[earless]

And the fucked up part is thats not even the longest ive went without sex, i was incel from 20-24(4 full years), finally had sex at 25 with a solid 8/10 31yr old with a beautiful face and great tits. She was husband hunting and i had just graduated with an electrical engineering degree so i guess she thought i was husband material. She genuinely liked me though but it went to shit after we had sex and i made a fool out of my self in bed and became needy. Almost a year later i banged another hot girl 7/10 but she was a major coke head and had one of the gapest pussies ive seen. I could have fisted her if i wanted. My last lay was on march 3rd, 2011 it was my friends birthday and i banged an ugly ass 2/10 obese girl, i didnt even tell my friend i fcuked her i just said I let her give me head. All in all, in the past 14 years since i lost my virginity at age 15(im 29 now) ive had sex a total of 11 times with 9 different girls.

[AntiTrace]

you came to the right place if your trying to fix that.

are you ready to change yourself?

troll radar is going off though.

[earless]

pic of hot 31yr old i banged in 2010. Too bad you cant see her face, it was legit her best feature.

[eradicator]

I would suggest to practice and learn some basic social skills and get good them before you start approaching like crazy. Definitely read bang, day bang(both are books), chateu heartiste(the website) and also start improving yourself physically by training and by travelling and reading and improving your inner game.

There are a million threads on here on how to get started on the path to self improvement. Finding this forum is a good start.

[Hans Dix]

>3 years

God damn bro, I lost my virginity 3 years ago (at 18). My bedpost has some low 30s notch count at this point, but the college social environment definitely helped with that.

How often do you go out? How often do you day approach? Are you following any sort of structured plan (e.g. Roosh 100 approaches)? Definitely get on something like that. You can't just sit at your pad all day and wait for girls to swing by.

[Travesty]

^

Low 30s in your first 3 years ain't bad at all. You should post some college girl game tips sometime and tell how you got success out of the gates in a thread.

[RawGod]

Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Work on self-improvement.
Plenty of guys have had it way worse than you.

[jariel]

My guess is the chick from 2010 was a pro.

[earless]

(05-06-2014 06:26 PM)Hans Dix Wrote:  

>3 years

God damn bro, I lost my virginity 3 years ago (at 18). My bedpost has some low 30s notch count at this point, but the college social environment definitely helped with that.

How often do you go out? How often do you day approach? Are you following any sort of structured plan (e.g. Roosh 100 approaches)? Definitely get on something like that. You can't just sit at your pad all day and wait for girls to swing by.

i go out almost every friday and saturday, I rarely approach though..maybe 1 set per weekend, sometimes 0. Funny thing is sometimes girls will approach me and start a convo but my mind is so fucking polluted that i get nervous and squash any attraction that was present. I know i want to get laid and have a gf(never had one obviously) but sometimes i worry im too far gone. I know the word "incel" get thrown around alot, but i actually am suffering from incel. The mental barriers it puts on you are real and sometimes feel impenetrable.

[earless]

(05-06-2014 06:22 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

you came to the right place if your trying to fix that.

are you ready to change yourself?

troll radar is going off though.

Im trying to change myself, i even moved out of my hometown of Tucson to Boston inorder to "reinvent" myself. Everyone at home knew i was the loser who never brought a girl to any family gatherings. At least here no one knows me, and has no preconceptions about me. That said, ive been here for 2.5yrs and havent been laid but i guess i havent been really been as determined as i need to be. That why i want to get into the game, jsut for motivation really, not sure if i buy all the PUA stuff yet..most of it sounds cheesy tbh.

[Vroom]

9 girls isn't that much less than me, but 11 times in total?

I'd say your problem isn't meeting them, but you're just not fucking them good enough to earn repeat performances. Watch some porn and take notes.

[Alpha Hunter Zero]

@earless-it sounds like you're cockblocking yourself but I don't personally know you so there could be some other factor at play. You mention going out Friday & Saturday. Where exactly is it that you go out? How are you dressed, what is your personality like, how is your physique? These are things we need to know before we can really point you in the right direction.

[soup]

You need to get laid man!

Here's what you do: Buy Roosh's books Bang and Day Bang. Go read the newbie forum. Look up approaching and how do deal with approach anxiety.

