[Crackshot]

Having done my Oslo sheet here is Stockholm. If some of this seems familiar I apologise, I read the other data sheets before coming and also the data put out by Roosh in particular.


Overview: for any single man that likes northern European women Sweden is a must. For those used to gaming in London/NY/DC etc Sweden will feel like a cakewalk.

The city
Very modern/high-tech. A beautiful city home to companies such as spotify. Everything feels so clean and efficient, and the shopping is impressive with every brand imaginable. It's a highly livable place imo.


Transport
I took the tube everywhere which was efficient and easy to use. No need for cabs imo.

Crime
Unlike Oslo which was extremely dangerous Stockholm was very safe. The police are everywhere and carry guns and do not look like they are messing about. You should have no worries here even in the 'bad areas' which look clean and rich to me. The lack of rapes on the street compared to Oslo means the girls are less scared of being attacked if daygamed.

Language
Everyone speaks good English

The competition
Swedish men are good-looking and into working out however they are far less aggressive and macho and confident than Norwegian men. They are more a smartphones and reading culture whereas Norway is hunting, shooting and fighting. Most Swedish men would do very well abroad and I saw many with black and Asian girlfriends, much more so than the other way around. While foreign women would love them their domestic women seem to think little of them which is sad and somewhat enraging but will be to your advantage particularly if you are northern European or black

The women
The standard is so much higher than the UK that you may end up being blase about very attractive women. Other sheets I read on here said that Sweden had lots of fatties but this was not my experience. In addition to ethnic Swedes the Iranian and east African women look great and did not look conservative however I only dealt with ethnic Swedes.

The Swedish average is a 6 or a 7. Badly dressed with little effort but attractive and in good shape. I would put the UK average at 4 for comparison so a huge uplift in quality. However the top level talent -8,9 and 10 was much lower than Norway for some reason that I could never figure out given how close they are genetically and culturally.

However their personalities are horribly cold almost without exception and they seem to lack humour and passion. If you have Anglo humour and aggression you will do well as they are not used to charm. What is great is everyone speaks English very well.

Day game
Again I read that this was hard but I had no problem here. Conversations at random, asking for directions, etc all led to numbers and instadates however I licked my targets carefully. Alot of people are curious as to why someone would be there nd foreigners from 'cool' places are liked. However they are painfully boring, more so than any other people I have met in my life.

The feminist nation
Sweden gets ragged on alot for rampant feminism and it is no exaggeration that this is the Mecca of feminism. Many of the toilets are not even segregated ny gender! Meaning they have cleaners and guards to stop women being attacked in the cubicles.

Every single Swedish man said 'it has gone too far here' and this is because of the extreme views Swedish women have such as gender is all a social construct etc. On the positive side they believe in easy sex and there is no slut shaming however their political views are unbearably naive.

Clubs
On a worktrip so didn't get to go much but the one time I did go I was impressed by the good gender ratios. I went to opera which was recommended on here. Nightlife is good in Stockholm although I went mainly to bars

Conclusion:
Crappy weather, bland people and liberal feminist views and the lack of any passion being the norm should make Sweden a hellhole.

However If you are here for women they are attractive, open to foreigners from the right places and unlikely to play games. While living here would be tough as the society is very closed and you would probably not want to marry a Swedish woman, for RVF members this must be a top 3 destination for Europe. The easy of day game, ons and the safety and good infrastructure make it an essential visit imo

Will visit Malmo and Gothenburg in future and report on them too

[Sexual Chocolate]

(08-19-2014 06:23 AM)Crackshot Wrote:  

If you have Anglo humour and aggression you will do well as they are not used to charm.

What do you mean by this? They sound like polar opposites. Please explain.

(08-19-2014 06:23 AM)Crackshot Wrote:  

... unlikely to play games.

Does this mean in your experience they weren't flakey? What is your definition of "games"?

[rudebwoy]

Excellent report!

[Crackshot]

@Sexual Chocolate

Swedish men are a bit bland so if you are a hungry Anglo with a bubbly sense of humour and are outgoing you will do very well as you will stick out alot

I would say they are blunt and straightforward. I would describe them as unmanipulative women unused to sophisticated plots and hustlers

[Crackshot]

@Rudebwoy

Thanks

[yaz]

Is there any possible way to live in Stockholm for 2500 USD a month and bang chicks, or is it a total pipedream?

What is the bare minimum amount you need to game on a budget, and I'm talking not drinking at clubs, eating nearly all meals in an apartment, sharing a bathroom in a 3 bed apartment, focusing on day game, etc. etc.

