[kaotic]

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Comedian Hannibal Buress performed a stand-up routine in Philadelphia last Thursday, Oct. 16, during which he referred to beloved comic Bill Cosby as a "rapist."

In his performance first posted online by Philadelphia Magazine, Buress claimed that Cosby — best known for his role as Dr. Heathcliff Huxtable and three decades of classic stand-up — was a hypocrite for doling out family-oriented advice when numerous allegations of rape have been made against The Cosby Show star since the 1970s.

"Thirteen?" Buress said about the number of women who have come forward alleging sexual abuse by the star. "And it’s even worse because Bill Cosby has the f---ing smuggest old black man public persona that I hate. Pull your pants up, black people. I was on TV in the '80s. I can talk down to you because I had a successful sitcom."

Buress, 31, then railed against the star directly. "Yeah, but you raped women, Bill Cosby," he claimed. "So, brings you down a couple notches. I don’t curse on stage. Well, yeah, you’re a rapist, so, I’ll take you sayin’ lots of motherf---ers on Bill Cosby: Himself if you weren’t a rapist. …I want to just at least make it weird for you to watch Cosby Show reruns. …I’ve done this bit on stage, and people don’t believe. People think I’m making it up. …That s--- is upsetting. If you didn’t know about it, trust me."

   

Also Hannibal follows up on his comments on the Howard Stern show:
On Tuesday, he went on 'The Howard Stern Show' to talk about the backlash.

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"It was unexpected," Buress said of the attention that the set received. "It wasn't my intention to make it part of a big discussion. It was just something I was doing at that venue, right there."

Buress said that this is the first time in his 13-year comedy career that his material has generated major controversy. In fact, he noted that he had been performing the bit about Cosby "off and on for six months" before it went viral.

The 'Broad City' star said that he created the bit after reading about the sexual assault allegations against the legendary comedian. Cosby has been accused of raping at least 13 women in assaults that took place as far back as the 1970s. Cosby never responded to the charges and has not been charged with any wrongdoing.

"It's just information that's out there," Buress said. ""I said it and I gotta stand on it, but it is an interesting situation."

[Roosh]

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Cosby never responded to the charges and has not been charged with any wrongdoing.

Sue him.

[TonySandos]

SJW comedian who plays a lackey male role on a snarky, unfunny, feminist comedy show. Nothing surprising here. Dark times when even comedy isn't safe from buzz-killing finger wagging

[Parlay44]

It's stand up comedy. It won't hold up as slander.

[TheWastelander]

'It was just a joke!' 'I'm just a comedian!'

Classic refuges of cowardly celebrities (like Jon Stewart) who want to lob bombs but avoid serious scrutiny.

[kaotic]

(10-21-2014 02:21 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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Cosby never responded to the charges and has not been charged with any wrongdoing.

Sue him.

Exactly, not to mention Cosby only apologized to his wife.

[Slim Shady]

Stand up ain't stand up anymore.

First Aziz, then this faggot.

What a bunch of spineless tossers. Worse than attention whoring women.

[heavy]

It's stand-up comedy. I'd think this guy just isn't that funny since he has to use cheap humor...easy laughs. Like dirty jokes or swearing for laughs.

Cosby never used cheap humor.

Seinfeld followed in his footsteps, never uses cheap humor.

[Sonsowey]

(10-21-2014 03:41 PM)heavy Wrote:  

It's stand-up comedy. I'd think this guy just isn't that funny since he has to use cheap humor...easy laughs. Like dirty jokes or swearing for laughs.

Cosby never used cheap humor.

Seinfeld followed in his footsteps, never uses cheap humor.

Even Seinfeld is too real for some people:

During an interview on BuzzFeed Brews, host Peter Lauria asked Seinfeld about the predominance of white male guests on the show, having noted the Internet commentary about it and been asked by his Twitter followers to pose the question. Seinfeld responded first with a softball, "People think it's the census or something, that it's got to represent the actual pie chart of America - who cares? Funny is the world that I live in." Then he went further, saying, "I have no interest in gender or race or anything like that," and that he feels the positions of those who have watched his show and commented on the race and gender breakdown of his guests are "anti comedy" and "more about PC nonsense than 'Are you making us laugh or not?'"

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/10/seinf...ng-coffee/

The chutzpah...

