[rudebwoy]

Manabout - Well I know exactly what you are referring to in terms of Hungarian strippers in Toronto. I think with that expectation I thought Budapest would be off the chain, however most of the strippers are not from the Budapest but the smaller towns/cities.

Naughtynomad has a similar view on his blog about Budapest.

Vickers - cute is a nice way of saying not ugly. You seem to be taking this personally, Budapest and Hungary is one off my favourite places to visit.

[Luckystar]

(03-29-2011 08:07 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(03-29-2011 07:30 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I went with my ex and she raved on about how hot the girls are! I am not saying they are ugly but the 3x I went I did not see much to write home about. I would rate them as cute!

I don't really associate them as being porn stars, I tend to give that title to czech girls.

The only difference I saw between Hungarian and Czech girls is that the Hungarians seem to be somewhat curvier, with rounder booties. Majority of the Czech girls have the runway model kind of body.

There was a time, maybe 7 or 8 years ago when there were a lot of Hungarian girls in Toronto. They came in to work as strippers. And any stripclub you went to, the Hungarian girls were probably the hottest.

They're mostly Romanian and Russian now. Have to say, Romanian girls really look damn good....at least the ones I ve seen.

[rudebwoy]

I would give Romanian girls the nod over Hungarian girls.

[Vickers]

(03-29-2011 08:27 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Manabout - Well I know exactly what you are referring to in terms of Hungarian strippers in Toronto. I think with that expectation I thought Budapest would be off the chain, however most of the strippers are not from the Budapest but the smaller towns/cities.

Naughtynomad has a similar view on his blog about Budapest.

Vickers - cute is a nice way of saying not ugly. You seem to be taking this personally, Budapest and Hungary is one off my favourite places to visit.

Maybe i sound a bit hassled but to be honest i just like to be precise when judging somebody.

So i think there are still some questions open:

Is this "hotness" thing a national trait or does this depend only on the person himself?

So are the more hot girls in X country because they care more about their appearence than in Y country,or just becaues they ARE from that country?

I think in this case the Russians whould take the cake by a long shot,cause they put even more in their appearence than the swedes and are also a LOT more feminine.

BTW im not the only one who says that the swedes are overrated.
Even on this forum either,also some of the comments.

Read Flashman's report on sweden:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-1036.html

His verdict was:

shapely, pretty cuties in abundance, but no trophy stunners.

The same what i thought about the hungarian girls.

But in the end it's all them same:

Beauty is in the eye of beholder.

This is the type of question which will be undecided for ever.

[Gringo]

Quote:

I think in this case the Russians whould take the cake by a long shot,cause they put even more in their appearence than the swedes and are also a LOT more feminine.

The only Russians I've ever seen are the ones on holiday with their scary looking boyfriends in Thailand and they have to be the worst dressed girls I've ever seen, their dress sense is right out the 1980s and their make up is always OTT.

[rudebwoy]

Vickers - yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I am not talking solely on dressing. I am talking overall look compared with attitudes, I don't even recall seeing a fat chick or even a obese girl like you do in North America. I am not concerned what another poster thinks of the place, some people are crazy about Thai girls or Brazilian girls - you get the drift.

But to flat out say Sweden and the girls are overrated is a false statement in my opinion. Russian girls may look cute but they cannot touch the Swedes. Just so we are clear, I am not talking just the blondes. Some of the best looking girls i saw where Brunettes and yes I saw more than a handful of stunners. The only place I would like to measure it against would abe Ukraine or maybe some of the Baltic states.

[hydrogonian]

(03-30-2011 09:10 AM)Gringo Wrote:  

Quote:

I think in this case the Russians whould take the cake by a long shot,cause they put even more in their appearence than the swedes and are also a LOT more feminine.

The only Russians I've ever seen are the ones on holiday with their scary looking boyfriends in Thailand and they have to be the worst dressed girls I've ever seen, their dress sense is right out the 1980s and their make up is always OTT.

yeah, but at least they are trying to be feminine. I love it.

