[DarkTriad]

(10-20-2014 02:21 PM)MikeyMikeB Wrote:  

Pick up Texas Hold'em and see if you have any natural ability. With a man of your intelligence, I would think you could get something going or at least make some connections. Otherwise calihunter is right, get out of there.

I wouldn't suggest anyone "take up" a new form of gambling in a shark pit like Vegas.

[The Beast1]

(10-20-2014 02:24 PM)Skips Steps Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 02:20 PM)calihunter Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 02:03 PM)Skips Steps Wrote:  

From 2003 to 2013 I was abroad working for the USG in a variety of capacities—everything from contract diplomat, to managing 100s of Linguists for DOD in the Balkans, to running anti-trafficking programs in Moldova. Most of the 10 years was spent in war zones but about two years was spent in Romania, Tashkent, Jordan, and the UAE. My salary ranged from 84k a year to upwards of 240K. I went to an Ivy League school and played football for three years but wasn’t a starter or anything.

I like to travel and I like foreign girls but after 10 years of being abroad I came home last year and set up shop in Vegas. I now am profoundly unhappy, jaded, intellectually blighted, and disillusioned. I own some duplexes which net me about 5000 a month after all the hassle and have a boring ass contract gig which grosses me about another 4500 a month. The contract gig is not in my wheelhouse but I leveraged my security clearance and IT background and get task orders from a prime contractor.

I went all out when I got home. I read the books and felt that the key to women are cars, nice pads, and flashy shit so I leased a Porsche Cayman, got a swanky high rise on the strip for 1600 a month, and joined the country club. I thought I would have 8s throwing themselves at me left and right and I would be the man. I am not. I am leveraged to the max, normally dateless, and pissed off.
I would think that a 33 year old good looking black guy that is well educated and legit would get tons of babes but I was wrong. I feel intellectually and culturally disconnected here. Vegas is an immoral blue collar service based economy where education and worldliness are not valued.

In LA being a Talent Acquisition Specialist for Sony is more important than being a Special Assistant at the World Bank. In DC it is reversed. In New York it’s all about high finance—Ibankers and traders. In Vegas, it’s about…being a host at a club or being a good gambler. I have nothing of value—or no social currency-- to offer the women here.

In DC I always had dates with attractive foreign women and cute State Dept maidens; in Vegas the strippers have stood me up more times than I can count. I still get 9s 2x ayear—check out my FB if you want bonafides—but they are $350 a date girls and I am literally spending all my cash each month. Not hookers, but dinner on the strip with wine is 225 and the shows are about 120 for two tickets. Stupid.
Admittedly, I have limited game. I am sociable but sterile and at times my arrogance is palpable. My game was based upon my status that was discernable from my speech, clothes, and mannerisms. In Vegas they don’t respect a straight arrow like me. I thought that rolling around in Porsche would get me laid but it doesn’t.

In Europe and in the UAE I had model quality (and decent) women coming out of my ears. In Vegas I am getting fatties, flakes, and women who want a man to pay their rent.

Any advice.

Your writing style suggest it was written by a girl

Genre: Informal
Female = 1075
Male = 812
Difference = -263; 43.03%
Verdict: Weak FEMALE

Weak emphasis could indicate European.

Thanks. I really appreciate that. Maybe if I change my effeminate diction the pole dancers will stop standing me up.

The gamergate trolls are on full display. Interesting set up.

If you aren't a troll, here's some honest advice:

Read Bang, Day Bang, and only spend $5 on your dates. Approach 1000 times until something sticks.

Don't talk about money, "personal achievements", and obviously don't brag. No one cares about what your credentials, security clearances, and your job. Seriously, that HB8 you're pining over probably was banging a guy with 2 baby mommas. /sarcasm

And finally, this post deserves to be in the newbie forum.

[Cattle Rustler]

$5? That's not even a tip. I'll say $40, 4 drinks.

He should take the 100 approach challenge at a mall or something where he can't use his car or home as a crutch.

[MikeyMikeB]

(10-20-2014 02:57 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 02:21 PM)MikeyMikeB Wrote:  

Pick up Texas Hold'em and see if you have any natural ability. With a man of your intelligence, I would think you could get something going or at least make some connections. Otherwise calihunter is right, get out of there.

