[The Beast1]

Something about women in my eyes has changed. When i was growing up, i looked at everyone as, "continually getting better" in looks, knowledge, wisdom, etc. With time everything comes.

Now when I see a women over the age of 21, I can't help but realize she is slowly wasting away. It's like watching a build up to a plataeu and then they gradually start declining. Not a fast decline have you, but a slow but noticeable decline. This decline includes basically everything i hold dear to and fear losing. Things like health, sanity, flexibiliy, and mental power. The older the women get the exponential decline gets worse.

Can anyone relate? I guess i'm starting to noticing the wall manifesting around me.

[Akula]

Yep, I see it too. Even with the hotties I'm increasingly like "meh, wait til you hit 35 princess then we'll see how hot you are."

I'm increasingly gravitating towards high 6s and low 7s who are so much more fun to be with and less maintenance.

IMO the age sweet spot is between 25 and say 29. Those girls typically have experienced a lot of things in life, are out of school and working and realize how much careers really do suck. They also have lost their social circles at a lot of them, and wouldn't mind having a man around. Plus, they aren't quite hitting the wall so hard and are not yet in 'panic mode' re having babies. Ergo, they aren't crazy and on anti-depressents in the West (yet) or losing all hope in EE.

But having said that, I just feel more and more like women are a rapidly depreciating asset esp. after 30, and question why I even want to get into a 'relationship' or hell even have kids at this point - why fucking bother? But that's another issue I guess.

[Glaucon]

Well, knowing the truth about women takes away the majestic appear of them.

[It_is_my_time]

A man's true strength is in his creativity and his ability to solve problems. As men age, we become better masters of these things. In our society today, it is demanded that men do this or they are pretty much kicked to the curb. And even many men who do these things are taken for granted. So the average man is getting fed up and starting to opt out.

A woman's true strength is in her ability to nurture. Imagine a still slim and decent looking 50 year old who wears stockings and heels every day and has a warm meal waiting for you when you come home, comforts you after a rough day and makes it all worth while. Yea, she doesn't look as good as she did at 25, but she knows what it takes to make you happy, and she gives it her best to do so. All the while keeping your kids happy. And her dress and demeanor alone almost make up for her aging body and looks.

But in the feminist western society, a woman's ability to nurture is almost laughed at by society. It is seen as a weakness and men are "sexist" to want this from their women. So now women try to pretend to be men and it is a giant clusterfuck.

In the end the women only have one power, their natural beauty. They don't learn how to dress in a feminine fashion. They don't care for other people as that is a sign of weakness. They try to work long hours, and then spend their entire paycheck on stupid shit to try to buy happiness. And as they age they don't change. 50 years old in flip flops and 50 lbs. over weight from a stressful on the go life and no concern for anyone else. Women in a society like this truly do peak in their mid 20's and then it is all down hill as they don't grow or change or improve.

[IvanDrago]

Just wait until you get in to your 30's like me and experience post 20's women Not only do their looks rapidly decline with every passing day, but their list of demands on you only grow, the amount of debt they are in usually increases, the amount of money needed to keep them interested increases, their manipulation schemes increase, they either have a pile of kids or are insane with baby rabies. My plan is to keep in the best shape I can and save as much cash as I can and just hang around with mid-late 20 somethings until I just don't give a fuck any more and retire early with my friends, family and dog.

Back in my blue pill days I tried dating older women (even single mothers) but it always ended up in a situation that cost way more time and money than it was worth and I wasn't allowed to spend any time on my friends or hobbies after they thought the hooks were in.

There are a lot of older single women around me who still are attractive but man, the closer they get to 40 I can't be around them for more than a few minutes at a time without thinking

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

A change in perception will happen more often as we age

Our needs change, so we have to adapt/adjust and re-evaluate

I can romanticize a GF I had back in my early 20's but who know if we would be compatible still if I ran into her tommorow

What I wanted at 25 isn't what I need at 40-something

[Travesty]

I have a motherfuckin' strict line at 22yo.

22 and under I will gladly bang mid 6s with full joy.

23yo+ 7.0+ only.

The contrast is stark between 22 and 25 for the vast majoirty of chicks.

I consider it the first wall many don't get past.

[kaotic]

As I get older it's not hard to tell what the girls around me will look like once they hit 30-35.

You're already seeing crows feet, chubbier faces, saggy skin, and sacs around their eyes.

All that sugar booze, beer, smoking, and drugs takes it toll right around then.

[The Beast1]

(08-21-2014 03:53 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

I have a motherfuckin' strict line at 22yo.

22 and under I will gladly bang mid 6s with full joy.