'A' for effort

[Vickers]

(03-30-2011 07:34 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Vickers - yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I am not talking solely on dressing. I am talking overall look compared with attitudes, I don't even recall seeing a fat chick or even a obese girl like you do in North America. I am not concerned what another poster thinks of the place, some people are crazy about Thai girls or Brazilian girls - you get the drift.

But to flat out say Sweden and the girls are overrated is a false statement in my opinion. Russian girls may look cute but they cannot touch the Swedes. Just so we are clear, I am not talking just the blondes. Some of the best looking girls i saw where Brunettes and yes I saw more than a handful of stunners. The only place I would like to measure it against would abe Ukraine or maybe some of the Baltic states.

I think you've got me wrong again.

But to clearify:

The truth is that the chicks in north america (on average) are no match to the european ones at all.

The eastern european girls are almost all slim,fit(model-type) no matter where you go.
But also the western european ones(except england) are markedly fitter.
So i think your comparison between north americans and swedes, in terms of body was a bit narrow-minded.

Personally i, who has travelled his fair share,in terms of looks,for me, north america is definetly not the bar at all.

You said the russians look cute but cannot touch the swedes.
Then you noticed that the only ones who can compare are the ukrainien ones and some baltic states.
But the truth is that russians and ukrainies are quite similar to each other,so i really don't get your verdict.The first ones cannot even touch,and the second ones can compare.

Maybe it was a misconception that we should flat out swedish girls as overrated.
But if you have read other travel forums(which i did a lot),and spoke with other travel buddies you would know that their beauty(and beauty of girls in general) pretty much depends on taste.
Some rave over brazilians some over thais,and some over others,as you also said.

For example you(and others) refer to them as stunners, Flashman and i
(and others) do not.

How simple it is.

I just wanted to point out that it is rather unambiguous whether they are stunners or not.

That's why i mentioned the eternal truth of beauty is being in the eye of beholder.

[Vickers]

(03-31-2011 05:24 AM)Vickers Wrote:  

(03-30-2011 07:34 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Vickers - yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I am not talking solely on dressing. I am talking overall look compared with attitudes, I don't even recall seeing a fat chick or even a obese girl like you do in North America. I am not concerned what another poster thinks of the place, some people are crazy about Thai girls or Brazilian girls - you get the drift.

But to flat out say Sweden and the girls are overrated is a false statement in my opinion. Russian girls may look cute but they cannot touch the Swedes. Just so we are clear, I am not talking just the blondes. Some of the best looking girls i saw where Brunettes and yes I saw more than a handful of stunners. The only place I would like to measure it against would abe Ukraine or maybe some of the Baltic states.

I think you've got me wrong again.

But to clearify:

The truth is that the chicks in north america (on average) are no match to the european ones at all.

The eastern european girls are almost all slim,fit(model-type) no matter where you go.
But also the western european ones(except england) are markedly fitter.
So i think your comparison between north americans and swedes, in terms of body was a bit narrow-minded.

Personally i, who has travelled his fair share,in terms of looks,for me, north america is definetly not the bar at all.

You said the russians look cute but cannot touch the swedes.
Then you noticed that the only ones who can compare are the ukrainien ones and some baltic states.
But the truth is that russians and ukrainies are quite similar to each other,so i really don't get your verdict.The first ones cannot even touch,and the second ones can compare.

Maybe it was a misconception that we should flat out swedish girls as overrated.
But if you have read other travel forums(which i did a lot),and spoke with other travel buddies you would know that their beauty(and beauty of girls in general) pretty much depends on taste.
Some rave over brazilians some over thais,and some over others,as you also said.

For example you(and others) refer to them as stunners, Flashman and i
(and others) do not.

How simple it is.

I just wanted to point out that it is rather unambiguous whether they are stunners or not.

That's why i mentioned the eternal truth of beauty is being in the eye of beholder.

Sorry, wanted to say it ISN'T unambiguous whether they are stunners or not.

Was a bit quick on typing.

