[LaserBear]

(05-09-2014 03:52 AM)Hans Dix Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 06:54 PM)Switch Wrote:  

Is it best to join a frat? Or no?

I highly recommend it. While it's definitely not for everybody, a lot of guys looking to crank up their game on multiple levels in college will benefit from joining.

If you don't want to/can't afford it that's fine, just remember there are two types of people who DON'T join fraternities: GDIs and Non-Greeks

Non Greeks are the guys who just feel like the whole scene just isn't for them. They may have financial conflicts, or they just straight up don't feel like it. They may have friends that are Greek, or go over to the houses often, they just aren't members. They have no problem with fraternities as a whole. Many of my closest friends are non Greeks.

A GDI (God damn independent) is a person who goes out of their way to constantly bash on Greek culture. They think they're the shit by constantly bragging about how they didn't have to buy their friends or how frat guys are just all dirty creeps. These are the same guys who beta orbit girls who my friends and I wouldn't look twice at. To sum it up nicely: They just don't get it.

Hans has it right.
If it works for you financially and socially, do it. But don't force it. Find a group you work with and go there.
Fraternity life will make game easier for you... but isn't an end all.
I'd slept with more girls as a highschooler than most of the guys in a couple of the frats I looked into had in their entire life.
Its not a requirement... but it will definitely open doors.

I ended up joining none... the pledge process was too time consuming and cut into my gym and fitness routines too heavily among other issues.
I have close Greek and non Greek friends... and sleep with Greek and non Greek girls.
Just avoid becoming the militant geed who hates all frats and isolates himself from valuable social groups as a result... or the fraternity die hard who refuses to acknowledge that life, pussy, or money making opportunities exist outside of Greek lettering.
Both of these mentalities cost you potential lays, friends, and memories because you're closing doors in your own face for no reason.

[AntiTrace]

Joining a frat is easy mode. Do it if you can swing. Be warned though, I've seen many frat boys turn into complete betas they second they graduate college and the pussy isn't literally being thrown at them.

Pussy in a frat is like meat in a supermarket. When your hungry, you go to the supermarket and get your meat. That's all good, until the supermarket closes. Then where are you going to get your meat? You have no idea how to hunt. You go out and try to hunt, but your so out of practice that it is just pathetic. Eventually a small local corner store opens up (you get a girlfriend), and you rely on that to get your meat.

So join a frat if you can swing it, but still go out there and game and push your boundaries and learn to understand what you are doing. That frat isn't going to last forever. Not to mention if you have solid game and you are in frat, you will clean up.

Also bear in mind that you still need some level game to pull even if you are in a frat. A frat gives you access to pussy (most important) and higher value in the girls mind (frat guys are special for some reason). If you go full beta, your still not getting laid in a frat.

[Truth Teller]

I will say that joining a frat was a good decision. However, I'm with one of the smaller ones (AEPi, the Jewish one for those of you who don't know it), so we don't have a ton of pussy thrown our way. We don't have a ton of mixers with sororities, but we're very well known for our open parties (which are fucking crazy). Despite not having a ton of women coming our way regularly, one of our super-beta white knights basically serves as some type of Kuiper belt for sorority girls, so we get a fair number of attractive women coming around relatively often.

One of the funniest things from last semester was where I made a joke about his harem coming, and then 10 minutes later he tries to make me apologize because the girls didn't like it. I basically said "I'm not apologizing, fuck you." He then posted pictures of me passed out from earlier in the year. Most of the fraternity doesn't really care about what he has to say anyway. And he's a beta bitch boy. So he's double fucked.

[ColSpanker]

Missed out on the whole frat thing when I was in college. I went to a gigantic state university, so the frats were only a small part of the overall activity. Seems like they made a come-back the year ANIMAL HOUSE was released.

[LeBeau]

I wrote this up last year, you guys should find some useful info there:

"Better College Girl Game: No living on campus, joining frats, or even being a student "

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-26497.html

[Hans Dix]

(05-23-2014 12:35 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  

Where is Spider? He needs to drop a Frat Game data sheet.

I'll probably drop a data sheet sometime in the next week

[Mongo]

What would you guys consider is the most efficient use of time for an upperclassman? This fall will be my last semester, and I've only recently started taking the red pill and putting more of a priority on girls. I consider time spent on school, my internship (essential for the career I want), and my lifting to be far better spent than gaming chicks. I'd like to add a bit more balance, but the free time I'll have is limited.

[younggamer1992]

Goodlookingloser has really good info about this on his site.

[Classic Cool]

Im going to a 4 year University for the first time this fall. In my early 30s (people guess my age around 24and I still get carded regularly) Im interested to see how things are going to fall into place. I had no problems in community college but there isnt much social interaction or any type of campus events.

[Hans Dix]

So for all you guys in this thread; I'm gonna write up a data sheet tonight.

If anyone has any specific topics they would like to see covered, please let me know.

[Blackliter]

non-frat stuff too if you could... not everyone can be in one. house party vs bar scene.. and the kinds of school clubs to join..

[LaserBear]

Here's a link to the College House Party data sheet I put together a while back.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-35331-...#pid708898

Feels relevant to this thread.

[Giovonny]

(05-08-2014 08:26 PM)Blackliter Wrote:  

I'm shifting to running social game rather than cold-approach style.

Good move.

Warm leads are usually easier to work with than cold leads.

Cold approaching is the hardest way to get laid.

(05-08-2014 08:26 PM)Blackliter Wrote:  

any tips for the past approach phrase would be helpful. mid game is where I lack

Identify her interests and passions.

Ask probing questions about those things..

Get her to talk about them.

You want to build a connection and get her comfortable talking to you and being with you.