[speakeasy]

http://www.npr.org/2014/07/21/333737395/...-not-alone

Quote:

Freelance writer Noah Berlatsky talks about sex in college — or, rather, not having sex in college. Berlatsky was among the 10 percent of students who remain virgins throughout college, and this felt to him like an embarrassment...

[monster]

(07-22-2014 10:31 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

http://www.npr.org/2014/07/21/333737395/...-not-alone

Quote:

Freelance writer Noah Berlatsky talks about sex in college — or, rather, not having sex in college. Berlatsky was among the 10 percent of students who remain virgins throughout college, and this felt to him like an embarrassment...

and all 10% are omega males

[LaserBear]

1 out of 10?
I'm doing my best to make that number closer to 1 in 100.

Hans Dix, I know you're doing your part too.

College RVF members, let's go save the attractive virgins from "embarrassment" this coming school year.

[Suits]

I didn't kiss a girl until I was almost 22. I definitely wasn't an omega, but firmly a beta.

If I'd gone to university straight out of high school and not taken time off, I could have been graduating at 22 and definitely would have graduated as a virgin, had it not been for one particular nymph who had enough of a thing for my "look" the she completely ignored my beta-ness.

It wasn't a lack of desire on my end. I just had no idea how to connect the dots between meeting a girl and getting into her pants.

And it wasn't even like I was ugly or a complete freak. I was decent looking, but poorly dressed and socially awkward.

That's all it took.

If only 10% of college grads are virgins, then all the fatties must be getting laid, because 10% could account for just the socially awkward types alone.

[iop890]

My college in the US in nerdy as fuck(University of Texas @ Dallas), I wouldn't be surprised to find out more than 50% of guys there are virgins.

My former roommate is about to start senior year and is on track to graduate with a B.S. in Perpetual Virginity. My other 3 former roommates are estrogen slugs studying to make video games and living vicariously through me.

I've only met a few guys there that I can confirm have had sex with a human female, all but one are on the basketball team, the other has a girlfriend at UNT he's dated since highschool that CattleRustler has probably banged.

I should add that even a friend of mine that seems pretty alpha and plays on the basketball team is dating a 6 or 7 feminist political science major that wants to be a US Senator.

[Cattle Rustler]

UTD students are incels.

I want to bang an Indian girl, the good looking kind.

[iop890]

You should come by this October for Diwali, they'll all be concentrated in the same area and much more open. Watch out for extreme cockblocking though.

[Travesty]

There is a church in Isla Vista, CA that has offered a grant that completely absolves a UCSB girl of all student loan debt if she remains a virgin by graduation.

No girl has received the grant since 1969.

[speakeasy]

(07-22-2014 11:19 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

There is a church in Isla Vista, CA that has offered a grant that completely absolves a UCSB girl of all student loan debt if she remains a virgin by graduation.

No girl has received the grant since 1969.

Lol, and who examines her hymen to prove it's true?

[Suits]

(07-22-2014 11:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 11:19 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

There is a church in Isla Vista, CA that has offered a grant that completely absolves a UCSB girl of all student loan debt if she remains a virgin by graduation.

No girl has received the grant since 1969.

Lol, and who examines her hymen to prove it's true?

El Mech.

[Travesty]

(07-22-2014 11:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 11:19 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

There is a church in Isla Vista, CA that has offered a grant that completely absolves a UCSB girl of all student loan debt if she remains a virgin by graduation.

No girl has received the grant since 1969.

Lol, and who examines her hymen to prove it's true?

There have been 4 half-grants dispersed in the years of:

1971
1984
1999
2011 (**Note: transgender)

For the preservation of at least anal virginity.

The church conducts the virginity test by using 3 encompassing methods:

1) Confession for Absolution Before the Congregation
2) Hymen Check
3) Polygraph

[mbare]

I read the article. Wow, male hamster rationalization at its best.

As long as you don't smell, I seriously have no idea how you can't get laid, unless you're a hermit.

Especially in college where ratios are usually 2 girls:1 guy. My university had something like 60 percent males, and at the bars it felt like 3 guys:1 girl, and I still managed.

I wonder if that 10 percent virgin stat held true back in the 60's and 70's? If not, it could be one more validation that the top tier guys are getting the lions share of vagina. No worries there.