I wouldn't suggest anyone "take up" a new form of gambling in a shark pit like Vegas.

Im not saying to jump in to high stakes no limit, but do it as a hobby and see if he has any natural ability or interest. In low dollar formats it's not more expensive then any other hobby and its a good way to meet people. Assume you'll loose ever dollar you bet. I blow $30 a week at the pool hall but I meet a lot of new people and have a good time. Also poker is a good way to practice keeping your emotions under control.

[Skip's Steps]

(10-20-2014 02:49 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Damn, I see we got some haters in the house.

Dude, why are you spending 350 on dates? What's wrong with spending less or going for drinks and apps?

The moment you do something to get bitches is the moment you lost the battle.

Spin your story in a way that fits the setting, don't say you weren't a football starter or shuffled papers abroad. Just say you played football and went to a-stan.

If you think you're being a sqaure, stop acting like one.

Damn, 350 for dates with fatties and flakes....damn.

No, not on fatties...on tens. I would never date anything less than an eight. I am willing to PM an established member my FB to check my bonafides and he can vouch for the story.

[Skip's Steps]

(10-20-2014 02:44 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

Everything you have spoken stinks of bad game.

Quote:

I read the books and felt that the key to women are cars, nice pads, and flashy shit

You can't possibly be talking about game books, because I haven't seen a game book talking about that being the key to women. Sure it may help, but if you can't crawl you sure as hell aren't going to be able to run.

You also put off a vibe of blaming anything but yourself. Bad game is a result of you, not your location or your job. You aren't getting laid because of bad game, not because you aren't a club promoter or high stakes gambler.

Backpeddle. Look inwardly. Start working on your game.

Or stop trolling.

Different stickks work in different places. Why is this hard to recognize? I do blame myself.

I am just a no BS kinda guy...not really a smooth talker...

[kaotic]

(10-20-2014 03:03 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

$5? That's not even a tip. I'll say $40, 4 drinks.

He should take the 100 approach challenge at a mall or something where he can't use his car or home as a crutch.

Strip a man from all his material wealth then you'll see how he is.

Back to basics approaching and gaming, then little by little integrate you wealth into your gaming.

[Skip's Steps]

(10-20-2014 02:15 PM)rottenapple Wrote:  

Yes write datasheets on these places; Romania, Tashkent, Jordan, and the UAE and the RVF community will repay you with all the wisdom of the world.

My info is dated. I used to clean up in Planters in Bucharest...last time I checked it's been closed long time now.

[DarkTriad]

Skip's intro Bio for the edification of our thread readers.

(10-19-2014 10:30 PM)Skips Steps Wrote:  

I love this site...been reading it nonstop for the last five hours.

As a global traveler and connoisseur of international women this site is a gold mine. It’s much less tawdry than the mongerer site I have come across where the blatant exploitation and sleazy coercion of local ladies leaves me uncomfortable. I lived in Thailand for a year and was disgusted with the 250 pound farangs gleefully molesting women 1/3rd their age and ½ their weight.

This site seems like a community of decent men looking to leverage their strengths on the global market.

I like the fact that the site is nuanced and references bank roll and race. We young Americans are pretty cool, but having lived as a black guy in the FSU on official business I can say that my white colleagues had starkly different experiences than I did. And when the boys back home saw me with 9s, I had to remind them that they were not Russian but rather Tatar chicks from Tashkent that had their struggles with the Russian system.
I have had the privilege of travelling to more than 70 countries over the past ten years working for DOS/USAID around the globe and on taking my 60 days of annual leave when I worked in conflict zones (Iraq, ASTAN, Sudan). My OCONUS experience began at 20 during my sophomore year in Poland and ended 13 years later last year when I returned from Kabul.

I look forward to learning from you and from sharing my experiences.

