[cocoballs]

Having some sort of compassion for your fellow man is not blue pill bro. There's a million available bitches, why actively pursue a taken one and have that on your conscience.

The only scenario where I would know a girl is in a relationship and still actively pursue her is if I know her bf and think he's a piece of shit, I.e. he has somehow disrespected me in the past.

[soup]

If I see I a girl with a guy and I want any chance of getting with her, I'll always talk to the guy first. This game 101- get a sense of what's up with them, and also show off your social intelligence to the girl (all the guys with whack game ignore the dude and just start talking to the girl).

Also, chances are that if she's a babe, he/they will know other babes, or could be going to a party etc.

It's all about strategy and appearing as if you come from an abundance mentality.

As a stranger, I always have to remember to get in with the group before try to extract from it.

[True Killa]

Most of the hottest babes are taken anyway. They usually have some provider "bf" in the background, but they will not tell you if they like you.

So just be the kind of guy who girls won't tell you that they have a bf.

[puckerman]

There are two types of men:

1. men who steal girl friends
2. men who have girl friends stolen from them

Which one do you want to be?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Offtopic: a few weeks ago, a member called "the giant" was complaining about being unable to get big and ripped. Now we have "monster" asking a delicate moral question wracked with a sense of guilt. This forum is a gift that keeps on giving

[Beyond Borders]

(07-02-2014 04:36 AM)puckerman Wrote:  

There are two types of men:

1. men who steal girl friends
2. men who have girl friends stolen from them

Which one do you want to be?

I have to disagree.

There are other types as well.

[Felix88]

I've hit on girl in the middle of the bookstore when she was standing right next to the so-called 'boyfriend'. Top that, motherfucker!

To be serious, you shouldn't feel guilty about hitting on girls with boyfriends, like other've said, if she still into her boyfriend she wouldn't be bother talking to you, remember girls are always looking for an upgrade.

[Hotwheels]

(07-02-2014 05:53 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Offtopic: a few weeks ago, a member called "the giant" was complaining about being unable to get big and ripped. Now we have "monster" asking a delicate moral question wracked with a sense of guilt. This forum is a gift that keeps on giving

[jamaicabound]

I don't think we can answer this for you we all have a different set of ethics and morals. I have done it so cant say I havn't but i never understand guys who like take pride in fucking some chick that's taken. If i'm out at a bar and in the middle of a pickup or back at a girls place it probably wouldn't stop me but knowing upfront I probably wouldn't pursue it. Not worth the drama and headaches plus I wouldn't want it done to me so why do it to someone else. I get that the chick is the one that owes the guy loyalty and not me some stranger but none the less I'm a believer in karma and the golden rule so would try to avoid it unless I was like already at her place.


You gotta live your life by your code not this has been done to me so Im gonna do it. If you go down that road you can justify anything. Im gonna fuck over my friends or family or business partner cuz its been do e to me or cuz it could be done to me. Where does it stop.

Lastly whether you agree a dude should be angry at the other dude or not realize there can be consequences. A buddy of mine had a chicks guy catch them chase him down in his car actually crash into him and then lump his face up a little and he cones home looking for sympathy. Im like dude you brought this on yourself. He was like in love and thinking he had a relationship with this taken chick. He seems to always fall for whores with bfs. Funny his next girl hes telling me about how great she is. Then next thing shes away at a cabin with her ex and his family. Its just a front though they not together and not fucking they just havnt told their families yet and wanna keep the front up. She also still lives with him but just because the lease isn't over yet. Bout a month later shes preggo and hes getting a place with her her mom and dogs all together. Wanted to tell him to get a paternity test but the kid lives in denial.

[Cr33pin]

If you don't bang her someone else will. Its not like if you stop talking to her she will just fall back in love with her boyfriend and have a happy go lucky relationship and sex life.

The only time I would really even consider feeling bad about banging a girl is if she was married with kids.... but I'm not into older chicks or milfs that much so I prally have nothing to worry about there..... even so the same rule above still comes in to play in a married with children case.

The above rule always comes into play no matter the situation.

[bojangles]

No you shouldn't unless she's my girl cos you'll cum across my cum in one of her orifices

[Seaver]

(04-24-2014 10:32 AM)monster Wrote:  

As I mentioned in my OP, every girl I dated before always started dating the new bf when me & her were dating. That's what girls do. They are rarely 'single' (ie with no bf) - when they get bored with a relationship they will still stay the relationship but they go on the prowl and start to date others. They never left me until they had a new 'bf' and they pretty much do the same with others from what I've seen.

Which is why its completely blue pill to think that one should feel guilty for hitting on a taken girl. I'm trying to rewire this blue pill logic in me to the reality of the situation.

Some things to consider

1. She might be using you to make him jealous and get what she wants from him, in which case you could end up as the one who got played.

2. If you truly feel guilty about it, why should you "reprogram" yourself based on the actions of the women you've met? To me that always seems like a kind of weak attitude. If someone stole your car stereo, would you become a thief?

3. It isn't necessarily "blue pill" to not want to hit on taken women, you could also look at it as you avoiding women with problems and instead looking for a higher quality one.

