[Sonsowey]

In the crazy girls thread, some people have shared really surprising stories. A girl you were seeing jerked off a dog, a girl you were seeing left skidmarks on your clothing. Other people here have been falsy accused of crimes by exes, been told lies about pregnancy in weird attenpts at mind games, etc.

To me, having standards of behavior is really important, it is more self degrading to put up with bad behavior than it is bad to be without sex. It seems like a real sign of bad thirst to be with girls who act so crazy. Part of an abundance mentality is knowing that, not only are there other girls out there, there are others out there who behave better.

Just like you won't consider girls who fall below a certain standard of beauty, you should not accept girls who fall below a certain standard of behavior. You should have more self respect than to hang out with crazy girls just to get a nut.

[AneroidOcean]

I really agree with you. I think you can't just point out directly the thirst, though.

If these guys were in some kind of semi serious or serious relationship with the girl that's definitely not a good thing.

However, if the guy is just fucking the girl, fuck-buddy/booty call type girl? That makes a little more sense.

If you're seriously pursuing a girl with behaviour that doesn't meet reasonable standards, you should question what you're doing. You should consider that maybe you have low self esteem.

Often how picky I am is questioned in person, but I have what I think are reasonable standards for a girl, not just in the looks department, but physical fitness, to some minimal degree style, fiscal responsibility, respectful, etc...

The best way to enforce reasonable standards for female behaviour is to always be willing to walk away and I think once guys get a taste of that vagina they are often much less willing to walk away. You've gotta be always willing to walk away.

If you wouldn't let your good friends/family get away with poor behaviour, why would you let the girl who you're sticking your dick into get away with it?

[Rawmeo]

Because some guys are afraid to be alone / lose a girl / imagine her getting fucked by someone else. Sometimes you'd just better get a pair of balls on and be the boss.

[Dantes]

Most guys are starved for pussy, particularly in the US. They compromise their frame and alter their threshold for acceptable standards in women. Having high standards is related to frame, not pedestlizing woman and strong inner game. If you truly believe you deserve a high quality woman, you will hold her to high standards. If you don't, you will put up with all kinds of nonsense.

[Sebastian]

Here is the bitter pill. If you were with a crazy chick, you can't just blame her. Yes it's your fault too.

What's the difference than women bitching about meeting a douche after douches.

Women tend to get together and just blame the men. As a Man, we should take responsibility for our own results.

[speeddemon]

(10-08-2014 07:49 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

Most guys are starved for pussy, particularly in the US. They compromise their frame and alter their threshold for acceptable standards in women. Having high standards is related to frame, not pedestlizing woman and strong inner game. If you truly believe you deserve a high quality woman, you will hold her to high standards. If you don't, you will put up with all kinds of nonsense.

Is the US really that bad for everyone? I live in the US currently, and I want to think that game + money + decent body is what you need, but I'm not even sure if that would be enough here any more.

[L M McCoy]

(10-08-2014 07:50 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

Here is the bitter pill. If you were with a crazy chick, you can't just blame her. Yes it's your fault too.

What's the difference than women bitching about meeting a douche after douches.

Women tend to get together and just blame the men. As a Man, we should take responsibility for our own results.

wut?

[YossariansRight]

Thirst = no standards. No standards = approval of females acting worse than animals in heat.

Any man that falls into the cycle is just as culpable as the fuck pigs they service.

[YossariansRight]

(10-08-2014 07:54 PM)speeddemon Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 07:49 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

Most guys are starved for pussy, particularly in the US. They compromise their frame and alter their threshold for acceptable standards in women. Having high standards is related to frame, not pedestlizing woman and strong inner game. If you truly believe you deserve a high quality woman, you will hold her to high standards. If you don't, you will put up with all kinds of nonsense.

Is the US really that bad for everyone? I live in the US currently, and I want to think that game + money + decent body is what you need, but I'm not even sure if that would be enough here any more.

YMMV on that. The virus is widespread.

[Saweeep]

Some people just enjoy being on roller coasters all the time.

[Travesty]

(10-08-2014 07:54 PM)speeddemon Wrote:  

Is the US really that bad for everyone? I live in the US currently, and I want to think that game + money + decent body is what you need, but I'm not even sure if that would be enough here any more.

Yes this work still in the U.S., the key is living in the right place and having logistics.

A handful of pussy rich major cities and college towns are where it's at. Stay away from suburbs, rural areas, cities like Denver(Menver) etc...

[kaotic]

There is definitely a thirst epidemic in the US. I constantly see dudes with girls that I ask "is he really with that ugly/fat/crazy bitch ?"

[Sonsowey]

The thing is many girls need to be disciplined, if you call out their bad behavior, many will improve it and be thankful for you doing it. That is, if they actually value and respect you as a man.

Have you ever had a girl cry apologetically after you call her out for unacceptable behavior? I have had girls tear up and say things like "I am so sorry I dont know what I am doing sometimes please forgive me I promise I will behave better please."

Discipline can work.