[Skip's Steps]

(10-20-2014 02:52 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

OK, this advice may feel beneath you, or may not suit your strengths, but here is what a friend did when faced with a somewhat similar situation. He was an intelligent, educated, accomplished man that didn't quite fit in. The usual paths just didn't seem to be working, everything just seemed fake and superficial and meaningless. But he was smart enough to realize that if a bullshit currency has value with the people you need, it gains value for you. In addition to his respectable 6 figure day job, he became a doorman at a popular night club. He has good at it (weight lifting and martial arts fanatic, good attitude, good demeanor). He tended to get gigs at the most exclusive places in town, with the hottest talent. He was a rational man, in an irrational world, so he carved out a place for himself where he got rewarded for doing rational things he was good at and loved to do (being the warrior-protector archetype). None of the normal club posturing and douchebaggery had ever made any sense to him, so he found a place there that made sense, but was still surrounded by beautiful women. He suddenly got an entirely irrational amount of high quality ass for the job he was doing.

If society is valuing club hosts and the illusory power of a doorman over the skills that make a civilized society function, you've got to figure out a strategy that gets the best out of both worlds.

Actually, that's a great idea...it's not my our game we just have to play it. I actually considered working at Tao as security when the govt shut down last year and I had no second income for like 6 months.

I am thinking of starting a club related business too...just gotta find a reliable wordpress programmer.

[Skip's Steps]

(10-20-2014 03:13 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:03 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

$5? That's not even a tip. I'll say $40, 4 drinks.

He should take the 100 approach challenge at a mall or something where he can't use his car or home as a crutch.

Strip a man from all his material wealth then you'll see how he is.

Back to basics approaching and gaming, then little by little integrate you wealth into your gaming.

Silly. E.Euro women don;t value such drivel. They value a man's status and his accomplishment and his ability to provide stability...

Maybe that's why I have dated 2 Americans since sophomore year of college. Only E.Europeans in America, Europe, or the UAE.

[presidentcarter]

(10-20-2014 03:29 PM)Skips Steps Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:13 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:03 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

$5? That's not even a tip. I'll say $40, 4 drinks.

He should take the 100 approach challenge at a mall or something where he can't use his car or home as a crutch.

Strip a man from all his material wealth then you'll see how he is.

Back to basics approaching and gaming, then little by little integrate you wealth into your gaming.

Silly. E.Euro women don;t value such drivel. They value a man's status and his accomplishment and his ability to provide stability...

Maybe that's why I have dated 2 Americans since sophomore year of college. Only E.Europeans in America, Europe, or the UAE.

Provider game much? You don't have to show a girl your resume to pull her. Not even in EE.

[kaotic]

(10-20-2014 03:29 PM)Skips Steps Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:13 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:03 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

$5? That's not even a tip. I'll say $40, 4 drinks.

He should take the 100 approach challenge at a mall or something where he can't use his car or home as a crutch.

Strip a man from all his material wealth then you'll see how he is.

Back to basics approaching and gaming, then little by little integrate you wealth into your gaming.

Silly. E.Euro women don;t value such drivel. They value a man's status and his accomplishment and his ability to provide stability...

Maybe that's why I have dated 2 Americans since sophomore year of college. Only E.Europeans in America, Europe, or the UAE.

Silly Drivel ? Seriously ?

I'm talking about here in America where you're currently venting to us about NOT EE or UAE.

You're venting about American girls, we're giving advice about American girls.

[WestIndianArchie]

Black guy that prefers EE women.
- made money
- had "important" job
- used "World Game" to score with EE women

Calihunter gave the best advice, Move.

To find an attractive white girl that LIVES in Vegas, and you have a low status job, and comparatively you're broke...

You either need to target the hot tourists that come through, and come up with a good back story if you need to.

Or you need to move out of provider game and get into that skinny hot white girl without fake tits social circle. I don't know Vegas, but high end strippers have down time.

As for your verbal skills, all that time yapping to bitches that barely speak English has hurt your chance to develop game required for American bitches.

And you'll need to up your physical fitness game, as well as your dress code.

The sneak route is to enroll in Henderson Community College

http://www.csn.edu/about/locations/henderson.asp

WIA

[MrXY]

Why are you going on dates in Las Vegas?

Thousands of women come there every week to party and get laid.

Put a couple of hundred bucks cash in your pocket and hit the Strip.

Go from one hotel-casino to another hitting all the casinos and bars. Cold approach any girl who is bangable and approachable. Run standard cold approach game. You should get laid in three days max.

If you dont, study and practice more. You're blaming various external circumstances but the most likely problem is your game needs a lot of work.

