[Libertas]

This topic really merits its own thread, since the implications go beyond GamerGate.

https://archive.today/JOwZm

Quote:

On Thursday, the nonprofit organization Women, Action, and the Media—abbreviated WAM! or WAM—announced a new initiative with Twitter, to try to make the service safer for women. That partnership has been widely greeted as a step forward, a sign Twitter is finally taking harassment seriously. To my eye, though, it just seems like another stopgap—and further evidence Twitter isn't yet willing to invest to protect its most vulnerable users.

WAM, in effect, got super powers within Twitter’s moderating environment. After submitting an abuse report to Twitter, users can now also submit one to WAM. WAM will make sure the users’s claims are credible, then “escalate” the report in Twitter’s system, flagging it for immediate handling by the company’s moderators.

Those are some choice paragraphs. Not that this surprises me, but the thought of a feminist organization being appointed as censors over such a huge communication network is absolutely terrifying.

[Basil Ransom]

You failed to read properly so now you're spouting lies. The feminist group doesn't have the power to censor anything, just to flag things to real Twitter mods.

[Libertas]

Yes, you're right. I apologize.

Censors or not (the name of the thread should be changed for my gross error), I still find this trend somewhat troubling. Having a group with a clear political agenda acting as a mediator of sorts regarding acceptable speech over communications hubs like twitter is never a good recipe.

[JohnKreese]

Seems about right

[Days of Broken Arrows]

A few points:

1). From the story: "To my eye, though, it just seems like another stopgap—and further evidence Twitter isn't yet willing to invest to protect its most vulnerable users." Really? Well, if you think women are so vulnerable that they can't deal with harsh words, then don't turn around and tell us they can be our police officers or army captains. And stop depicting them as "strong women" in every film and TV show.

2). I am once again going to draw a comparison between Catholic nuns and feminists. This reminds me of stories my mother told me about nuns in the 1950s telling families what movies they could and couldn't see and how long you could chat up a girl at a dance (or how close you could dance). Now feminists want to monitor what can be said to women.

3). The way to handle this is to patronize women on Twitter by taunting them with things like: "Big news item, but no women allowed to hear because WAM."

4). Say what you will about George Michael's weirdness in the 1990s, but back in the '80s, his group Wham! was actually pretty great for what they were: pure, glitzy, melodic, danceable pop. Let's not mar their legacy by associating them with this group of witches.

Conclusion: When you find yourself defending Wham!, of all things, on a men's forum because of a bunch of today's women, you know society is truly moving in the wrong direction.

[Foolsgo1d]

(11-07-2014 10:01 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

You failed to read properly so now you're spouting lies. The feminist group doesn't have the power to censor anything, just to flag things to real Twitter mods.

To suddenly get an opportunity like this is gold for them. They won't stop until they have full mod access.

Accounts like Roosh' and Tuth will get deleted. Anything to do with GG, anti-feminism and Game will be monitored and yelled about until Twitter says "fuck it, lets just give them the power to ban just to shut them up".

Twitter is run by tech geeks remember, just like 4chan and other places which have succumbed to SJW influence.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

The executive director of WAM is Jaclyn Friedman. One of her biggest "accomplishments" was pressuring Facebook into enforcing its terms of service so when women complain, pages get taken down and accounts get temporary bans.

When the Return of Kings Facebook page is temporarily not allowed to update, she is the reason why. Her actions affect us directly.

Now ask yourself: is that page really saying things that are "threats" to women? Or is the page getting suspended because of feminists don't like what it says and want to censor it? Clearly, it's the latter.

There are no threats. No one is being made to feel "unsafe." What there are are a bunch of petty complaints that are encroaching on men's freedom of speech. Was Return of Kings ever offensive? Sure. But so is everything from "Sex and the City" to Kanye's music to old James Bond films and Rolling Stones records. You don't see them shutting down those things, do you?

She is a censor, but thanks to the Orwellian newspeak of her group, she's instead called someone trying to make things "safer" for women.

(Again I'll repeat: people like this want to make things "safer" for the very women they then turn around and tell us should be our cops, firefighters, and lieutenants. Think about that.)

On top of that, Friedman has her own Web cast series called "Fucking While Feminist." In her world, that's not supposed to be offensive, but Return of Kings articles are.

This is typical of feminists like her: free speech for me, but not for thee.

Her group has been devised for the specific purpose of shutting down opposing viewpoints. I would urge any Return of Kings writers to consider doing a major takedown on Friedman. Also, we need to give props to A Voice for Men, for calling her out for being the anti-male bigot she really is.

[Glaucon]

I am seriously thinking creating a man only social website. It would be awesome. No more pictures of food, cats, and selfies. No attention whoring. Pics of cars, sexy girls, guns and other things.

But I do not think these fanatic hags can be kept out forever.