[Luckystar]

(03-31-2011 05:24 AM)Vickers Wrote:  

(03-30-2011 07:34 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Vickers - yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I am not talking solely on dressing. I am talking overall look compared with attitudes, I don't even recall seeing a fat chick or even a obese girl like you do in North America. I am not concerned what another poster thinks of the place, some people are crazy about Thai girls or Brazilian girls - you get the drift.

But to flat out say Sweden and the girls are overrated is a false statement in my opinion. Russian girls may look cute but they cannot touch the Swedes. Just so we are clear, I am not talking just the blondes. Some of the best looking girls i saw where Brunettes and yes I saw more than a handful of stunners. The only place I would like to measure it against would abe Ukraine or maybe some of the Baltic states.

I think you've got me wrong again.

But to clearify:

The truth is that the chicks in north america (on average) are no match to the european ones at all.

The eastern european girls are almost all slim,fit(model-type) no matter where you go.
But also the western european ones(except england) are markedly fitter.
So i think your comparison between north americans and swedes, in terms of body was a bit narrow-minded.

Personally i, who has travelled his fair share,in terms of looks,for me, north america is definetly not the bar at all.

You said the russians look cute but cannot touch the swedes.
Then you noticed that the only ones who can compare are the ukrainien ones and some baltic states.
But the truth is that russians and ukrainies are quite similar to each other,so i really don't get your verdict.The first ones cannot even touch,and the second ones can compare.

Maybe it was a misconception that we should flat out swedish girls as overrated.
But if you have read other travel forums(which i did a lot),and spoke with other travel buddies you would know that their beauty(and beauty of girls in general) pretty much depends on taste.
Some rave over brazilians some over thais,and some over others,as you also said.

For example you(and others) refer to them as stunners, Flashman and i
(and others) do not.

How simple it is.

I just wanted to point out that it is rather unambiguous whether they are stunners or not.

That's why i mentioned the eternal truth of beauty is being in the eye of beholder.

Your posts are getting redundant and repetitive.

[Vickers]

(03-31-2011 10:52 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 05:24 AM)Vickers Wrote:  

(03-30-2011 07:34 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Vickers - yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I am not talking solely on dressing. I am talking overall look compared with attitudes, I don't even recall seeing a fat chick or even a obese girl like you do in North America. I am not concerned what another poster thinks of the place, some people are crazy about Thai girls or Brazilian girls - you get the drift.

But to flat out say Sweden and the girls are overrated is a false statement in my opinion. Russian girls may look cute but they cannot touch the Swedes. Just so we are clear, I am not talking just the blondes. Some of the best looking girls i saw where Brunettes and yes I saw more than a handful of stunners. The only place I would like to measure it against would abe Ukraine or maybe some of the Baltic states.

I think you've got me wrong again.

But to clearify:

The truth is that the chicks in north america (on average) are no match to the european ones at all.

The eastern european girls are almost all slim,fit(model-type) no matter where you go.
But also the western european ones(except england) are markedly fitter.
So i think your comparison between north americans and swedes, in terms of body was a bit narrow-minded.

Personally i, who has travelled his fair share,in terms of looks,for me, north america is definetly not the bar at all.

You said the russians look cute but cannot touch the swedes.
Then you noticed that the only ones who can compare are the ukrainien ones and some baltic states.
But the truth is that russians and ukrainies are quite similar to each other,so i really don't get your verdict.The first ones cannot even touch,and the second ones can compare.

Maybe it was a misconception that we should flat out swedish girls as overrated.
But if you have read other travel forums(which i did a lot),and spoke with other travel buddies you would know that their beauty(and beauty of girls in general) pretty much depends on taste.
Some rave over brazilians some over thais,and some over others,as you also said.

For example you(and others) refer to them as stunners, Flashman and i
(and others) do not.

How simple it is.

I just wanted to point out that it is rather unambiguous whether they are stunners or not.

That's why i mentioned the eternal truth of beauty is being in the eye of beholder.

Your posts are getting redundant and repetitive.

