[66Scorpio]

I was a family law attorney in Canada for four years. Divorce rape isn't all that common there. Roughly speaking, child support is 10% of your gross for one kid and about 25% for three kids. The killer is if you have young kids who need daycare because that is shared in proportion to your income. It can be more than $1000 a month per kid which is economic lunacy if you have three kids and the bitch only makes 15 bucks an hour.

But let's say you and mom make $60k a year. Guideline is about twelve hundred bucks for three kids plus your share of daycare is another fifteen hundred. After tax you are living on less than fifty bucks a day.

[Leonard D Neubache]

I don't understand what the motivation is to live under that arrangement.

Guys that make well into 6 figures, I can kind of understand them knuckling under because they're still not reduced to eating dog-food to get by.

Personally if I was on the hook to be reduced to a slave to some harpy then I would be negotiating extralegally. I'd tell her "we figure out a mutually agreeable arrangement or I'm going to move to a non-extradition nation and sip pina-coladas while fucking cute native girls for the rest of my life, and once a month I'll Instagram our kids to explain to them why mommy made daddy go away."

I simply can't fathom being a father and living as a slave, though I doubt it would ever come to that. If your ex knows you've got the spine to follow through then she's going to come to the negotiating table, no matter how badly it grinds her gears.

[Captainstabbin]

(09-12-2014 03:45 PM)RockHard Wrote:  

That's a good read. http://www.dilbert.com/blog/entry/the_sh...eneration/

Quote:

Traditional marriage is the biggest obstacle to happiness in the United States. I give it twenty years before society acknowledges it to be a bad fit for modern times.

That's a scary thought.

I'd say that Modern marriage is the biggest obstacle to happiness in the United States. And strong Traditional marriage is the only way to fix most of society's problems.

[Guriko]

(12-09-2018 02:07 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 03:45 PM)RockHard Wrote:  

That's a good read. http://www.dilbert.com/blog/entry/the_sh...eneration/

Quote:

Traditional marriage is the biggest obstacle to happiness in the United States. I give it twenty years before society acknowledges it to be a bad fit for modern times.

That's a scary thought.

I'd say that Modern marriage is the biggest obstacle to happiness in the United States. And strong Traditional marriage is the only way to fix most of society's problems.

I'd have to agree.

I differentiate between Divine Marriage as in a communion of two souls to bring forth happy, productive children in a stable family and Government Sanctioned Marriage which is basically the man putting on a bomb-vest and giving the wife the trigger.

We'll have to push forward through this bullshit and come back towards the center as it is proper.

[Deepdiver]

(12-09-2018 01:41 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

I don't understand what the motivation is to live under that arrangement.

Guys that make well into 6 figures, I can kind of understand them knuckling under because they're still not reduced to eating dog-food to get by.

Personally if I was on the hook to be reduced to a slave to some harpy then I would be negotiating extralegally. I'd tell her "we figure out a mutually agreeable arrangement or I'm going to move to a non-extradition nation and sip pina-coladas while fucking cute native girls for the rest of my life, and once a month I'll Instagram our kids to explain to them why mommy made daddy go away."

I simply can't fathom being a father and living as a slave, though I doubt it would ever come to that. If your ex knows you've got the spine to follow through then she's going to come to the negotiating table, no matter how badly it grinds her gears.

@LDN - You are much kinder than I - I have never been divorced raped in the USA because when the lovely lasses have Church bells ringing in their ears and images of locking down the Old Sea Lion - I have the Sicilian IRA Marriage Divorce Talk with them.

A little Background info...
I tell them I am an Scots Irish German American son of a WWII & Korean War Veteran who was raised by a Sicilian American Korean War Veteran who loved to to beat the Scots Irish out of me until I went to work for a local French Canadian Korean War Veteran who owned a thriving Arbor-Tree-Landscaping-Christmas Tree & Firewood Company in one of the wealthier parts of Connecticut - mostly estates and upper-middle-class customers. The French Canadian could "Knuck-A-Hold of it Mister" a 350lb Tree Root and toss it into the back of his pickup trucks - he actually taught me how to drive a F-350 Dump Truck when I was 14 so I could bring the truck to where he needed it on larger properties - he could speak fluent Machine Gun French when we went up to the northern Vermont Tree Farms every Christmas where he grew up.

Smart man with a buck - and he toughened me up to the point when I was 18 and the Sicilian tried to beat the Scots-Irish-German out of me one last time his fist bounced off me while I laughed at him - My German Genetics took hold and I got Big and Tough and played football as well as working for the French Canadian Woodsman/Landscaper.