[Dantes]

Most women need and are lost without a strong masculine presence to provide reason, structure and guidance.

[robreke]

(10-09-2014 05:45 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 07:54 PM)speeddemon Wrote:  

Is the US really that bad for everyone? I live in the US currently, and I want to think that game + money + decent body is what you need, but I'm not even sure if that would be enough here any more.

Yes this work still in the U.S., the key is living in the right place and having logistics.

A handful of pussy rich major cities and college towns are where it's at. Stay away from suburbs, rural areas, cities like Denver(Menver) etc...

Travesty,

What are some good 'pussy rich' US cities? I'm in mid Mississippi and considering a change. I probably come across 1 -3 good looking girls a day...but all aren't approachable. I was thinking Dallas but would like any of your thoughts.

[dholland662]

One thing that I think can be confusing is that there is no longer a set of standards for female behavior. Even the manosphere is somewhat guilty of this as information can be conflicting.

Articles about how women are always the same, using the term submissive which tends to have a certain connotation (when I first heard it I immediately thought of the Asian Doll stereotype but I know better now), articles on how it is female nature to want adoration and belonging, articles decrying women for being conformists and attention whores, articles talking about how alluring female vulnerability is, and then again articles showing disdain for insecure women.

Now naturally these are all differences in degrees. For example, women wanting positive attention is healthy and normal but a woman wanting attention for its own sake and doing whatever classless thing she can to get it is attention whoring BUT I do think some kind of unified basic standard should be codified. It can even be something as simple as the girl valuing reciprocal altruism in the relationship but I do think there needs to be something.

[nek]

(10-11-2014 05:19 PM)dholland662 Wrote:  

One thing that I think can be confusing is that there is no longer a set of standards for female behavior. Even the manosphere is somewhat guilty of this as information can be conflicting.

The standards are in your gut. Be VERY honest with yourself, and trust it. And yes, you alluded to it, degree matters.

[WestIndianArchie]

Real rap, sometimes you don't realize how fucked up a chick is until your close to fucking her. After you bust, maybe that moment of clarity happens, or you rationalize it to keep getting a hit of that drug.

It's easy to keep your principles when you're not balls deep.

But bottom line you're right. It's important to suss out a chicks issues as soon as possible. Even when they're deceptive.

WIA

[BlurredSevens]

(10-09-2014 05:22 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Some people just enjoy being on roller coasters all the time.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but there is a lot of truth here.

Humans thrive on having a challenge to overcome, and some guys find this in relationships with crazy girls.

(10-09-2014 05:45 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

Stay away from suburbs, rural areas, cities like Denver(Menver) etc...

Haha why the random Denver hate? The place is crawling with laid back horny fit white girls.

[dholland662]

(10-11-2014 05:54 PM)nek Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 05:19 PM)dholland662 Wrote:  

One thing that I think can be confusing is that there is no longer a set of standards for female behavior. Even the manosphere is somewhat guilty of this as information can be conflicting.

The standards are in your gut. Be VERY honest with yourself, and trust it. And yes, you alluded to it, degree matters.

In my gut it is simply being nice and being stable. Stability not just in mentality but also in terms of the stability of the relationship.

Pointing out attention whoring is important because it is highly correlated with being an unstable partner who will leave for a better deal.

Being vulnerable is appealing because it means she needs stability and will be devoted. Being insecure means she is after validation and short term highs.

Actually... one way of putting it is K type versus R type. The K type girl is the girl who wants positive attention but decides to get it in a positive manner. The R type girl simply wants it now.
The K type girl may have insecurities about being unwanted and alone like all women but she doesn't let them run her life, the R type girl does.

Well this was productive

[Saweeep]

(10-11-2014 06:15 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(10-09-2014 05:22 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Some people just enjoy being on roller coasters all the time.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but there is a lot of truth here.

Humans thrive on having a challenge to overcome, and some guys find this in relationships with crazy girls.

Totally serious.

[Akula]

(10-09-2014 11:07 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

The thing is many girls need to be disciplined, if you call out their bad behavior, many will improve it and be thankful for you doing it. That is, if they actually value and respect you as a man.

Have you ever had a girl cry apologetically after you call her out for unacceptable behavior? I have had girls tear up and say things like "I am so sorry I dont know what I am doing sometimes please forgive me I promise I will behave better please."

Discipline can work.

This is pretty true. A couple mini-relationships ago my Russian girl told me "you need to be strict with me" including basically not letting her go to clubs (!). I called her out on her shit every time and she clearly respected me a bit more for it.

Also had a few girls cry and tell me they were sorry, they will be better etc. Not that I believed them

(10-11-2014 06:15 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(10-09-2014 05:45 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

Stay away from suburbs, rural areas, cities like Denver(Menver) etc...

Haha why the random Denver hate? The place is crawling with laid back horny fit white girls.

All the Denver threads are pretty down on that city for gaming. Think the 'horny fit white girls' thing is largely a myth, and you've got serious competition for the few good chicks there from all the fairly alpha outdoorsmen/skier/'mountain men' types too.