Start talking to more girls wherever you go. Just light stuff. Don't even try to get their numbers or anything. Ask them mundane things.. things that you'd ask a guy or girl. This will help you get used to approaching strangers. As for things like directions. Do this a lot. Just to get your feet wet. When you start to get more comfortable with that basic social interaction you can move up to more game focussed conversations.

Stick around the newbie forum for a while, and don't get banned here because you'll probably have a lot of questions.

[runsonmagic]

Pick a program. Get started.

Roosh has one and Good Looking Loser has one. Both are good.

Do online dating while you practice. I've written an article on it. Dates will help wash the desperation off.

Enjoy the process. Process over product.

Be willing to fail and laugh at yourself.

Commit to improving daily, like a gym routine. Stick to it.

Good luck.

[earless]

(05-06-2014 07:17 PM)Alpha Hunter Zero Wrote:  

@earless-it sounds like you're cockblocking yourself but I don't personally know you so there could be some other factor at play. You mention going out Friday & Saturday. Where exactly is it that you go out? How are you dressed, what is your personality like, how is your physique? These are things we need to know before we can really point you in the right direction.

I usually go to bars and lounges, sometimes clubs-the type that double as restaurant by day and club by night. If i go to classier places w/ lots of yuppies i dress like this,


If going to younger places where there might be recent/current college ppl i got more like this.


Overall i say my style is pretty good, even above average for Boston. Im not really afraid to talk to strangers and sometimes am able to entertain groups of girls by myself so i know im not boring. Also I dont have a wingman, but dont really want one. I feel more pressure to do good when i know someone esle is there to witness my rejections. Its better to slip and fall when no ones is watching. One sticking point i have is i absolutely must be drinking to be social, at least a little buzz, thats why day game is a out of the question at this point.

[eradicator]

I don't think the problem is with how you dress but you struggle in social situations. It is a numbers game and you will get better with practice. Also look into yoga classes, spinning classes, art shows, and venues other than friday and saturdays at bars and clubs.

Go to clubs on other nights and try to set up dates on friday and saturdays. fridays and saturdays are some of the worst possible times (i think) for night game at clubs and bars because of the horrid ratios. You might not necessarily have to work harder, but smarter, if that makes sense. Put your self in better situations where you have more of a chance to succeed.

[Checkmat]

For what it's worth, you're already doing better than a lot of guys by simply going out every Friday and Saturday.

There have been stretches of time when I've felt so bad/down on myself that I wouldn't go out at all, ever. Just stayed home in my cave as much as possible.

Chances of meeting girls at home: Zero

Chance of meeting girls out of your house even with zero game: SOMETHING

[jariel]

(05-06-2014 08:15 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  

For what it's worth, you're already doing better than a lot of guys by simply going out every Friday and Saturday.

There have been stretches of time when I've felt so bad/down on myself that I wouldn't go out at all, ever. Just stayed home in my cave as much as possible.

Chances of meeting girls at home: Zero

Chance of meeting girls out of your house even with zero game: SOMETHING

I'm not sure I agree with that, the ROI on Friday and Saturday is crazy low.

Single women, women who don't have a steady man in their life, go out on weekends with friends and other people in their social circles, so even though they are in the club, they are virtually unavailable.

It's better to catch them on nights when they'd go out alone, I've always done well on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Sundays.

[HankRearden]

(05-06-2014 09:59 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(05-06-2014 08:15 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  

For what it's worth, you're already doing better than a lot of guys by simply going out every Friday and Saturday.

There have been stretches of time when I've felt so bad/down on myself that I wouldn't go out at all, ever. Just stayed home in my cave as much as possible.

Chances of meeting girls at home: Zero

Chance of meeting girls out of your house even with zero game: SOMETHING

I'm not sure I agree with that, the ROI on Friday and Saturday is crazy low.

Single women, women who don't have a steady man in their life, go out on weekends with friends and other people in their social circles, so even though they are in the club, they are virtually unavailable.

It's better to catch them on nights when they'd go out alone, I've always done well on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Sundays.

I definitely disagree. How many girls do you know going out solo during the week, who aren't backpackers in Thailand?

[Christian McQueen]

If you want constructive criticism I'll keep it real...

Your style is ok for Boston, but it needs improving.