I then joined the service and went to sea on LA Class High Speed Nuclear Fast Attack Hunter Killer submarines (That is what they were called did not make that up). We had an 80% Divorce Rate among the Crew and 50% in the Ward Room - bishes loved the sea pay, base PX and health benefits but when their men were at sea were they loyal - HELL NO! - they were known as Boomer Widows - riding local cock carousels in the various resort area Beach Pubs, Bars, Golf Courses and Yacht Clubs. All while their men were on patrol insuring that Soviet Titanium Nuke Boomers did not dare launch at the USA from the sea - actually came close but knock wood even to this day no Soviet Cuban cigars.

I became a natural Red Pill bish banging young sea wolf as a result - even with Blue Pill White Knight tendencies - was not about to be divorce raped and hand over my meager E5 pay and sea pay chump change to some local SIF Slore. Even had one hot one cry to me that I was going to sea and her other boyfriend threatened to dump her if she kept seeing me so what was she supposed to do as she needed a man - she was hot and 19 WTF??? Boo the phock whooo bitch - ironically she hunted me down after my tour of duty was up for another ride on the ol' sea dawg but she was 29 then and her SMV diminished from when she was 19.

Anyway, this life experience hardened me up especially when I found out what my own mother did to my natural father with my Sicilian Stepfather - wow - AWALT including my own mother God Rest Her Wild Soul.

So I decided to tell a little story to prospective bishes looking to lock down the now hardened natural Red Pill Deepdiver...

I called it simply the Sicilian Divorce - I explained in the Sicilian American world that marriage is sacred and for life - one life - one wife - and the deal is the wife will always be provided for even if the men take a mistress Scilcilian men never leave the mothers of their Sons if they do a good job raising and caring for their sons and daughters. However, if they should ever get the inkling of a divorce to destroy his family, business and steal his children - then a Sicilian divorce is one where she goes out in a pine box. In reality, it is much worse - it involves a .357 Magnum to the brain of her, her phockrods, her lawyer and any wifey wine club bishes who in the kitchen over wine start referring her to their divorce lawyers they are banging now that they cleaned out their first husbands - think that Avenatti phock. It would get ugly and quick.

I then explain that if they can live with those [clearly extra legal] terms then we can get married but that if they could ever think of a scenario where they could divorce me it is only fair for me to warn them what exactly would happen in advance.

I would rather live a life sentence with 3 hots and a cot and a gym to work out in then have my life stolen from me... plus my way the body would never be found - and say she would have run away "with her scumbag phuckrod" to never be seen again.

Even if convicted I would plead temporary insanity and get out in 5 to 10 for good behavior.

Point is I have never been married NOR divorce raped because of this Dark Triad dread game that I now know it to be.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Amen to all that DD.

For a woman to feel safe she has to believe you will kill to protect her.
For a woman to feel loved she has to believe you will kill any man that tries to take her.
And for a woman's hypergamy to be blunted she has to believe that you will kill her if she tries to fuck you over.

Believing these three things will quiet a woman's soul. Nothing else.

[Deepdiver]

(12-09-2018 08:23 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Amen to all that DD.

For a woman to feel safe she has to believe you will kill to protect her.
For a woman to feel loved she has to believe you will kill any man that tries to take her.
And for a woman's hypergamy to be blunted she has to believe that you will kill her if she tries to fuck you over.

Believing these three things will quiet a woman's soul. Nothing else.

LDN - That was so good, concise and succinct - and - above all WISE I am adding it to my little divorce talk with any future Mrs. Deepdiver Prospects - as I am now a Silver Fox I am finding a lot of 19 to 29 yo educated lasses with class attracted to the wisdom and mentoring I can impart. Might as well find one to knock up for a few kiddies after she knows the "Rules".

I think I will change it from Sicilian Divorce Rules to The Ancient Warrior Wisdom - Woman's/Wife's Rules...

[MoultrieScout]

Scott Adams is an anomaly.

He is both red pilled and blue, but you have to give it to him for taking a hit for using basic scientific thinking in a lot of his approaches. The key is he refuses to don either party's jersey, or "join a team".

It allows him to think above the fray without a guttural reaction.

I resurrected this thread after recently finding it after reading his last two books. He was called soy for marrying a mom of two, but in reality that is not that far off base for a man who never experienced a traditional family.

But whatever happened with that, I dunno. Wouldn't surprise me if she couldn't understand his admiration for Trump's deal making/persuasion game.

But the important part is, he is unabashedly reaping the benefits of more advanced game. He's banging a young model, travels with her, and for the most part, sends her home in between.