[Deluge]

I'm not surprised one bit. I read somewhere that half of incoming freshman in the U.S are virgins. People who go to college are more likely to have sex later in life and have less partners overall probably due to their higher socio-economic status and/or IQ, the more selective the college is the more this is the case. I know a few solidly attractive girls even who made it through their first couple years without even sucking a dick (they weren't religious either), and this is at a big school.

[simondice]

Sounds about right, when you go out to college bars, you only really see 10% of guys getting laid that night, maybe less. It's usually the 10% of guys (including RVF'rs ) or maybe less of college guys who get laid a lot. Most get like a 6 gf who will suck their dick for most of college, and the rest don;t get laid.

You also have to recognize that most guys are scared of talking to girls and it's those who are AGRESSIVE who get laid (aggressive is not the same as thirsty btw)

you don't even have to be smooth, caveman game just works.

[Travesty]

Of all my many many male friends in college (party animals) I would say about:
80% 1-2 girls
20% 3-6 girls
5% 6-10 girls
5% 10+ girls

This was in the mid 2000s at a major public party university.

I only knew 3 guys in my college days that for sure laid 10 or more girls.

But those 3 guys probably each nailed 30-60 girls during their college tenures. 1 extremely good looking drummer/artist with massive game, and two very decent looking extremely social guys with massive game.

Many hunkered down with a GF for years including myself stupidly I had 2 GFs that combine ate away 3 years of college.

Remember the average guy has less than 10 chicks in his lifetime.

Lesson is get massive game or join a top frat. Or both.

[Truth Teller]

Makes sense. Just from experience at parties and the like, it seems that about 10% of guys have the skill set to get women into bed. If you look at my fraternity, it also makes sense. I can think of several guys graduating next year who've never been laid. With their lack of game, I don't think it's happening anytime soon. I've pointed one of them to RoK, so hopefully he'll get laid before he graduates.

[simondice]

(07-22-2014 11:39 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

Of all my many many male friends in college (party animals) I would say about 60% laid 60% 1-2 girls
80% 1-2 girls
20% 3-6 girls
8% 3-8 girls
2% 8+ girls

This was in the mid 2000s at a major public party university.

I knew 3 guys in my college days that for sure laid 8 or more girls.

But those 3 guys probably each nailed 30-60 girls during their college tenures. 1 extremely good looking drummer/artist, and two with massive game.

Many hunkered down with a GF for years including myself stupidly I had 2 GFs that combine ate away 3 years of college.

Remember the average guy has less than 10 chicks in his lifetime.

"Guys make sex more complicated than it needs to be." Quote from an ex.

It's because of the media bullshit + thirst that college guys think getting laid is like winning the lottery.

Boy likes girl, girl likes boy, boy and girl vibe, boy gets horny and assumes the male role, leads, doesn't fuck it up and is honest about intent. She tests him (or not) and he stays strong, Brings her back to his/her house/car escalate as much as she lets him. They fuck or he tries again the next time (if she wants to see him again).

How hard is that to learn?

[Travesty]

(07-22-2014 11:48 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

Makes sense. Just from experience at parties and the like, it seems that about 10% of guys have the skill set to get women into bed. If you look at my fraternity, it also makes sense. I can think of several guys graduating next year who've never been laid. With their lack of game, I don't think it's happening anytime soon. I've pointed one of them to RoK, so hopefully he'll get laid before he graduates.

Are you kidding me?

I thought even Christian frats everyone gets laid at least once?

Doesn't every frat have a few pass around sluts so all their guys have some experience under their belts?

I guess I do remember at many frat parties girls would still only go after the top 20% that made moves.

[Travesty]

(07-22-2014 11:50 PM)simondice Wrote:  

How hard is that to learn?

I don't think it is the difficulty.

It is that guys are brainwashed to think their future GF / wife wouldn't go for a guy that gets sexual in the first hour or two of meeting her and keeps pushing for sex at every opportunity. Even if it is shoved in their face over and over they black it out as .... oh just that girl or those girls are slutty, instead of just owning up to what girls really want.

[Suits]

^Judging by the guys I see wearing their homemade frat t-shirts at bars in Collegetown, USA, most frat members are total losers who just joined a frat to try to be cool because they aren't.

[simondice]

(07-22-2014 11:54 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 11:50 PM)simondice Wrote:  

How hard is that to learn?