Only you can answer the question though, is it right for you morally/ethically?

[monster]

Funny enough I'm at a whole foods yesterday evening and I notice this really cute chick checking me out. So I go up and talk to her, make a comment about the baked goods since we were in the bakery aisle. She was receptive and we bantered for a min or two then I go, "so are you a student at the local university?" because she looked about 21

She goes "no, I'm older. I'm a stay at home mommy"

Now all signs pointed to plow on - she was checking me out, she engaged in some banter for a couple minutes - but when she said that that sort of stopped me in my tracks and we said our goodbyes.

In hindsight, I should have realized maybe she was looking for someone to keep her occupied when her husband was away traveling so much. I should have plowed through.

I don't really know the proper reply to "I'm a stay at home mommy" - what would you recommend? I suppose not knowing a good reply though I should have just changed the subject and kept on.

[CaptainCrazy]

(07-02-2014 09:05 PM)monster Wrote:  

Funny enough I'm at a whole foods yesterday evening and I notice this really cute chick checking me out. So I go up and talk to her, make a comment about the baked goods since we were in the bakery aisle. She was receptive and we bantered for a min or two then I go, "so are you a student at the local university?" because she looked about 21

She goes "no, I'm older. I'm a stay at home mommy"

Now all signs pointed to plow on - she was checking me out, she engaged in some banter for a couple minutes - but when she said that that sort of stopped me in my tracks and we said our goodbyes.

In hindsight, I should have realized maybe she was looking for someone to keep her occupied when her husband was away traveling so much. I should have plowed through.

I don't really know the proper reply to "I'm a stay at home mommy" - what would you recommend? I suppose not knowing a good reply though I should have just changed the subject and kept on.

"I'm a stay at home mommy" means "I want you to bang me like a worthless slut while my husband is away with no commitment or relationship bullshit."

The proper reply is "my place or a cheap motel"? (kids at home)

[Parlay44]

Relationships don't mean anything these days. Girls always have the next guy lined up. Bishes be trapezin.

[BadWolf]

I would say yes you should feel guilty but to yourself and not some other guy. You should be out hitting the 3rd world, searching for THAT girl instead of spending time in a trash heap trying to sort through the filth to find the best rat. You are guilty of laziness and inaction.

[CaptainCrazy]

I would say, "guilt" is a negative emotion (worst of all, in my opinion) that needs to be let go off regardless of what it is about.

[OneIdea]

(07-02-2014 04:36 AM)puckerman Wrote:  

There are two types of men:

1. men who steal girl friends
2. men who have girl friends stolen from them

Which one do you want to be?

There are two types of people:

1. Those who classify people in two types.
2. Those who don't.

lol

[OneIdea]

Speaking seriously on this issue, it's all good and fine to hit on a taken woman, whether married or with a bf. Hitting on someone is harmless.

The issue is, actively (and successfully) pursuing a woman who has kids with her husband/bf. That's essentially breaking up a family for the satisfaction of your cock.

Messing with a family is wrong, period. The woman might be a [insert favorite insult here], and the man might be a [insert favorite insult here]—but messing around with someone's family is messing with kids, and that is wrong, always—no exceptions.

If the woman's relationship with husband/bf is without kids, then go for it, all's fair blah blah blah. But to be the one who steps in and breaks up a family, you gotta be the lowest of the lowest kind of scumbag.

Anyone saying different is the same kind of scumbag.

My 2¢.

[jmourinho]

To quote one of my favorite Roosh posts of all time that is applicable in game, business, and life: Link
"There are only two roles that can exist in any male-female relationship:

The player

The person who gets played

If you’re not sure, you got played."

[Cobra]

I had a somewhat in the face version of this in a bar I posted somewhere.

How about these dudes acting extremely blue
pill? You're a man doing what you want and disarming blue pillers. Think of it as a public service.

"I appreciate that you think I shouldn't talk to your girl but she gave me her number and is talking to me. I didn't ask her to talk to me. And I'll do what I want to do."

Edit : I said a more specific variation of this to the guy's face but if it was some Facebook shit I would ignore it. Men don't resolve conflict through the internet.

[SydneyD]

you should feel guilty for not satisfying your penis

[Ingocnito]

No. Seriously what percentage of girls aren't actually taken, or in their own minds taken bc they have so many prospects lined up anyways on dial-a-dick app?

Virtually 100% of girls that are bangable by most men's standards in the US, are taken in some form, at least these are my presumptions before I even approach.

[Suits]

(04-23-2014 10:54 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

In my case with the married Vegas chick, I woke up and saw pictures around her penthouse condo of a dude with her. I said "Uh who's that?" Then she told me "I'm married, but he's in China right now".

Don't worry. He was probably getting some too.

[Troy Francis]

I certainly wouldn't specifically hit on chicks with bfs, but at the same time what other posters have said is money -- if she's given you her phone number or whatever then it's HER FAULT. She's the one who's taken, and she shouldn't be doing that shit.

Whatever you do don't shag a girl in an LTR and get oneitus for her though - that way is doom.

Aside from that, though, game on. Generally if the boyfriend finds out I'd cut my losses and move on. Life's too short.