[tboz]

I discovered the problem with my game. I approach girls in day game very well and get their number with no problem. But when I take them out, I dont generate enough attraction or comfort. I don't have any interesting topics to talk about either. Hope you experienced PUAs can help me. What do I do to tell interesting topics and generate attraction and comfort on the first date?

[horn]

Be and do something interesting first. The other two are covered in multiple threads here.

[Cobra]

Key thing to keep in mind though is you don't need to be bungee jumping or traveling to exotic places as a default to be interesting.

Being interesting is subjective as I'm also learning. What that means is that you ARE interesting. You just need to believe it. Believe in the things you do for your fun and satisfaction. Have an opinion on these things and share it.

Speaking of default I would say that porn and jacking off to it are not interest generating topics.

[Captain Gh]

My tip to you would be to develop your sense of humor until you get the ball rolling and can make any subject seem interesting. A good start that really helped me was the book Comedy Writing Secret by Mel Helitzer. Also watching some stand up by comedians such as the late Patrice O'neal and Jim Norton will help big time.

From a PUA perspective, the book How to connect with women from Wayne Elise aka Juggler really helped me on expressing myself to make it relevant. I've found that the Roosh-Juggler combo of PUA material to be deadly effective

[BadgerHut]

Troll?

[Dalaran1991]

(08-17-2014 08:52 PM)tboz Wrote:  

I discovered the problem with my game. I approach girls in day game very well and get their number with no problem. But when I take them out, I dont generate enough attraction or comfort. I don't have any interesting topics to talk about either. Hope you experienced PUAs can help me. What do I do to tell interesting topics and generate attraction and comfort on the first date?

If you are not interesting and can not ramble with girls how the hell do you get their number during the day?

Either this guy has some pretty original day game tactic I havent heard of, or

Anyways, going on dates also is not about having interesting things to talk about. Escalation, tonality and engaging the girl are more important. She should be the one doing the talking

[Saweeep]

(08-18-2014 04:03 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 08:52 PM)tboz Wrote:  

I discovered the problem with my game. I approach girls in day game very well and get their number with no problem. But when I take them out, I dont generate enough attraction or comfort. I don't have any interesting topics to talk about either. Hope you experienced PUAs can help me. What do I do to tell interesting topics and generate attraction and comfort on the first date?

If you are not interesting and can not ramble with girls how the hell do you get their number during the day?

Either this guy has some pretty original day game tactic I havent heard of, or

Anyways, going on dates also is not about having interesting things to talk about. Escalation, tonality and engaging the girl are more important. She should be the one doing the talking

He could easily be very good looking, very well dressed or both.

The girls he is approaching could be very low value.

Who knows?

[pitt]

(08-18-2014 04:03 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 08:52 PM)tboz Wrote:  

I discovered the problem with my game. I approach girls in day game very well and get their number with no problem. But when I take them out, I dont generate enough attraction or comfort. I don't have any interesting topics to talk about either. Hope you experienced PUAs can help me. What do I do to tell interesting topics and generate attraction and comfort on the first date?

If you are not interesting and can not ramble with girls how the hell do you get their number during the day?

Either this guy has some pretty original day game tactic I havent heard of, or

Anyways, going on dates also is not about having interesting things to talk about. Escalation, tonality and engaging the girl are more important. She should be the one doing the talking

An inexperienced guy comes on here to ask a simple question which seems very legit and you call him a troll?

I think all of us been through that phase where we don't have much to talk about with new girls. You don't need to be an interesting person to get numbers from hot girls, anybody can do it. I don't think that is fair to be calling younger and inexperienced guys trolls, let's help them out instead.

OP, start reading a lot, travel, find new hobbies, the more experiences you have, the more things you will have to talk about. Some girls are also very talkative, actually the majority of girls I meet tend to talk way more than I do, even though I have more of an interesting life than they have. These girls usually make interaction way easier.

Knowing how to listen sometimes is more important than knowing how to talk, work on both, listening and talking.