Sorry for that,just wanted to avoid exaggerations of some statements.

[UrbanNerd]

I have been in the DC area for 15 of my last 20 years and I rank DC WAY ahead of Philly. If anything, Philly has a lot of men around and a "6" in Philly has like 10 guys around her. I will agree that most of the "better looking" females of the DC area are in the 'burbs....but the women are the desperate ones. There are much less men than women here...and I like that.

[rudebwoy]

Vickers - how long is a piece of string.

Bro give it a rest, go lie down because I am not sure who you are and what you are blabbering about.

The post is about places with surprisingly ugly girls, I stated that I thought Budapest would be better for selection of girls. Does not mean I dislike the place or I would not visit the place again, I am open minded enough to think beyond that.

If there is a country that you "claim" has better girls than Sweden, please do tell oh wise one!

[Vickers]

(03-31-2011 10:31 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Vickers - how long is a piece of string.

Bro give it a rest, go lie down because I am not sure who you are and what you are blabbering about.

The post is about places with surprisingly ugly girls, I stated that I thought Budapest would be better for selection of girls. Does not mean I dislike the place or I would not visit the place again, I am open minded enough to think beyond that.

If there is a country that you "claim" has better girls than Sweden, please do tell oh wise one!

Dear Rudeboy!

I'm sorry if i seemed to you as a blabber,i only wanted to share my EXPERIENCES.

You shared yours and i replied mines.

It think the problem was that you weren't exact.

It would have been more obvious if you would have written:

"They( the hungarian girls) are fine,but not my type at all."

For me at least,it seemed like you would rate them as dime a dozen(which would be,i think, an overstatment).

Maybe i misunderstood you.

If that's the case,sorry bro.

Swedish girls:

For me, a stunner is a girl who has an unique,exotic,oustanding beauty with personalities to match.
The (etnich) swedish girls have a refined,although cute,not outstanding,not unique beauty with personalities not too much to write about.

The hottest girls(in terms of looks) of sweden are the ones with mixed genetics.

Mixing gives them an extra flavour which takes them above the bar.

So,while there a lot of pretty ones, dimes,outstanding stunners(9's,10's) are missing,or at least very rare.

Speaking of attitude:

If there is one thing swedish(or at least stockholm) girls have way too much of,it's attitude.
Snobby,bitchy attitude ,also the:

"I'm a swedish girl, (i think) i'm the shit" way of thinking is also sensible in some cases.

If only foreigners would believe the fairytale,it would have been no problem.
The biggest deal is that they believe themselves as being something special.
So attitude as high as it gets.

I think feminism also has a very bad influence on them.They're not feminine at all(compared to eastern euros).

For me,a shitty attitude can destroy the whole hotness scale even if the chick has a killer look.

Of course,not saying hungarian girls are all honeys,but the difference is a light year at least.

Some places for you to go:

Poznan,Poland
Vilnius,Lithuania,
Izmir,Turkey.


These cities are pretty much off the beaten track,but they're worth a visit.

Poznan girls,have killer looks,feminine,are smiling, have far less attitude(than swedish).
Vilnius is the same,the look differs a bit, and have a bit more of slavic(russian) influence.
Also,these two places have not been ruined yet by stag parties so the girls are friendly and ready for some cultural exchange.

Last but not least Izmir,Turkey.

The turkish fashion capital.

Exotic, down to earth girls(a lots of them with green eyes) with nice attitude,and also killer looks.

You would'not believe how much good looking turkish broads can be.
I think so far, that was the place wher i saw the hottest average of 9's.

That's all i can say,hope i was helpful.

[Agent_GQ]

Pretty sure vickers has asperger's.

[Luckystar]

(04-01-2011 12:44 PM)Vickers Wrote:  

Speaking of attitude:

If there is one thing swedish(or at least stockholm) girls have way too much of,it's attitude.
Snobby,bitchy attitude ,also the:

"I'm a swedish girl, (i think) i'm the shit" way of thinking is also sensible in some cases.

