[Bones]

I keep getting stuck with make-outs and phone numbers, but have not been able to close. I have no problem getting to that point but I have a gap in my game to get it to the next level. For example, last night I approached a girl and made out with her within a few minutes on the dance floor. Her friend did not try to cockblock, but after a while she told me she had to find her friend who had wandered off. I left to pursue other prospects since I didn't want to rely on her coming back, and stand there like a chump. I saw her later as I was waiting to leave after last call, but I did not pursue her because I did not want to chase her down. I'm not sure that was the right move though. Maybe I should have reapproached and tried to hook a way back to her place? Or would getting her number have been a waste of time? Thoughts?

[MiXX]

(10-29-2011 11:49 AM)Bones Wrote:  

I keep getting stuck with make-outs and phone numbers, but have not been able to close. I have no problem getting to that point but I have a gap in my game to get it to the next level. For example, last night I approached a girl and made out with her within a few minutes on the dance floor. Her friend did not try to cockblock, but after a while she told me she had to find her friend who had wandered off. I left to pursue other prospects since I didn't want to rely on her coming back, and stand there like a chump. I saw her later as I was waiting to leave after last call, but I did not pursue her because I did not want to chase her down. I'm not sure that was the right move though. Maybe I should have reapproached and tried to hook a way back to her place? Or would getting her number have been a waste of time? Thoughts?

Dude, whenever you are making out with a girl, you hang on tight until you get her to your place, your car, or back alley. If she has to "go look for her friend" grab her by the lower back, and plant another wet, tongue kiss in her mouth and suggest that you go to your car, bathroom, back alley for a quickie!!

You let that pussy get cold, and if you have to push, push, push (after a heavy make-out)...to get it done. so be it!

Mixx

[Bones]

Good point, I'll have to remind my self to escalate, and push for more.

[Timoteo]

If she says some shit like, "I can't leave my friend," tell her that her friend is an adult, and can find her way home on her own. But say it with a smile - don't be ill with it or you could turn her off. Just make your desire to get her somewhere alone obvious.Then it's up to her.

[ccurtis189]

(10-29-2011 11:49 AM)Bones Wrote:  

I keep getting stuck with make-outs and phone numbers, but have not been able to close. I have no problem getting to that point but I have a gap in my game to get it to the next level. For example, last night I approached a girl and made out with her within a few minutes on the dance floor. Her friend did not try to cockblock, but after a while she told me she had to find her friend who had wandered off. I left to pursue other prospects since I didn't want to rely on her coming back, and stand there like a chump. I saw her later as I was waiting to leave after last call, but I did not pursue her because I did not want to chase her down. I'm not sure that was the right move though. Maybe I should have reapproached and tried to hook a way back to her place? Or would getting her number have been a waste of time? Thoughts?

I have the same problem. In fact, a few weeks ago I made out with a girl on the dance floor and then she gave me her number telling her to hit her up when the club closes. So I thought I'd leave her alone and pursue other prospects for a while. Bad idea, she ended up hooking up with another dude later in the night.

[ImmoralPsychology]

Yeah, after failing to escalate enough times, you finally get it through your head that you really need to do it. (I still forget sometimes though. LOL)

My take on it is this though. When a girl says she has to go find her friend, it can be a) out of sincere worry for her friend's whereabouts, b) is not really worried but using it as an excuse to get away from you - maybe because she doesn't trust herself and doesn't want to feel like a slut, or c) she just didn't like the way you kiss.

a) If she is genuinely worried about her friend's whereabouts, it's going to be near-impossible to keep her with you without kidnapping her.
b) If she simply wants to get away from you because she is starting to think of her behavior as slutty and feeling guilty about it or worried she'll let herself get taken to the next level, you need to build comfort and let her know somehow that you don't see her as just a slut. Maybe some patterning is in order here. Chemistry, connections, or??? Get on her emotional level and get her to stop thinking. You've got to pull out whatever ASD-killer you need and think is appropriate here.
c) Fixing this will only come with more experience kissing. If you already have experience, maybe you need to pay more attention to how the woman is responding and adjust your style. It's hard to guess though because some women like sloppy wet kissing and others hate it while some like drier, less sloppy kissing. Start with drier kissing and see how sloppy get gets before going all wet on her. And don't tickle her tonsils. Not a lot of girls dig the gag reflex.

Just my take.

[Renberg]

Bump. I'm attempting to revive this thread because lately, I have been going on dates, hooking up with girls, getting them naked, but can't close. Most recently, I was in a car with a girl in an area where people walked by every now and then -- and she'd pat my dick every now and then while we were kissing and I was feeling her up -- but she wouldn't go further. I regret not putting her hand down my pants, but is that usually what it takes? In the future, what do I have to do in order for a girl to willingly grab my cock while escalating?

[slothpiece]

Pull it out, put your hand on the back of her head and guide her head to your knob. Don't be afraid of just putting it in her face. Her hormones will take over in a lot of cases.