[DJ-Matt]

Who the fuck is this guy? My comedy station has tons of the Cos' material on rotation, but this guy is completely off my radar, and always will be after this...

[Praetor Lupus]

(10-21-2014 02:25 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

It's stand up comedy. It won't hold up as slander.

I can't imagine anyone laughing at that. It sounds like a deluded rant more than anything else.

[vinman]

This is why I hate soft comics. My favorites are guys like Patrice O'Neil, Bill Burr, Corey Holcombe, etc. I believe it was Patrice that said "in comedy somebody has got to get hurt". I've looked up some of his interviews and this dude is the dark skinned equivalent to the comic Sinbad. If SJW's like you it's because you're a cunt.

[kmhour]

(10-21-2014 02:18 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

"It was unexpected," Buress said of the attention that the set received. "It wasn't my intention to make it part of a big discussion. It was just something I was doing at that venue, right there."

[kbell]

Never heard of Hannibal Buress. What's his relation to Silence of the Lambs?

[Bacchus]

Here's footage from the set:

Sadly, I think this will increase his audience.

[Sourcecode]

I like the dude.. he has some funny skits.
I wouldn't call him a social justice person..he just isn't gonna hold back on a joke with his dry delivery.

it's not like this dude hasn't made jokes about domestic violence and such before.

all of his stuff is said in a stream of conscious rant style..Like how engine takes one topic and goes off on a completely different tangent

he isn't your red pill savior..But he goes off on tangents hating hipsters and talking about tripping his girlfriend bff

[Beyond Borders]

^ Yeah, I don't get why any of us are hating on the guy. Funny or not, he's a stand-up comedian making fun of a famous person that has been accused of rape 13 times, and a famous person popularized for his wholesome demeanor, no less.

I don't care who you are - if you've been accused of rape by 13 women, you're not only begging to be laughed at, whether you did it or not, but you're going to get laughed at. Hell, my friends would never let me hear the end of it if I got accused of rape even one time. That's just how the world works.

We can't be getting that touchy around here that we're calling out for slander charges when a comedian heckles a guy about multiple rape accusations, can we?

[Enigma]

Wasn't there a huge uproar when feminists tried to limit what comedians could joke about?

Yet now we're trying to do the same thing.

I don't agree with what he said, but I believe he should have the right to say it.

[WestIndianArchie]

(10-21-2014 02:21 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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Cosby never responded to the charges and has not been charged with any wrongdoing.

Sue him.

Hard to prove defamation/slander/libel

and more importantly, if Bill did sue Hannibal, Hannibal would call those 13 accusers to the stand. Bill already settled one of those cases.

But most importantly, Hannibal has no money.

Lawyer's gotta eat.

WIA

[blairnaso]

This pisses me off. I love Cosby. Unlike most sitcoms and comedians today or then, his show was clever and well-written, and people will still watch it in 50 years. And yes, he leans feminist, but Cosby is willing to ostracize himself in order to speak a much-needed truth.

Burgess's rant is only a rant passed off as stand up. That's how most comedians are today.

[Slim Shady]

(10-22-2014 07:30 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

Wasn't there a huge uproar when feminists tried to limit what comedians could joke about?

Yet now we're trying to do the same thing.

I don't agree with what he said, but I believe he should have the right to say it.

There is a difference. For example, one of my favorite comics - Norm MacDonald - made a joke on his Sports Show about "a fateful first meeting with Kobe Bryant in a hotel room" [paraphrased] insinuating that he might have raped the girl. Now while I didn't like the joke since I think Kobe has been through hell for a false accusation, I let Norm slide with making a conjecture because he says a lot of offensive deadpan stuff in general.

Here however, Buress' punchline is "Bill Cosby rapes women". That is the line, said quite forcefully, and you can argue how maliciously. There is a difference between being witty, or deadpan, and making accusations outright.

But we've been making OJ did it jokes for a long time. Is this different? I think it is, because of the higher problem of false rape vs. false murder accusations, and the completely different societal response to them. Even Chris Rock's famous "I understand why OJ did it" bit only insinuates strongly that OJ did it. He keeps saying "I'm not saying he did it". That is how comedy works.

Now I support his right to say anything in standup- the last bastion of free speech - but is this libel? I'm not a lawyer so you can help me on this.

