Quote: (02-03-2011 08:11 PM)Fisto Wrote:
Today was a disappointing day. I just read on Roissy that he defines (and most of his followers seem to agree) that being an Alpha male means nothing more than being attractive to women. I posted this comment early on in retort to some condescending little moron named Xsplat who was saying we who defined the Alpha male as something much more needed to get it through our "bony skull plates" that it was only about women.
Roosh, Mixx, and others, where do you weigh in on this?
I think the problem is that you have a particular belief about what it is to be "alpha" or "beta". But as the term is evolving in context and meaning, many here may have similar ideas, others may not. I posted in another thread the origin of the term:
http://www.huxley.net/bnw/
But the term has since been used to describe a part of animal behavior. And, eventually, to human social biology. Today, we use it here mainly in regards to swooping girls. I would say the way you are using it is quite distinct from the original context of the book - not that it really matters.
The superficial reference in the book, alpha's are humans engineered and cultivated to be the top and no deviation is allowed hence no choice. Each group knows their place and their role. If not, they are pressured to conform and eventually outcasted. The way I interpret how many of you guys use it is about "choosing" to always assume the dominant/superiority role which is again a bit different.
Anyways, all this means we probably all have varying ideas of what it means to be "alpha".
For instance, some guys seem to describe being alpha more like
1. being a bully...
2. or an abusive control freak...
3. doing whatever you feel like and not caring what other's think...
etc.
I personally don't focus on "being alpha". I just want to continue having great times with family and friends, traveling, swooping girls, expanding my current ventures or starting new ones and finding novel ways to do it all "better".
PS. In Brave New World, alphas are discouraged from having any emotional ties. No one should be mourned when they die. Also, alphas (both men and women) are expected to be promiscuous, no one belongs to anyone sexually.