If only foreigners would believe the fairytale,it would have been no problem. The biggest deal is that they believe themselves as being something special.
So attitude as high as it gets.

I think feminism also has a very bad influence on them.They're not feminine at all(compared to eastern euros).

A lot of people say Swedish girls are easy. Feminist culture allows them to be sluts without the shame of it.

A lot of people also say they have inflated attitudes. It's the result of good looks in a beta society.

In the end, both are probably overstated and offset each other.

[rudebwoy]

Luckystar - Swedish girls can be liberal, if they like you. Yes feminism is strong there but I found Swedish dudes to be ultra cool and chilled out.There was none of that macho crap from guys wondering what you are doing there. So the comment about a Beta society is a bit off the mark, heck you could say Canada is a beta society.

I did not experience the inflated attitudes, to be honest I strutted around with a bigger attitude.

[Luckystar]

(04-01-2011 07:10 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Luckystar - Swedish girls can be liberal, if they like you. Yes feminism is strong there but I found Swedish dudes to be ultra cool and chilled out.There was none of that macho crap from guys wondering what you are doing there. So the comment about a Beta society is a bit off the mark, heck you could say Canada is a beta society.

I did not experience the inflated attitudes, to be honest I strutted around with a bigger attitude.

I stand corrected, RB. I haven't been there as of yet.

The common perception of Swedish guys is they don't have much game or approach much. The handful of Swedish girls I ve been with have mentioned as much. I don't really know if it's true or not.

[Hooligan Harry]

(03-30-2011 07:34 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Vickers - yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I am not talking solely on dressing. I am talking overall look compared with attitudes, I don't even recall seeing a fat chick or even a obese girl like you do in North America. I am not concerned what another poster thinks of the place, some people are crazy about Thai girls or Brazilian girls - you get the drift.

But to flat out say Sweden and the girls are overrated is a false statement in my opinion. Russian girls may look cute but they cannot touch the Swedes. Just so we are clear, I am not talking just the blondes. Some of the best looking girls i saw where Brunettes and yes I saw more than a handful of stunners. The only place I would like to measure it against would abe Ukraine or maybe some of the Baltic states.

Have you been to Russia?

[Vickers]

(04-01-2011 05:23 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(04-01-2011 12:44 PM)Vickers Wrote:  

Speaking of attitude:

If there is one thing swedish(or at least stockholm) girls have way too much of,it's attitude.
Snobby,bitchy attitude ,also the:

"I'm a swedish girl, (i think) i'm the shit" way of thinking is also sensible in some cases.

If only foreigners would believe the fairytale,it would have been no problem. The biggest deal is that they believe themselves as being something special.
So attitude as high as it gets.

I think feminism also has a very bad influence on them.They're not feminine at all(compared to eastern euros).

A lot of people also say they have inflated attitudes. It's the result of good looks in a beta society.

Hmmm...i don't know.

I've been to Poland and Lithuania.
Countries filled to the rim with good looking girls.

But i saw nowhere near that attitude overload as in Sweden,whether it is a beta society or not.

Also this "I could wrap any guy around my finger" impulse was totally absent.

I think so far, swedish women have to learn a lot,to have a healthy value system.

[Roosh]

If there's one thing I keep hearing about Sweden, it's that the guys are stylish but "shy." Sounds like Iceland.

[rudebwoy]

Hooligan Harry - I have never been to Russia but it has always been on the list, although the violence scares me. I have seen enough Russian girls to form an opinion albeit not in there native country. They just give me a bad vibe or maybe I am just reading into what I hear, the whole princess thing turns me right off. In Sweden I was out with a date and she would not even allow me to buy her a tea, got to love feminism.

Vickers - I have had several polish girls and I do rate them as sexy, but again alot of them look like Russian girls and I hate that peroxide blonde hair look. Lithuania has some nice looking girls as well but again I am not a fan of there faces, don't know how to describe it.