23yo+ 7.0+ only.

The contrast is stark between 22 and 25 for the vast majoirty of chicks.

I consider it the first wall many don't get past.

^^^THIS^^^

This is what i've been noticing lately. Girls i've known in their early 20s are starting to look horrible as they reach their mid 20s. It's really startling.

I'm glad though i'm not the only one. I sort of wish I married a chick in my earlier days that way I would have enjoyed some of those blue pilly notions before I grew up. Now I get the feeling i wouldn't be able to settle down at all.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(08-21-2014 06:24 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Something about women in my eyes has changed. When i was growing up, i looked at everyone as, "continually getting better" in looks, knowledge, wisdom, etc. With time everything comes.

Now when I see a women over the age of 21, I can't help but realize she is slowly wasting away. It's like watching a build up to a plataeu and then they gradually start declining. Not a fast decline have you, but a slow but noticeable decline. This decline includes basically everything i hold dear to and fear losing. Things like health, sanity, flexibiliy, and mental power. The older the women get the exponential decline gets worse.

Can anyone relate? I guess i'm starting to noticing the wall manifesting around me.

"Now when I see a women over the age of 21, I can't help but realize she is slowly wasting away."

Thanks to the wonder of the Internet, we can now see the results of all this with just a few mouse clicks.

First, click over to OKCupid and search out the women in a five-miles radius of you ages 21-29. Then search out women in the same area ages 41-49.

I can guarantee you that anyone who does these simple searches would have to be insane to claim women get better as they get older. I live in an affluent DC-Baltimore area suburb and the over 40 set is, for the most part, trainwrecks. I'd hate to have to see what the women look like in areas where they don't have the money for upkeep.

[kaotic]

(08-21-2014 04:43 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 06:24 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Something about women in my eyes has changed. When i was growing up, i looked at everyone as, "continually getting better" in looks, knowledge, wisdom, etc. With time everything comes.

Now when I see a women over the age of 21, I can't help but realize she is slowly wasting away. It's like watching a build up to a plataeu and then they gradually start declining. Not a fast decline have you, but a slow but noticeable decline. This decline includes basically everything i hold dear to and fear losing. Things like health, sanity, flexibiliy, and mental power. The older the women get the exponential decline gets worse.

Can anyone relate? I guess i'm starting to noticing the wall manifesting around me.

"Now when I see a women over the age of 21, I can't help but realize she is slowly wasting away."

Thanks to the wonder of the Internet, we can now see the results of all this with just a few mouse clicks.

First, click over to OKCupid and search out the women in a five-miles radius of you ages 21-29. Then search out women in the same area ages 41-49.

I can guarantee you that anyone who does these simple searches would have to be insane to claim women get better as they get older. I live in an affluent DC-Baltimore area suburb and the over 40 set is, for the most part, trainwrecks. I'd hate to have to see what the women look like in areas where they don't have the money for upkeep.

The saying women age like fine wine is a load of shit, their value decreases as time goes on.

MEN age like fine wine (or whiskey ) because our value only increases as we age.

[Travesty]

@frenchie

Weren't you the one looking to become a minister?

Wouldn't notions like this fuck with your conscience.

I did it before in a thread and it's in my sig.

SENS.org y'all

[TheFinalEpic]

It depends on the girl, if you're talking party girls, those girls are toxic waste by the time they reach 24 if not earlier. Girls that care about their body (and theres not too many of them, let's be honest) can make it past this first wall because they are not running on alcohol and drugs.

Go to your local gym or yoga class. Those girls will make it past this first wall.
Go to a club. Those girls have either hit the wall, are running full steam at it, or were shit in the first place.

[tarquin]

(08-21-2014 03:53 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

I have a motherfuckin' strict line at 22yo.

22 and under I will gladly bang mid 6s with full joy.

23yo+ 7.0+ only.

The contrast is stark between 22 and 25 for the vast majoirty of chicks.

I consider it the first wall many don't get past.

I like to think of it as this:
   

[The Beast1]

(08-21-2014 05:21 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

@frenchie

Weren't you the one looking to become a minister?

Wouldn't notions like this fuck with your conscience.

I did it before in a thread and it's in my sig.

SENS.org y'all

Yeah it really does. My perception has gotten startlingly cold as of late. I do appreciate knowing i'm not the only one who sees this.

[Texas_Tryhard]

(08-21-2014 06:11 PM)tarquin Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 03:53 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

I have a motherfuckin' strict line at 22yo.

22 and under I will gladly bang mid 6s with full joy.

23yo+ 7.0+ only.