-The vest combo comes across circa 1998/waiter like.
-The red jacket white t-shirt and jeans is like James Dean outfit in Rebel Without A Cause. Great for a lookalike contest, but not great for current day pulling girls.

If you have actually not gotten laid in 3 years, you need to get drastic.

The first way is to some pussy no matter what. To be honest, there's no way in hell I would go that long. I would get a bombass escort just to clear my head and get some mojo back.

You also said that you approach 0-1 times a night. Get real dude. You're a fly on the wall at clubs, bars and parties and yet you're wondering why you're not getting laid? Come on.

If I don't approach I usually won't get laid and I know what the fuck I'm doing. Sometimes I do get approached or opened, but that doesn't guarantee me the pussy. You have got to put in the work.

Don't expect a magic formula when you're not even doing the basics of approaching.

Lastly, you knocked on PUA products, but going to keep it real once again: What you're doing is clearly NOT working so, you might just want to consider some products and changing your 'game' up drastically.

This may seem harsh, but everything I wrote is to help you snap out of your dry streak. Take it as you will, but if you want actual results then start changing.

[Brodiaga]

Got a couple of weeks of vacation time? A bit of money set aside? Fly to South East Asia and get your rocks off, then come back and keep the game going.

There are multiple threads on this forum about cities like Bangkok, Manila and Jakarta. You're pretty much guaranteed to get laid multiple times in any of these cities if you read these threads and follow the advice.

[CaP7]

If getting laid is your true goal, you need to lower your standards. You probably think too highly of yourself and have overstated your value in your own head. Instead of going for 7's and 8's, you need to realize that you're not good enough to pull that, and go for 5's and 6's. You'll be able to think more clearly, gain confidence, and know what it takes to get to the next level once you destroy a couple of 5's.

What would you rather do...beat off, or bang a 5? 5's can be fun too, as long as they're not huge.

Also, I disagree that a woman in her 30's can be an 8/10 to a man in his 20's. Unless she was 'actress-quality pretty', I can't go along with that. Women in their 30's are only 8's to men 40 and above.

[TheChef]

Here's what'll happen when you start approaching:
- you'll get shot down a lot
- ok to not the greatest looking girls may give you digits
- take said girls on dates
- get good at closing
- keep going out with girls you've been with, plus meet new ones

as your confidence improves, move up to cuter girls and continue the process. This especially helps with experience in the bedroom because it sounds like you need practice, so get some more experience. (and don't watch porn anymore)

And the KEY factor is the habit. Not the results, those come later. Your habit should be: "I will go out a minimum of 3 times a week to meet girls." Then you choose 3 days on your calendar, ideally: Thurs, Fri and Sat. You go out on those nights from, say, 9pm-midnight and be sure to talk to at least 5 girls each night. Keep doing this for weeks, then months, with no breaks. If you have an event on one of those nights, make up for it by going out another time during the week. Remember those nights are for gaming, so don't waste it going out with a bro and just drinking beer and "catching up" the whole night (do that during dinner time instead, to get you in the social mood). After a month, you'll probably look forward to those nights going out to game because it'll just become a regular part of your week.

Then you'll get the success with women you've wanted. Just give it time, and keep the habit going.

[soup]

Approach approach approach and don't complain here until you up your numbers by at least ten times what you are doing right now.

[iknowexactly]

(05-06-2014 10:46 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Got a couple of weeks of vacation time? A bit of money set aside? Fly to South East Asia and get your rocks off, then come back and keep the game going.

There are multiple threads on this forum about cities like Bangkok, Manila and Jakarta. You're pretty much guaranteed to get laid multiple times in any of these cities if you read these threads and follow the advice.

I agree with the Asia idea.

I don't know if your problem was similar to mine, but I've gone years without sex because I don't like getting attached to chicks and then getting blown off as a nice guy; then feeling down and not being in psychological shape to pursue more of them.

But in an environment where you KNOW you can get a new one the next day, and another new one the day after that, your confidence soars and you don't give a shit if she blows you off.

Of course, they sense that, and paradoxically you end up having to be the one blowing off or avoiding THEM.

This changes you whole attitude. The admitted problem is when you come back you don't want to fuck American girls who can sometimes look like men in women's clothing.

But you are young enough you should at least be able to get Asian 7s which are lot easier than white American 7s for a white guy in my opinion.