I don't think it is the difficulty.

It is that guys are brainwashed to think their future GF / wife wouldn't go for a guy that gets sexual in the first hour or two of meeting her and keeps pushing for sex at every opportunity. Even if it is shoved in their face over and over they black it out as .... oh just that girl or those girls are slutty, instead of just owning up to what girls really want.

These guys clearly never read Oscar Wilde

"I am afriad that women appreciate cruelty, downright crelty, more than anything else. They have wonderfully primitive instincts. We have emancipated them, but they remain slaves looking for their masters, all the same. They love being dominated."

-Oscar Wilde, The Picture Of Dorian Grey

and my favorite

"If men knew all that women think, they'd be twenty times more daring." -

Alphonse Karr

[simondice]

(07-22-2014 11:57 PM)Suits Wrote:  

^Judging by the guys I see wearing their homemade frat t-shirts at bars in Collegetown, USA, most frat members are total losers who just joined a frat to try to be cool because they aren't.

I don't know if it's my college or women in general, but guys in frats here don't get that much action, I only know like a handful. If X fraternity has 100 members (roughly an average) I'd say, maybe 20 get laid fairly regularly and out of those 20, 5-6 with different girls, most with social circle LTR's though.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

"Freelance writer Noah Berlatsky talks about sex in college — or, rather, not having sex in college. Berlatsky was among the 10 percent of students who remain virgins throughout college, and this felt to him like an embarrassment."

Noah isn't just a freelancer for NPR. He's a regular contributor over at the Atlantic, where he churns out such feminist-friendly "gems" as "A Short History of Male Feminism," "How Boys Teach Boys to Be Boys," and "There's More to Making Non-Sexist Art Than Not Being Sexist." All his work can be found here.

Berkaltsky is one of the leading voices of The Cathedral. Nothing is ever equal enough or non-sexist enough for Noah. And look at where that mindset led him:

1). No sex during the best years of his life.

2). Becoming a major voice in a new generation of journalists.

Think about that.

As a former journalist, I want people to know that he exemplifies the type of maladjusted outlier that shapes public opinion. The normal people get pushed aside by these types. When feministspeak and politically correct memes get out into the public and you wonder how they got there, remember Noah and is sexless years in college.

And also think of the women he works with, who are often so disturbed they make his sexless plight seem positively normal. These people call right wingers "wingnuts." Hahahaha. That's projection. They're the nuts.

Journalism used to be a blue collar field -- the intellectual side of being a cop or a fireman. Now it's a halfway house for trust fund kids with issues.

Back in the 20th century, sexless (and sexually maladjusted) priests and nuns shaped public opinion about male-female relations, telling us what were "sins." These writers are their modern day equivalent, demanding we kowtow to their ideas of "morality," when they're some of the least normal people around.

I used to look back in anguish at the summer I turned 19. No money. No job. No car. Parents on my ass about my lousy college major. Pregnancy scares with two women. Anxiety issues. Now these are my proudest memories. Why? Because they fall into the category of normal; I made a good life for myself in the end.

Yet I write here by choice, having quit being a voice for the mainstream media. Noah is at the Atlantic reaching millions. That says something about journalism and our society. And it's not good.

[Truth Teller]

(07-23-2014 12:04 AM)simondice Wrote:  

I don't know if it's my college or women in general, but guys in frats here don't get that much action, I only know like a handful. If X fraternity has 100 members (roughly an average) I'd say, maybe 20 get laid fairly regularly and out of those 20, 5-6 with different girls, most with social circle LTR's though.

That's fairly true with my college as well. There's a top 10 or 20%, and then there's everyone else.

[Truth Teller]

(07-22-2014 11:50 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

Are you kidding me?

I thought even Christian frats everyone gets laid at least once?

Doesn't every frat have a few pass around sluts so all their guys have some experience under their belts?

I guess I do remember at many frat parties girls would still only go after the top 20% that made moves.

I wish I were joking, really I do. One of those guys brings around his sorority girl friends and white knights for all of them.

The guys who take action get laid. The guys who don't end the night with their dicks in their hands. All of us have been in both situations. There have been nights where I've been spitting solid game and lost out due to factors beyond my control. There have also been nights where I've done literally nothing right and been successful.

It's a crapshoot, but it's only a crapshoot if you take action.