[SydneyD]

I was doing some idle thinking and pondering upon this age old question: Why to black women have big butts and why do white women have skinny bulimic-esque backsides?

Of course, it all comes down to the two races having differing genetic codes: white women have skinny-butt genes and black women have phat-ass-juicy-booty genes. But WHY is this so?

WHY did evolution choose to follow this exact path? Why did the Gods see it fit to bless the backside of the African children and forever curse that of the caucasian?

I think I have the answer to this question and it is infact a rather simple one.

Caucasian women come from Europe, a place with a relatively harsh climate and very bitter winters. This extreme cold environment necessitated the caucasian peoples of Europe to develop and to begin wearing clothing for warmth.

This was a great development as it helped the people survive in the icy hell of Europe but however clothing also had a negative aspect.

Clothing meant that women would have to cover up their bodies, the sign of their femininity which they used to attract a decent mate who could take care of her and her children.

But with their bodies covered up almost all the time by loose fitting clothing, white no longer needed curvy bodies and big backsides to express their femininity and to attract a mate because men could not even have a glimpse of those parts anymore.

Therefore, slowly; naturally and eventually, the big butt gene began to disappear and die out from generation to generation until it became as uncommon as it is today.

White women instead began to express their femininity and beauty through other forms such as through jewellery, long flowing radiant hair, multi-coloured eyes and symmetrical faces. This would also explain why White women (Slavic in particular) have arguably a greater percentage of pretty-faced women that other races where the majority of women may fall in the 5 and 6 zone.

So basically, the dawn of clothing meant the end of the white woman's butt. (Also that of the Indian, chinese and any other race or peoples that wore clothes)

African women on the other hand did NOT wear clothing. Before Europeans came to the continent their bodies were largely left uncovered for all to see (blame this on the warm and humid climates or just on a lack of innovation on their behalf, it doesn't really matter)

So since men are visual creatures, they would naturally choose mates from the women who had the curviest bodies and biggest backsides (because that was the most significant sign of femininity and fertility they saw) and so these women with their blessed backsides, who would undoubtedly reproduce more than their skinny black counterparts, passed down their big-ass genes from generation to generation until the gene became as common and widespread as it is today.

This largely applies to Latina women too (and by Latina I mean the women that have the genes of the native tribes of South America). Since the women of most of the native South American tribes wore little clothing, they continued to largely express their feminity and fertility through their bodies (and butts) which is why they have big backsides as well.

In conclusion I will leave a summary of this theory: the size of a woman's ass was determined ages ago by the climate, religion, innovative thinking or any other factor that led to the development of clothing or by any other factor which led their forefathers not developing clothing at all.



What are your thoughts on this?

[kerouac]

Well, your basic assumption is that white women don't have big asses. I've mainly hooked up with white girls throughout my life, and a majority of them had very nice big plump asses. Maybe not Kim Kardashian asses, but I'm not into butts that big anyway.



I'd say the reason black girls tend to have ginormous asses like the following is because black guys simply prefer girls with asses like this, whereas white guys tend to prefer a more medium sized ass.



Ask a white guy vs a black guy which ass he prefers, and I think your answer will lie in the statistics.

[speakeasy]

White women have good asses. Maybe not the extreme asses on some black women, but I don't see any problem with white women's bodies at all.

I think this question should be about Asian women. They are the ones that very rarely have a booty. Whites are intermediate between blacks and Asians on booty size.

I also don't buy the climate theory. The Indians should have big asses then, as well as Vietnamese and Thais.

[SydneyD]

White women are a strange bunch. Yes, some of them have decent backsides but a lot of them don't. For example, big butts are virtually non-existent in Central and Eastern Europe.

I mentioned that climate is not the only factor influencing the size of a woman's butt. Indians developed their form of clothing relatively quickly regardless of the hot climate (perhaps because of religion or even just innovative thinking which I mentioned above) which is why they have flat butts.

I don't know much about Thais and the Vietnamese and whether or not they traditionally wore clothes that covered up most of their bodies but they do share a lot of their DNA with most of the other peoples of South East Asia (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, e.t.c) so perhaps they also inherited the flat-butt gene from them.

Black guys prefer women with ginomous butts because of the theory above. It carries on today because of cultural and social conditioning among black men who view big-assed women as more appealing and as 'real' women

[Fighting888]

From my experience, ass quality by race goes like this.

Black
Latin
White
East/Southeast Asian
Indian/South Asian

[TigerMandingo]

Honestly, if you take Black-American women out of the equation, you'll be left with a decent-ass-sized sample of black women.