What I also support is for this guy to get the shit beat out of him verbally because this was a sucker punch bitch move of a joke weather or not it was actually libel. It is like Aziz getting cheap applause for parroting feminism on Letterman, only worse because he is also accusing someone of a crime without proof.

Just because someone is falsely accused 1 time or 10 times, to me it is still the same if they are found innocent. I personally have been accused of the vague "sexual misconduct" twice. I didn't become less innocent after the second incident.

[Enigma]

(10-22-2014 12:35 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  

There is a difference. For example, one of my favorite comics - Norm MacDonald - made a joke on his Sports Show about "a fateful first meeting with Kobe Bryant in a hotel room" [paraphrased] insinuating that he might have raped the girl. Now while I didn't like the joke since I think Kobe has been through hell for a false accusation, I let Norm slide with making a conjecture because he says a lot of offensive deadpan stuff in general.

Here however, Buress' punchline is "Bill Cosby rapes women". That is the line, said quite forcefully, and you can argue how maliciously. There is a difference between being witty, or deadpan, and making accusations outright.

We're all adults here. Is saying someone is a rapist really that much more offensive than strongly implying someone is a rapist? Come on.

It's like a parent spelling out a curse word in front of their child. Past a certain age, we all know what is being said.

The whole comedian vs. feminist debate I mentioned earlier revolved around comic's right to joke about rape. Now we're going to turn right around and say, "no, that particular rape joke is going too far"?

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But we've been making OJ did it jokes for a long time. Is this different? I think it is, because of the higher problem of false rape vs. false murder accusations, and the completely different societal response to them. Even Chris Rock's famous "I understand why OJ did it" bit only insinuates strongly that OJ did it. He keeps saying "I'm not saying he did it". That is how comedy works.

No offense, but you're taking this way too seriously. You're debating the societal implications between two different kind of rape jokes or calling someone a rapist vs. a murderer because of crime statistics.

It's a standup routine.

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Now I support his right to say anything in standup- the last bastion of free speech - but is this libel? I'm not a lawyer so you can help me on this.

I'm not a lawyer either, but I'm pretty sure it's not libel and I'd be interested to hear about any past cases where a comedian has been sued for something said during an act.

Dave Chappelle made not one but two satire music videos that featured R Kelly pissing and shitting on groups of women, and he wasn't sued as far as I know.

It's comedy. Nothing is -- or should be -- off limits. Doesn't matter if you agree with what they're saying or not.

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What I also support is for this guy to get the shit beat out of him verbally because this was a sucker punch bitch move of a joke weather or not it was actually libel. It is like Aziz getting cheap applause for parroting feminism on Letterman, only worse because he is also accusing someone of a crime without proof.

Just because someone is falsely accused 1 time or 10 times, to me it is still the same if they are found innocent. I personally have been accused of the vague "sexual misconduct" twice. I didn't become less innocent after the second incident.

I don't think the joke was funny at all and I 100% agree with your point regarding false accusations not being proof of guilt. Didn't find it anymore offense than plenty of other shit said by comedians but hey, that's just me.

But he still has the right to say it. Stopping people from saying things just because they offend a particular group is exactly what SJWs push for.

[General Stalin]

Man for such an anti-PC crowd lot of you are pretty bent up about this. It's stand-up comedy. Several comedians have said far worse shit about far better people. Take it as a poor joke you don't find funny and move on. Some comedians make a living strictly off of doing staunchly controversial comedy and rants. I think Buress is pretty funny personally, and if someone's deliery is good they can make any controversial topic funny and relatable. Hell look at Bill Burr, Jim Jeffries, or on the more extrme spectrum Doug Stanhope. I don' see anything wrong here - after all it is just a joke.

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I don't think the joke was funny at all and I 100% agree with your point regarding false accusations not being proof of guilt. Didn't find it anymore offense than plenty of other shit said by comedians but hey, that's just me.

But he still has the right to say it. Stopping people from saying things just because they offend a particular group is exactly what SJWs push for.

Exactly.

[Dusty]

The SJW's are looking for dirt on Cosby and attacking him because of this:

[WestIndianArchie]

(10-22-2014 02:24 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

The SJW's are looking for dirt on Cosby and attacking him because of this:

SJW's are largely college educated white people who tip toe around "internal issues" of the black community, because like their white counterparts in the conservative community - they realize they don't know a fucking thing about what goes on in the black community, unless they saw it from a safe distance from their iPads, like watching The Wire.

WIA