[chainring]

Any of the 30+ guys here use married guy game? I'm thinking of getting a cheap wedding band and playing the married guy to catch those whores who love the idea that they are seducing another woman's husband.

[oldnemesis]

I am 30+ and married. Typically I do not mention it when doing bars/clubs, and if asked directly, give a vague answer like "it is complicated". Tried to acknowledge it, but in my practice it made things worse - for each female which is turned on by that idea there were at least five which were turned off, so the overall result was negative. It also gives cockblockers an additional powerful excuse to cockblock you not only from their friend, but also from others as well.

However my experience may not be completely relevant to your case. First, I do not wear wedding ring (I don't even have one). Second I only target those who look like a potential ONS, and skip on everyone else as I don't do dates or collect phone numbers. If your goals are different, it may work for you better, but you'll only learn by practice.

[docsedated]

(02-25-2011 07:34 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

I am 30+ and married. Typically I do not mention it when doing bars/clubs, and if asked directly, give a vague answer like "it is complicated". Tried to acknowledge it, but in my practice it made things worse - for each female which is turned on by that idea there were at least five which were turned off, so the overall result was negative. It also gives cockblockers an additional powerful excuse to cockblock you not only from their friend, but also from others as well.

However my experience may not be completely relevant to your case. First, I do not wear wedding ring (I don't even have one). Second I only target those who look like a potential ONS, and skip on everyone else as I don't do dates or collect phone numbers. If your goals are different, it may work for you better, but you'll only learn by practice.

Right on Oldnemesis..................I totally agree that being married hurts rather helps the game unless you are trying to game girls attracted to married guys. .............

@ Chainring : Is there s streak of freak in girls attracted to marrried Guys that I don't know ? Why are ou trying to go after these girls ?

@ Oldnemesis : While we are at the topic , how can I Improve my game,I am married +................ I used to tell the girls that I am separated , that didn't work well, Now I either don't tell them any thing at all and give vague answers about my relationships etc......like I have 3 wifes , 4 girlfriends and have 10 kids etc.....I think it's important to undersatnd that one shouldn't share any kind of personal Info with potential targets...

Oldnemesis it's good to know that you work on ONS model, This is exactly what my game has evolved to after wasted hours on getting numbers, going on dates etc , I would appreciate your input........... on what angles to play in my situation ?

[chainring]

(02-26-2011 12:43 PM)docsedated Wrote:  

@ Chainring : Is there s streak of freak in girls attracted to marrried Guys that I don't know ? Why are ou trying to go after these girls ?

Just exploring the possibility. Might be good for when I'm in crowds where the majority of people are older and more likely married - the rationale being that married women are more likely to cheat with a married man rather than a single man because she knows he will be discrete because his marriage is also at stake.

[MiXX]

(02-26-2011 02:10 PM)chainring Wrote:  

(02-26-2011 12:43 PM)docsedated Wrote:  

@ Chainring : Is there s streak of freak in girls attracted to marrried Guys that I don't know ? Why are ou trying to go after these girls ?

Just exploring the possibility. Might be good for when I'm in crowds where the majority of people are older and more likely married - the rationale being that married women are more likely to cheat with a married man rather than a single man because she knows he will be discrete because his marriage is also at stake.

I see what you mean, but in actuality, married women cheat for the excitement and thrill of doing what is forbidden. I never tell a woman I am married (I am not of course), if anything I say I am not marriage material and enjoy my adventurous lifestyle. I have banged many married women in the last 5 years, and one was a few weeks shy of getting married.

Women, married or not, are attracted to what is hard to get and desirable by other women. The more forbidden she is led to believe it is, the more she desires it. The trick is to lead her to give in to her temptations.

Be the snake that gave Eve the apple...

Also, look at women in shopping malls. See how they all smile at shoes that are outside their budget and cannot have, but every woman wants?



Mixx

[Luckystar]

(02-25-2011 07:34 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

I am 30+ and married. Typically I do not mention it when doing bars/clubs, and if asked directly, give a vague answer like "it is complicated". Tried to acknowledge it, but in my practice it made things worse - for each female which is turned on by that idea there were at least five which were turned off, so the overall result was negative. It also gives cockblockers an additional powerful excuse to cockblock you not only from their friend, but also from others as well.

However my experience may not be completely relevant to your case. First, I do not wear wedding ring (I don't even have one). Second I only target those who look like a potential ONS, and skip on everyone else as I don't do dates or collect phone numbers. If your goals are different, it may work for you better, but you'll only learn by practice.

You sly dog. I had a feeling about you ON.

[oldnemesis]

(02-26-2011 12:43 PM)docsedated Wrote:  

@ Oldnemesis : While we are at the topic , how can I Improve my game,I am married +................ I used to tell the girls that I am separated , that didn't work well, Now I either don't tell them any thing at all and give vague answers about my relationships etc......

IMHO saying you're separated here in US is even worse than saying you're married as it implies she dumped you (it is completely opposite in Russia though). Even "My GF got fat so I dumped her" is better than that.

In my experience it is very rare when I'm being asked directly about my relationship status, something I address to the ways I behave (for example, I have never asked a girl what does she do, where she lives or what is her relationship status, and generally avoid direct questions at all - I am not interested in her persona), so it looks like they don't feel comfortable asking me either. Sometime it comes out in a way like "Why aren't you married/Why didn't you marry a Russian girl" kind of question. Answering "its complicated" and refusing to elaborate typically works for me. However in all cases I got SNL during the night game she never asked me about my relationship status - so I consider this question the signal to terminate the interaction.

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Oldnemesis it's good to know that you work on ONS model, This is exactly what my game has evolved to after wasted hours on getting numbers, going on dates etc , I would appreciate your input........... on what angles to play in my situation ?

On spots and numbers. In a typical environment there is limited amount of chicks which are open to ONS, and probably only up to 1/5 of them are opened to have ONS with you. This means talking to a girl for an hour and getting a phone number is a complete waste of time and effort. In some cases it may go further if you refuse to take her phone number (which is what I do), but the probability is low. Being able to correctly guess who's open to ONS, then properly positioning yourself so she can "approach" you and refusing approaches from anyone else seem to be key to success here.

Also there are places which tend to attract larger than usual amount of women open to ONS. Those places, however, are specific to individuals (for example, there are bars which are ONS Mekka but only if you're black as the ladies go there to hook up with brothas). Finding those spots in your area which work the best for you takes time, but is very important for the overall success.

[chainring]

(02-26-2011 05:22 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Women, married or not, are attracted to what is hard to get and desirable by other women. The more forbidden she is led to believe it is, the more she desires it. The trick is to lead her to give in to her temptations.

Be the snake that gave Eve the apple...

Also, look at women in shopping malls. See how they all smile at shoes that are outside their budget and cannot have, but every woman wants?

Mixx, you're the Yoda of pickup.

I'm gonna have to reflect on this post and see if I can extract some nuggets from this.

[MMM]

As a married guy, I've been pleasantly suprised at the number of women who'd sleep with me even though I'm married. If I could go back in time, I'd tell my younger single self to tell the girls i met that I was married. The benefits? An instant excuse to ditch them for a hotter date; lowered commitment pressures; the "affair" vagina tingle factor; and the lessened relationship drama.