Have you interacted with African women, I'm talking Nigerian, Ghanaian, Ethiopian etc? Many of them have normal asses (which I prefer).

[Windom Earle]

(08-04-2014 03:22 AM)kerouac Wrote:  

I'd say the reason black girls tend to have ginormous asses like the following is because black guys simply prefer girls with asses like this, whereas white guys tend to prefer a more medium sized ass.


Ask a white guy vs a black guy which ass he prefers, and I think your answer will lie in the statistics.

I'd attest to this theory. That black ass just looks untoned and cottage cheese-esque. Too much going on, with unflattering dimensions.

I don't mind a big ass, but it has to be big from getting slammed by squats and lunges in the gym, so that you can bounce a coin of that thing.

[PhilE]

Those super sized big booties come DIRECTLY from African diaspora. Most of the biggest asses I've seen came from Liberians, Nigerians and Zimbabwe.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I don't think that's the cause of ass differences, but it does make sense. Of course, it's just speculation.

[Basil Ransom]

Agree with speakeasy. Black girls tend to be a little more muscular than white girls (BMI studies show that a black woman with the same BMI as a white woman has more lean mass). But if white girls squat, thrust and lunge with heavy weight, most can build a very respectable ass too. White American girls just looooove to believe that they have it harder than everyone else, so they like to think they're at some structural insurmountable disadvantage. They also can't imagine putting out effort to catch a man. Putting out effort to passive aggressively compete with other women is a-okay though.

You'll notice that in recent years as big asses became more socially acceptable, more white girls have them, or so it seems. Or they're more visible. I find chicks with big asses have better personalities too - I can't imagine a more alien combination than a very fit woman with a flat ass, but they're everywhere. I find traditional yoga chicks much warmer and open than the pilates or spinning types.

Also, some black women have what's called steatopygia. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steatopygia . Not clear if this trait is a binary one or if it exists on a spectrum.

[Kish]

(08-04-2014 06:07 AM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

From my experience, ass quality by race goes like this.

Black
Latin
White
East/Southeast Asian
Indian/South Asian

I would add Middle Eastern girls somewhere in the middle. There are some Middle Eastern girls that have irresistible PHATTIES.

[Cr33pin]

"Big Butt Theory" The first thing that came to mind when I read that title was a porn spoof of Big Bang Theory with guys dressed up like nerds gangbanging a hot blonde.... Is it bad that thats the way my mind works?

ps. I like big butts and I cannot lie.

[JayMillz]

(08-04-2014 06:07 AM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

From my experience, ass quality by race goes like this.

Black
Latin
White

Latin is a race???

[Dagonet]

This is an r-selection vs. K-selection issue. Most African populations have historically operated on the r-selection model, which means there was more direct "sperm war" competition between males having sex with the same woman. This is why black men on average have bigger penises; it has been sexually selected since a bigger penis can more effectively scoop out competitors' sperm.

The big ass issue is the same thing. With short-term mating preferences rather than a focus on long-term pair bonding, women's pure fertility continues to be selected for. In this case, wider hips and bigger butts that make short-term mating less of a physical risk to the woman, and more likely to produce healthy babies with minimal complications. Plus it's more likely to attract a man interested in short-term mating, so there is a lot of selection pressure making the biggest butts more and more common over time.

[Glaucon]

Big butts turn me off. I like it small (not flat!) But I am attracted to petite girls usually so that it the reason me thinks.

It is interesting how we are the same species but there groups of different evolutionary pathways. Fascinating.

[soup]

I articulated this exact theory a few months ago somewhere on the forum.

It would seem to make most sense.

[soup]

(08-04-2014 03:42 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

White women have good asses. Maybe not the extreme asses on some black women, but I don't see any problem with white women's bodies at all.

I think this question should be about Asian women. They are the ones that very rarely have a booty. Whites are intermediate between blacks and Asians on booty size.

I also don't buy the climate theory. The Indians should have big asses then, as well as Vietnamese and Thais.

Indian and Vietnamese don't dress in almost no clothing like we see in parts of Africa.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

^^^In this case, wider hips and bigger butts that make short-term mating less of a physical risk to the woman, and more likely to produce healthy babies with minimal complications.

Thus, the term "baby-making hips"

[Pride male]

It may have to do with sexual selection. Hundreds and hundreds of years of black men choosing big butts over small butts. Maybe white men choose face over body and black men vice versa.

[speakeasy]

I think for black men, the typical, skinny young white girl body is something of an acquired taste.