[KC4]

@Yaz It Can be done. A 2 room apartment rental can cost as much as 9000 kr or 7000 not 100% sure but something of that fashion . Then its all about location. The closer to the city the higher the cost. My friend pays about 5000 kr a month for 1 room apartment. you will save lots of money if you decide to cook for your self.

[rudebwoy]

Rudebwoy Stockholm Report - September 2014

Well it had been many years since I last ventured to my fave city on earth, it was a place where I got alot of love and a place that ticked all the right buttons for me. The city is the right size and just seems to have the right mix.
However, due to my laziness, ego, overconfidence and downright stupidity.
I committed 3 cardinal sins for this weekend trip. First off I was too lazy to set up a tinder account or any online dating site ahead of time to pipeline.
Secondly, I booked a hotel on hotwire last minute which was 15 minute walk from Stureplan, one of those secret hotel deals. Lastly, I bought a wingman who I knew I would have to carry and he would be a liability to me.
We landed in Stockholm on the friday morning and made our way to the hotel, right of the bat as the bus drove through the city you could see cuties walking about with little ease. Our hotel was near a university and as we waited for our room to get ready, we sat outside and watch the parade of slim, feminine and cute girls stroll by.
A few hours later after our nap, we headed down to the Stureplan and ended up at vau du ville restaurant for a incredible meal. This place was crazy, majority of the patrons were women and most of them were all decent looking, no fatties and no visible tattoo's on any of these chicks.
Now the downside about this place and the city in general is the cost, it is expensive, very expensive. Our meal was 800Kr, which is 80 pounds sterling and about $150 usd. I am not complaining because it had been a long time since I had such a great meal.
Friday night we headed to the bars, my go to spot I got denied with some BS about locals or members etc. I felt deflated and took it like a bad blow, I had lived at this spot on my previous visits and to be denied on some flimsy excuse sucked, although I have a feeling it wasnt me.
We headed up the street to a place I had seen advertised on thelocal.se site, a bar called Oxid.
The bouncer said something to me in swedish and i replied I am english, I had to show him I.D and then my friend showed him I.D. He replied by saying I am alright to come into the bar but my friend isn't cos he looks like he has been drinking. My friend put up a futile fight because there was no way he was getting in, the bouncer said again that I am alright to enter. I could see my buddy was pissed so i declined, although I was curious to see what was inside.
We ended up at Sturehof, which was playing some amazing funk music but the calibre of people was a notch below.
I walked back to the hotel fuming cos I felt the weekend was ruined and could not be saved.
One thing that was evident was the vibe had changed, the bouncers all wear uniforms now and there was a heavy police presence. The girls are there in droves but they only give you slight glances if they look at you at all. This wasnt the same Stockholm I remembered.

Saturday, we actually got into my go to spot but it had changed. There were cougars in the bar and they looked well past it and I wasnt about to go there. I did have a drink that was pretty cool called Toyko Black, I think it is a japanese version of guiness. Again two beers cost about 150kr, the carlsberg is disgusting.
We left this spot quickly as it was easy to tell it wasn't happening. We pretty much hung out on the street and at this point of time I was thinking of other options outside the Stureplan. The eye candy was crazy, streams of girls in two's or four's walking up and down. Again, if there is a better city in the world for top level chicks then someone has to tell me. I hear Kiev beats it, but I will get there one day just to compare.
My buddy pretty much lost his mind and I was beyond defeated. I was ready to leave on the sunday and catch our connecting flight home. He booked us into the Mornington Crescent hotel right in the heart of the action. For an extra 150kr we got a nice upgrade to executive suite which was pretty cool. This hotel I have stayed before and highly recommend, since it was sunday night we got it at the cheap price of $200 per night. Again I repeat the place is expensive and now it seems you need to spend more than a weekend to make things happen.
Sunday afternoon we had a great lunch at some outdoor place near the hotel, fresh fish and chips which rivalled the same dish I had in Iceland a few years back.
At night we head out to Cafe Opera, sort of a weird setup but they call it industry night. The crowd was a bit weak, I ended up talking to some somali chick who was attractive but a bit overweight for my tastes. Due to an early flight I left the place around 1.30 while my buddy entertained the girl, he arrived back to the room half hour later to tell me the girl was talking about me.