[Dalaran1991]

It just seems very contradictory to me. But good for him if he is getting steady dates.

Also no background info on how he approach them, how he got them out on date, where they go, what they do. OP, provide this info next time or you are asking us to do target shooting with blindfold.

Anyway, to help the OP out, there s a nice first date bang recipe on the forum that helped a lot of guys out. Cant find the link but you should be able to do a search.

First, dont tell her explicitly its a date. Too much pressure too early esp for day game.

To make date interesting it needs to be interesting by itself. You need something with high energy and fun to do. Grabbing a drink is cool but unless her attraction level is high not much chance of things happening. Go out picking clothes, target shooting, art exhibition, trying a new sport, dance class, even a stroll around a cool park. Should cost you little and whenever you run out of things to talk about just make a comment about the people or the activity going on.

Remember to escalate. And alcohol. And venue changes at least twice.

If your game is weak avoid bars and clubs. You dont need other guys hitting on her without knowing how to handle cockblocking.

[tboz]

(08-17-2014 09:03 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

Key thing to keep in mind though is you don't need to be bungee jumping or traveling to exotic places as a default to be interesting.

Being interesting is subjective as I'm also learning. What that means is that you ARE interesting. You just need to believe it. Believe in the things you do for your fun and satisfaction. Have an opinion on thesethings and share it.

I understand. But I want to get to a point where I'm getting the girl excited (not necessarily sexually, though that comes later). I feel I need a good script to get things rolling with a female that will eventually lead to the bedroom.

BadgerHut Wrote:

Troll?

Is this guy for real or is HE trolling?

(08-17-2014 09:39 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

My tip to you would be to develop your sense of humor until you get the ball rolling and can make any subject seem interesting. A good start that really helped me was the book Comedy Writing Secret by Mel Helitzer. Also watching some stand up by comedians such asthe late Patrice O'neal and Jim Norton will help big time.

From a PUA perspective, the book How to connect with women from Wayne Elise aka Juggler really helped me on expressing myself to make it relevant. I've found that the Roosh-Juggler combo of PUA material to be deadly effective

Thank you, Captain Gh. I think I would need to read that Comedy Writing book since my humor needs some fine tuning. Can you recommend some good Roosh-Juggler PUA material like you said?

(08-18-2014 09:19 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Anyways,
He could easily be very good looking, very well dressed or both.

The girls he is approaching could be very low value.

Who knows?

Well, I consider myself good looking and I dress well. The girls I target are FOB asian girls, not the conceited americanized ones. So, my target audience is small compared to other girls from other parts of the world.

It's no problem getting numbers from them, texting or taking them out. The problem is that when I take out on a first date I dont generate that attraction. The topics I talk about are travel and food. Sometimes when I escalate, its not done with a certain swag or precision. As a result, many times theres no second date. I need help.

(08-18-2014 09:29 AM)pitt Wrote:  

I think all of us been through that phase where we don't have much to talk about with new girls. You don't need to be an interesting person to get numbers from hot girls, anybody can do it. I don't think that is fair to be calling younger and inexperienced guys trolls, let's help them out instead.

OP, start reading a lot, travel, find new hobbies, the more experiences you have, the more things you will have to talk about. Some girls are also very talkative, actually the majority of girls I meet tend to talk way more than I do, even though I have more of an interesting life than they have. These girls usually make interaction way easier.

Knowing how to listen sometimes is more important than knowing how to talk, work on both, listening and talking.

Thats true, it doesnt take much to get numbers from very fine females.

I am starting to read PUA material. And I think since I'm not working currently that this has something to do with it, I don't know. But I just want to be so engaging that I get girls excited and having fun enough for them to see me again for a 2nd and 3rd date.

But sometimes you got to make up stuff in order to reel girls in, like in certain routines. I just got to find that special formula. I don't want to have interesting conversations, I want to have exciting and engaging ones. It's the only thing that's missing from my game.