rest. Happens.

(04-19-2011 03:48 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

The way I handle it now is by having a mental hierarchy of which type of girl I approach first

I think I need to work on making my own hierarchy. That way I've at least got some direction, instead of running around like a rooster with its dick just flopping about hoping it lands in a chicken.

(04-20-2011 01:02 AM)kerouac Wrote:  

With a ratio like that maybe it was a lesbian bar?

Ha! No, I've pulled from this bar before a couple times, so I'm thinking that it may be time to try a new bar and give the clientele some time to diversify.