Conclusions:
Good - the girls are top shelf, blondes, brunettes and persians who are my favourite. They are sexy and they know it. They like to go out in packs and the men like to go out in packs as well. It does seem like a odd ritual but who am I to complain.
I hardly saw any visible tattoos on girls and I didn't see any ugly skrillex haircuts or feminist nonsense.
Bad - the place is very expensive, for someone coming from UK it might be less of a hit. For someone coming from North America it is a big hit, you will be bleeding money. I anxiously await my amex bill.
The men are stylish, I had a bit of a chuckle one night. As i walking I saw four men walking towards us wearing blazers, pocket squares and coloured trousers (red, orange).
Ugly - well that would be me haha only kidding. Travelling with a weak wingman can be disatrous.

For any man on this site or in general, this place is a right of passage. Sadly the vibe has changed, the heavy security at bars and police presence leads me to believe something major has gone down over the last few years or so. I went to take a leak in the park and I saw cops hanging out in the park, later on someone had told me about girls getting raped in the same park.

[tonipepperoni]

Without guestlist don't bother with Stockholm.

[Crackshot]

@Rudebwoy

They had the riots in 13 which led to mass police crackdowns which is why you see five-o everywhere. Also they had a wave of rapes carried out by Muslim asylum seekers and immigrants which also led to the crackdown and heavy police presence.

Do you think the fact that Sweden is now much more nationalistic and had problems with Muslims raping women en masse hurt you as a brother? It is highly unfair but understandable I suppose. I must admit that as I can pass for Nordic I didn't experience this problem and I always thought west African looking blacks would do fine but it's possible I was wrong.

C

[rudebwoy]

Crackshot - you have confirmed what I had suspected.

I am off Caribbean heritage, I would say I didn't see many brothas in the Stureplan. When we ate dinner at that restaurant people seem to take notice when we ordered chocolate mousse and espressos at the end of our meals. The Persian girls beside us nursed their beer the entire time we were there.
People also stared at me quite a bit as I strolled around in the daytime with my Canon rebel camera in hand. Laughable considering I saw other tourists with much better cameras than mine.
In answer to your question, the girls seemed much more reserved. Even the local dudes complained the girls aren't easy. I ran into some Jamaican kids living there, they said you get the girls by getting them drunk. That's if they allow you to buy them a drink.
I don't believe the girls are impenetrable, I just needed a better crew to roll with. Seeing three hotties sitting on a bench 3 in the morning looking bored just blows my mind.
The highlight was seeing a blonde hottie walking out of a bar drunk out of her mind. She fell and leaned against the wall, exposing her lovely tanned legs and sexy black underwear. The vultures circled her but she was able to get to her feet, stagger down the street and all I could do is stare at her splendid ass.

[yaz]

Quality is high in stockholm no doubt. I think the hate on scandinavia is due to the high price mainly, and perhaps a fetish for slavic features which seems to be big on the board. There's a lot of competition too from the local men and a ton of foreigners.

It's true that there does seem to be a "soccer girl" manly face even among fit blondes, but for the most part the quality is here is absolutely top notch.

I noticed the police presence as well. It's very heavy, and the harsh drinking laws give the nightlife a tame vibe relative to other places. The only place to purchase alcohol is at the goverment controlled systembolaget, or whatever, and there is only one that is open until 8pm. In regular markets you can only purchase drinks that have a maximum 3.5 percent alcohol content.

[Rang off the Pipe]

Do any of you think that as time goes on, Norway and Sweden will not have a good enough return because of the apparent fear-induced atmosphere? Is it just better to go to a vacation spot in Europe where Scandinavians are known to visit? I'm considering a 2-week trip next year throughout Europe and wondering if it's even worth it to cross over from Denmark instead of going south.

[rudebwoy]

You will never get a true sense of a country until you visit it. So answer to your question is no, again the cost is high in Sweden and Norway which keeps certain groups away.

[KC4]

Black dudes usually do well in Stockholm especially American ones. Next time you're here check out lion bar or dovas. Pretty shady and overpopulated bars but the alkohol is cheap. A beer costs if you take a "stor stark" between 40 and 60 kr. And about the riots. They were caused because the police shot an innocent man dead. And no surprise they got cleared of all charges. I live close by the affected area and i have friends who live there so I think I have a better understanding of what happened there compared to most guys

[rudebwoy]

Who was they guy they shot? As in was he an immigrant!

[KC4]

(09-14-2014 12:04 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Who was they guy they shot? As in was he an immigrant!

He was yes. Its kinda like the situation in the Us were that black kid was shot and there were several riots