[Kickb]

I wonder if they will flag Dan Bilzerian's page.

He put up a picture a couple days ago saying "Ugly girls make my eyes hurt" and scribbled out a chicks face



And he used to have a "Daily Pussy" post where he would put up direct nessage pictures from of nude girls who wrote his name on their body /vag

Harrasment!

[lurker]

He missed a couple more.

[kaotic]

(11-07-2014 10:01 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

You failed to read properly so now you're spouting lies. The feminist group doesn't have the power to censor anything, just to flag things to real Twitter mods.

Give a woman an inch, they'll take a mile.

They're licking their lips with this, this is important to know and understand.

They wont stop until they have feminazi mod wing. The twitter handlers are SJW white knights, they'll give into the full wants of fems.

You don't think this is a real possibility ?

Just doing this is in direct reaction to GG.

[Brodiaga]

With "social" networks, it's simple. Feminists and SJW take control? Delete your account. Fuck'em, let them talk to each other.

It gets more difficult, unfortunately, when they control entire countries and their legal systems.

[runsonmagic]

What would it take to infiltrate these groups?

The strategy of conservatives and Christians has been to create a separate version of popular culture. "Christian rock." "Christian movies." And to attack the mainstream - Jack Thompson. We've seen how well that worked.

The social justice method has been to infiltrate. To say: your game/movie/website is misogynistic/racist/prolematic and only we can save you from your sins. It's the same message as religious Puritans, but framed secularly, with the aim to convert rather than condemn. Once they take over they have control of the largely neutral user base, and are able to manipulate social norms.

Imagine if a similar group was able to get inside Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc. and push our values the way SJW push theirs. The tech world is already 90% men who need our message. What would it take to do this? It's a longer term strategy, but ultimately a more effective one. Lets learn from our enemies.

[Sonsowey]

They have been at this for years to the point that any organization dedicated to Mens issues is seen as "problematic".

How would you build an organization tht would be accepted?

[Blackhawk]

(11-09-2014 09:19 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

With "social" networks, it's simple. Feminists and SJW take control? Delete your account. Fuck'em, let them talk to each other.

That's their nirvana! A carefully censored micro-bubble where no outside thinking is allowed and all contrary thought is immediately banned, until that media channel is reduced to a giant echo chamber of their talking points.

And then sales nosedive, ratings fall, people unsubscribe, and they can't figure out why.

[runsonmagic]

(11-08-2014 10:07 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

I am seriously thinking creating a man only social website.

Do it.

What would it take to make this happen?

[Rawmeo]

The more we talk about them, the more power they get. Jacklyn Friedman belongs to the Would you Hit It? thread.

Telling a girl she is pretty is not harassment. Harassment is when you don't give up on a girl when she says no. And I doubt anybody really harassed the leader of this group, because she is a 5.5 IMO. I think society is clearly moving in the wrong direction if those girls have moderation powers (or some kind of role to play).

[kbell]

5.5?

Vodka goggles on! Her jealously of thin women is probably what led her to become an angry feminist. Now she must control what other people say. If she could it would be what they think.

[kaotic]

(11-10-2014 07:52 AM)kbell Wrote:  





5.5?

Vodka goggles on! Her jealously of thin women is probably what led her to become an angry feminist. Now she must control what other people say. If she could it would be what they think.

4.5 if was skinny might be a 6, MIGHT.

Her bitch face says it all, "I'm angry at the world" "Why don't men hit on ME !?" "Daddy didn't love me" "I'm going to prove everyone wrong"

$5 says she's got weight and mental issues.

[AnonymousBosch]

(11-10-2014 02:19 AM)alex3948 Wrote:  

The more we talk about them, the more power they get. Jacklyn Friedman belongs to the Would you Hit It? thread.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(11-10-2014 02:19 AM)alex3948 Wrote:  

The more we talk about them, the more power they get. Jacklyn Friedman belongs to the Would you Hit It? thread.

Telling a girl she is pretty is not harassment. Harassment is when you don't give up on a girl when she says no. And I doubt anybody really harassed the leader of this group, because she is a 5.5 IMO. I think society is clearly moving in the wrong direction if those girls have moderation powers (or some kind of role to play).

She might have belonged in the Would You Hit It thread had it existed a decade ago. But she was born in '71 and is 43. Most of the pics you see online were taken well over a decade ago or are "glamour shots"-like promo pics.

The most recent photos are on this very thread. This is not someone who has aged well, like Wonder Woman (Lynda Carter), for example. So if she belongs anywhere it's in our infamous Boner-Killer thread.

Simply reading her words is anti-Viagra for me -- looking at her is icing on the cake...which she probably ate too much of, judging by the recent pics.

[runsonmagic]

This is their report form:

https://womenactionmedia.wufoo.com/forms...ting-tool/

I can think of some creative uses of this. You know what to do.