[cardguy]

Serious question.

We need to define our terms.

I support the right for women to have abortions, easy divorces and equal opportunities in school and at work.

And I suspect most of you do as well.

So - when we say we are against feminism. We have to be clear what we mean - otherwise our enemies will pick whatever definition is easiest for them to attack.

So - what part of feminism is it that you oppose?

The only thing that I really hate is the 'fat people are beautiful' bullshit.

What about you?

[TheFinalEpic]

The gender role opposition by most feminists.

That being that it is perfectly acceptable for a woman to take on tasks and work that was initially meant for men. There are physical differences between men and women, and they are just better suited for tasks that are by nature, less physical.

We should be the breadwinners, the providers, and the proverbial "hunter gatherers" our ancestors were, and there's far too much pussification of men in western cultures to accomplish these goals and tasks that were set out for us since the beginning of man.

[Renberg]

I am very much against the hypocrisy of Feminism, as Roosh explains, in the sense that women want equality yet still expect chivalry. They want the best of both worlds.

[Charlemagne In Sweatpants]

We are against feminism that is anti-femininity.

[user10726]

Quote:

equal opportunities in school and at work

I think women do have equal opportunities at this point, but they don't want to put any effort in, they want to be made CEO because they are women.

[Courage Reborn]

fuck if they can agree on it

[turkishcandy]

Let's look at the term itself. 'Feminine-ism'. Why not 'equalism' since they claim they defend gender equality? Because this misguided ideology is based on the idea that it is justified to elevate women and hold men back in order to remove the effects of the so-called patriarchy.

So I define feminism as all the means that support affirmative action/positive discrimination. Feminism promotes gender inequality for the purpose of consequently creating equality. They think ends justify the means, but not me.

So equalism (also what is right and logical) = promoting equal rights and opportunities.

Feminism = mandating total gender equality by promoting privileges for women and gender-based laws and policies.

[soup]

I don't like calling the other side feminists because to me, feminism means acknowledging that femininty exists and also working to promote that in women instead of trying to make women act like men.

I call the other side "haters" " man-haters" "jealous" etc.

[kosko]

Fat.

[cardguy]

lllolzoolzolllozlolllooooozzzlololozlozlz

[soup]

Kosko for the win.

It really comes down to us versus the gluttonous desire of a girl's stomach.

[Hector_St_Clare]

I'm strongly opposed to abortion rights, I don't know about the rest of you. I consider abortion, except when necessary for health reasons, to be equivalent to killing a baby.

[cardguy]

Serious question.

What about jerking off?

[Teedub]

Abortions and easy divorces?

Especially the latter...you're in the wrong forum mate.

[soup]

(05-13-2014 04:46 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

Serious question.

What about jerking off?

My man derailing his own thread

[Wadsworth]

(05-13-2014 04:15 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

So - what part of feminism is it that you oppose?

1) They promote a biased, revisionist version of history.
2) They consider male identity a problem to be fixed, without ever asking if female identity has problems.
3) They believe they're the ones to "fix" male identity.
4) They knowingly publish irresponsible, factually incorrect "research."
5) They go wild over female rape, but don't give a fuck about male rape.
6) They profess their opposition to domestic abuse, but go wild when you mention that domestic abuse isn't actually a gendered problem.
7) They promote female reproductive rights, but oppose male reproductive rights.
8) They excuse female criminality with all manner of rationalization, but characterize male criminality as "male violence."
9) The majority of feminists have fought to keep alimony and child support legally enshrined, and only appear to oppose it when women have to pay.
10) They consider the rights of women in other countries more important than the rights of men here.
11) They believe a woman shouldn't be judged a slut for wanting "responsibility-free" sex, but believe a man should be judged a deadbeat for wanting it.
12) They'd prefer to attention whore at events like slut walks rather than simply discussing a topic rationally.
13) They presume disagreement with them is akin to sexism/misogyny.
14) They attack you professionally and try to destroy you for disagreeing with them
15) They deny female agency, blaming female choices instead on a patriarchy. This applies from career moves to starring in porn.
16) They believe a sexual encounter between two drunken individuals makes the male, but not the female, a rapist.
17) They demanded the vote without demanding the responsibility that accompanied the vote, and have never once considered that unfair.
18) They politicized a nation-wide "war-on-women" rhetoric just because people objected to paying for their birth control.
19) They promote the idea that men and women are the same, and deny such ideas as evolutionary psychology or any notion that men and women are different.
20) They call a male defending himself against a female aggressor "violence against women."
21) They have broken the family courts.

[aphelion]

Ripped this from Reddit. Can't find the original post, but it might be one of the best things I've ever read on the topic.

--
Feminism in the West is the idea that (speaking broadly) the freest, richest, healthiest, most idle, safest group of females who ever lived suffer from a form of oppression that must be confronted and ended.

The specific men perpetrating this crime cannot be identified. Instead, all men collectively bear this guilt, and the price must be paid at that level, with compensation owed to women generally as a result. The compensation will be of a changing type and amount, depending on circumstances. The duration of compensation owed is similarly left open, until the crime ends.

The people charged with determining whether the crime continues and what is owed will be a mix of university faculty, state administrators, and activists receiving government grants. Those people will have salaries and status as important people only so long as the crime is deemed to continue and compensation must be paid.

Does anyone start to see why the crime never seems to be lessening, despite the increasing levels of freedom, wealth, health, idleness, and safety women in the West enjoy?

The people in charge of the agenda have zero incentive to say, "Hey, things are getting so much better for gals, our work should start winding down in the next few decades!" It is not surprising, therefore, that not only is that not said, but instead, you hear increasingly hysterical (word choice adopted with full knowledge of its origin) screams that things remain awful for women.
---

[Renberg]

(05-13-2014 04:46 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

Serious question.

What about jerking off?

All for it.

[tylerdurden1993]

(05-13-2014 04:46 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

Serious question.

What about jerking off?

What about every unfertilised egg that women bleed out every month?

[darklightdispatch]

(05-13-2014 06:00 PM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 04:46 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

Serious question.

What about jerking off?

What about every unfertilised egg that women bleed out every month?

In case you and Cardguy aren't being facetious...abortion is fundamentally different from masturbation and menstruation because abortion destroys a developing life. Egg or sperm cells on their own aren't an embryo/fetus or whatever until joining with each other.

[WD-40]

(05-13-2014 04:15 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

So - what part of feminism is it that you oppose?

This might seem like a rather surprising thing to say here, but I am not opposed to feminism in the slightest.

Feminism in and of itself is merely an ideology and as such an abstract theory that I can find interesting and at times even quite fascinating, just as I find other ideologies, political theories and religions to be fascinating topics of inquiry.

It isn't feminism that that is responsible for fucking things up for us men, simply because isms aren't moral agents. Only a moral agent can bear responsibility.

So if fingers are to be pointed, the woman is where they are to be pointed at.

[Kingsley Davis]

A shit tester.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Feminism ine one picture.

[Vacancier Permanent]

A more disturbing pic of a feminist:

[DJ-Matt]

And a butthurt xjoane article to go with it:
http://www.xojane.com/issues/my-picture-...inist-meme


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