The contrast is stark between 22 and 25 for the vast majoirty of chicks.

I consider it the first wall many don't get past.

I like to think of it as this:

Someone photoshop these bitches into a mosh pit

Also, to make this post more contributory to the discussion, I wrote an essay post on RVF a while back regarding women in terms of their investment worth in a relationship.

Shameless self promotion: Relationships are a bad investment for men

Women can remain useful assets but their value must increase in other ways, because their looks certainly aren't going anywhere but down.

[MargStone]

(08-21-2014 03:37 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  

A change in perception will happen more often as we age

Our needs change, so we have to adapt/adjust and re-evaluate

I can romanticize a GF I had back in my early 20's but who know if we would be compatible still if I ran into her tommorow

What I wanted at 25 isn't what I need at 40-something

TRUE.... There is nothing permanent except change.

[Sp5]

(08-21-2014 04:43 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 06:24 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Something about women in my eyes has changed. When i was growing up, i looked at everyone as, "continually getting better" in looks, knowledge, wisdom, etc. With time everything comes.

Now when I see a women over the age of 21, I can't help but realize she is slowly wasting away. It's like watching a build up to a plataeu and then they gradually start declining. Not a fast decline have you, but a slow but noticeable decline. This decline includes basically everything i hold dear to and fear losing. Things like health, sanity, flexibiliy, and mental power. The older the women get the exponential decline gets worse.

Can anyone relate? I guess i'm starting to noticing the wall manifesting around me.

"Now when I see a women over the age of 21, I can't help but realize she is slowly wasting away."

Thanks to the wonder of the Internet, we can now see the results of all this with just a few mouse clicks.

First, click over to OKCupid and search out the women in a five-miles radius of you ages 21-29. Then search out women in the same area ages 41-49.

I can guarantee you that anyone who does these simple searches would have to be insane to claim women get better as they get older. I live in an affluent DC-Baltimore area suburb and the over 40 set is, for the most part, trainwrecks. I'd hate to have to see what the women look like in areas where they don't have the money for upkeep.

And it's not just about looks. When you are older, you realize that older women just don't want men that much. Their desire tapers off in their 40s, quicker than men, and they end up just wanting "companionship" and an ornament/social status proof/beast of burden at some point between 40 and 60.

So when you get to your 40s and 50s, you have to reach down and find those younger women who not only still have desire, but might have genuine desire for you. Might be a narrow range and maybe only found outside the USA.

A thought of Frenchie as a minister:

[AnonymousBosch]

(08-21-2014 06:24 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Can anyone relate? I guess i'm starting to noticing the wall manifesting around me.

It gets worse than you could ever imagine.

I'm 43. Every stunning beauty I've know over the years - and I've known a lot - has been completely eroded by the march of time, which is why I'm a fearless approacher of young beauty, because, understanding it's a finite resource, I'm not intimidated by it. Every stunning 20 year old I look at is simply another short-haired overweight masculinised blob with crow's feet and stretch marks waiting to happen.

As horrific as that sounds, what happens to their insides is far, far worse. The bitterness. The resentment at losing their sexual power. The disappointment in their choices. The feeling that they deserved more than they got, and it's the fault of men for not giving it to them.

Whilst men harden and mature in a way that strengthens their ability to protect and connect with others, women harden into absolute self-interested, seething solitude, and can no longer connect. What happens to single women in their thirties - and those newly-single through divorce - in their thirties, scorches all trace of genuine love out of their hearts, and any coupling after that is purely about her self-interest: babies, money or security.

[The Beast1]

Yeah my mom is starting to go through menopause and shit man the woman has gone insane. I can't stand it. My friend's mom is also bat sh!t insane as well. I can't stand being around them for more than 10 minutes. They still try and pull the, "Do what we say because we're x,y, and z." Yeah like that is going to happen.

I hope this is a generational thing. A few of my buds have said the same things as well.

[Felix88]

Well, when my mother went through menopause she had like extreme mood swings and from what I heard was also pretty insane (I wasn't at home). My relatives was the same, my conclusion is women are insane by default.

[Kieran]

I know of a few late bloomers that are still feminine and beautiful and inspire the same attraction in me that young women do, even though they're now in their mid thirties. Generally though, I like them about 17 - 20. I actually feel more attraction to an average 17-18 year old than I do towards a stunning mid to late twenties girl.

[Travesty]

(08-22-2014 03:43 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

It gets worse than you could ever imagine.

Please stop giving me nightmares AB.

Aren't there any fun cougars out there divorced with husband's money just looking to fuck hard and live it up with a dude when they are older?

Feels like CA has a few.