Most black men do not like bodies like the above. Show this picture to a bunch of black men and most of them will say these white girls have no ass. If black dudes are judging white girls, they are almost unanimously going to prefer this one over the above:



I used to be same way, was big into phat ass. But the slender small asses on the first pic are a taste I picked up in the last few years and I'd probably go with that type of body now over the phat booty. Though I wouldn't complain about either. I just think long-term, a skinny girl with more subtle curves will hold up better and be less likely to get obese. Phat ass only looks good when the girl is in her 20s. By 30 that shit will be cottage cheese unless she has a good workout regimen, and many women let themselves go so the majority of these "baby got back" girls have a small timeline of being bangable. These chics will be gross as they approach the wall.

[Basil Ransom]

Keep in mind those Jets girls have bigger than average asses (for white girls of similar thinnness).

"Phat ass only looks good when the girl is in her 20s. By 30 that shit will be cottage cheese unless she has a good workout regimen, and many women let themselves go so the majority of these "baby got back" girls have a small timeline of being bangable. These chics will be gross as they approach the wall."

Lol maybe those black guys don't plan on sticking around?

Black infant mortality is a lot higher than whites or Hispanics, suggesting poverty is not necessarily the culprit. So maybe there's a keener desire for a woman whose appearance suggests that she can healthily birth a baby.

For some reason speakeasys 2nd pic keeps cutting off at the eye.

[Enigma]

I posted a thread similar to this previously: The White Girl Booty Theory.

In my two years of painstaking research since then, I've developed the hypothesis that ass size is based almost entirely upon diet -- with activity levels/types also being a determining factor.

My initial observation was based upon the increasing levels of ass in white women in the American Southeast. This is also the region where many black American women originate from.

You could make a case that this part of the country produces the biggest "native" booties in the country. I'm not including Latinas for the sake of this discussion simply because their cultures are a little newer and more insulated in the US.

Typical southern food includes stuff like fried chicken, BBQ pork, fried pig skins, cornbread, macaroni and cheese, buttery grits or mashed potatoes, etc. The food here is overall the fattiest in the US. And the women have the fattest asses.

Now, look over at Southeast Asia. Most of the women don't get attention for their assets. But, in my experience, if you account for height and weight, Filipinas give any race a run for their money. Initially I played with the idea that this was due to the Spanish influence, but not all women here even have Spanish blood.

But then you look at the diets again and it's almost an exact replica of the American south. From the tons of fried chicken and hot sauce all the way to the stuff that most cultures won't touch like hogs legs, frogs legs, gizzards, pork rinds/chicharron. Even sweetened iced tea, which is almost entirely exclusive to these two regions, as far as I know.

So you have two areas on opposite sides of the world but with similar diets producing similar ass. And the foods I described were highly influenced by African slaves/cuisine.

Where else is known for ass? DR, Brazil, Colombia. Notice that they also have a large African influence. On the other hand, a country like Argentina -- which rejected Africans and their culture -- are known for less curves and smaller asses.

But African genes don't explain non-Afro Latinas, white Americans, and Filipinas. That's what leads me to believe the asses are largely based upon the diet. That's why you don't necessarily find the biggest ass on the continent of Africa, because the food brought over by the slaves is obviously highly influenced but not exactly like traditional African cuisine.

[Enigma]

The different preferences between white and black guys is not a race thing, it's an environmental thing. A black guy completely removed from black neighborhoods and black culture isn't going to be attracted to massive asses anymore than a white guy in the same circumstance. It's the same reason that a countrywide acceptance of big ass increased as black and Latin influence on US popular culture increased.

[NY Digital]

(08-04-2014 12:32 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

But African genes don't explain non-Afro Latinas, white Americans, and Filipinas. That's what leads me to believe the asses are largely based upon the diet. That's why you don't necessarily find the biggest ass on the continent of Africa, because the food brought over by the slaves is obviously highly influenced but not exactly like traditional African cuisine.

An ass is pretty much all genetics. Diet doesn't do anything, besides make the woman fatter in different places. In the case of Latinas(Spanish roots), and Brazilians(Portuguese roots), they simply have the genetics for having a big butt.

The ass might get a little bigger from eating more food, but eventually that fat will go to other areas as well.

[speakeasy]

(08-04-2014 12:38 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

The different preferences between white and black guys is not a race thing, it's an environmental thing. A black guy completely removed from black neighborhoods and black culture isn't going to be attracted to massive asses anymore than a white guy in the same circumstance. It's the same reason that a countrywide acceptance of big ass increased as black and Latin influence on US popular culture increased.

Exactly. My taste in body type is more similar to white men's than black men's. But if I grew up in the hood, that would probably not be the case.