Roosh - Swedish guys are trendy, stylish and I know if they came to my town - they would clean up. But they are reserved and pretty cool, I put it down to growing up with hot girls everyday. How many here can say the same thing?? Fcuk if I see a hot girl these days sometimes I do a U-turn to take another look.

[JoeDirt]

Chicago, IL yuck

[Vickers]

(04-02-2011 09:24 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Hooligan Harry - I have never been to Russia but it has always been on the list, although the violence scares me. I have seen enough Russian girls to form an opinion albeit not in there native country.

Then,excuse me,but i don’t know what u are talking about.

On the other hand,
i don’t know for sure,if you have noticed it but it’s very common if somebody moves to another country he or she adopts the culture of it and assimilates.

A good advice:
first experience the home turf .

(04-02-2011 09:24 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

They just give me a bad vibe or maybe I am just reading into what I hear, the whole princess thing turns me right off.

Princess thing?
What do you refer to?
From your aspect,it seems like if a girl/women is feminine(wears nice clothes,elegant or behaves in any point of view like a women)turns her into a bitch.
You just recalled the typical american bringin-up of nowdays.
Women in the states forgot how to be like women,that’s fact(just for example, going to clubs in jeans and sneakers,and the boyish attitude of course too).
Not wondering why a lot of dudes are fed up on this one and look for a women(wife material) abroad.

Otherwise life in Russia can be very hard for the women.
Even in the middle class.
Working day in day out,get home,do the house work, cooking(yes cooking,not going to fast-food restaurants as it’s usual in the good old US of A )washing the clothes,help the kids to get the homework done,and then LOVE the husband too,so there’s not much time to chill.
And that’s an every day routin.
Not a lazy lifestyle,it’s totally different.
The lifestyle in the states is pretty much easy-going compared to it.
Also the ratio of men is pretty low,so there’s not much to choose from and if you don’t marry until the age of 26-28 it is considered there as a bit of shame.
What do you think why do a lot of them want to leave the country?
Because of their life without too much expectations.

(Before you would ask no,i’m not a russian women,just well-informed.)

(04-02-2011 09:24 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

In Sweden I was out with a date and she would not even allow me to buy her a tea, got to love feminism.

Was this a russian girl?
If yes ,how do you know why did she refuse your invitation?

We don’t know exactly the reasons so just let it pass.

Judging by a person in my opinion, is a pretty poorish sample.

But anyway,i think it’s not a question which girls are (much) more feminine the russian or the swedish ones.

(04-02-2011 09:24 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Vickers - I have had several polish girls and I do rate them as sexy,

You made me curious .
You’were telling about cuteness,hotness,stunningness before and now sexiness.

I just wanna know what your ratings of the „beauty-scale” in order are.

(04-02-2011 09:24 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

but again alot of them look like Russian girls and I hate that peroxide blonde hair look.

Again.

I’m increasingly doubting now that you’ve been to sweden.
Or maybe you just don’t know how peroxide blonds look.
I will tell you.You see it at best when you look at the root of the hair.The part which grows after has a much darker shade.

The best thing about this is , you don’t even have to go to sweden to notice this.
Google is your friend:
Just look at the party pics at the stockholm clubs where you’ve been(reputedly)
(Should i look after for you or do you believe it.)

Also some have fake tans,and maybe some fake hair too.

Fact is, that Sweden has a higher percentage of natural blonds but(as other countries) they also do have their fair share of peroxide blonds too.
Presumably you just didn’t realized or observed that.

(04-02-2011 09:24 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Roosh - Swedish guys are trendy, stylish and I know if they came to my town - they would clean up. But they are reserved and pretty cool, I put it down to growing up with hot girls everyday.

I would put it down for the feminist society they live in.They respect the girls to a fault.
So they can’t(won’t)really release the temper they might have.

(04-02-2011 09:24 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

How many here can say the same thing?? Fcuk if I see a hot girl these days sometimes I do a U-turn to take another look.

Judging by the fact that the majority here is from the states,sadly not too many i believe.

Those lucky europeans…


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[rudebwoy]

Vickers - Are you a woman? Where do you live and where are you from?