[jariel]

(10-20-2014 02:03 PM)Skips Steps Wrote:  

Admittedly, I have limited game.

Black men can't afford to have limited game.

[Mujeriego]

I'm calling troll. Dude is ivy league educated, yet claims he is leveraged to the hilt and hard up for snatch. No one with with that kind of smarts is going to make such poor financial decisions. With a place on the strip he should be rolling in pussy from tourists, but we get a sob story about dropping 3.5 bills per date for a shot at banging.

[kaotic]

[Skip's Steps]

(10-20-2014 03:39 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Black guy that prefers EE women.
- made money
- had "important" job
- used "World Game" to score with EE women

Calihunter gave the best advice, Move.

To find an attractive white girl that LIVES in Vegas, and you have a low status job, and comparatively you're broke...

You either need to target the hot tourists that come through, and come up with a good back story if you need to.

Or you need to move out of provider game and get into that skinny hot white girl without fake tits social circle. I don't know Vegas, but high end strippers have down time.

As for your verbal skills, all that time yapping to bitches that barely speak English has hurt your chance to develop game required for American bitches.

And you'll need to up your physical fitness game, as well as your dress code.

The sneak route is to enroll in Henderson Community College

http://www.csn.edu/about/locations/henderson.asp

WIA

Actually, if I had my druthers I would date a black chick or a Latina. Most of them are not into guys like me. My mom is EE and I seem to understand those women the best.

As to me being broke, it's all relative. I am a 112k a millionaire...remember that Vegas is cheap aside from the strip.

I can't fly private but i have taken two LA girls off millionairematch to Thailand for a week in the last 4 months. I dress well and dont look like a chump.

I think you got me twisted bruh....I look like the ex college football flanker player I am.

[germanico]

Relevant:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-5522.html

[Skip's Steps]

(10-20-2014 04:00 PM)Mujeriego Wrote:  

I'm calling troll. Dude is ivy league educated, yet claims he is leveraged to the hilt and hard up for snatch. No one with with that kind of smarts is going to make such poor financial decisions. With a place on the strip he should be rolling in pussy from tourists, but we get a sob story about dropping 3.5 bills per date for a shot at banging.

Financial acumen and book smarts are not always correlated. In fact, it's about 50/50. I like nice things...what's credit vard debt when I can take a gig in Kabul for three months and come back with 60k)

I also only date high maintenance polished women. The kind of girls I like are quasi in the game and are used to interacting with men of gravitas. The game you speak of does not really work since both Floyd and Julio Iglasiacs are texting mutiple times a day.

I think my probelem is that I am purising women out of my financial league.

[Virtus]

A player living in Vegas and can't get laid while he was tapping that sweet pussy of cute state depart maidens in DC

DC??

Gents. My trolly sense is tingling more and more

Can some mod please check that the ip address does not by chance come from dc?

[Skip's Steps]

(10-20-2014 03:53 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

Why are you going on dates in Las Vegas?

Thousands of women come there every week to party and get laid.

Put a couple of hundred bucks cash in your pocket and hit the Strip.

Go from one hotel-casino to another hitting all the casinos and bars. Cold approach any girl who is bangable and approachable. Run standard cold approach game. You should get laid in three days max.

If you dont, study and practice more. You're blaming various external circumstances but the most likely problem is your game needs a lot of work.

A typical date would be a black tie charity event--where in vegas nobody knows that this requires a tux-- or dinner at STK at the Cosmo. Followed by drinks and then a comped bottle at XS, Marquee, or whatever other industry night is poppin.
I also take chicks zip lining, go carting, ferrishweel riding (the linq) and to shows like Blue Man or Cirque du Solei.

[Skip's Steps]

(10-20-2014 04:40 PM)calihunter Wrote:  

A player living in Vegas and can't get laid while he was tapping that sweet pussy of cute state depart maidens in DC

DC??

Gents. My trolly sense is tingling more and more

Can some mod please check that the ip address does moot by chance come from dc?

Dude, I am not a player....that's my problem I also have very high standards. I offered to prove bonafides to a member of this board.

[Travesty]

This guy is hilarious.

He's like an Athlone McGuiness with low game and a big provider ego.

Love it.

I hope you don't get banned.